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Title: YoSniper's Fangame Contest 2014 *RESULTS*
Post by: YoSniper on February 03, 2014, 09:07:07 pm
I hosted a contest where various game developers get to create fangames within certain rules. The prize at stake was $100.

Judges:
MetaKnightKirby2 VOTED
Axl VOTED
ethinthenougathorn VOTED
Alexthe9995guy VOTED
Natmanoleon VOTED
YoSniper VOTED
Hiddow VOTED

My sincere thanks to everyone who stuck with me to the end here, whether you participated or judged.

Contestants in the Running and projects
1. SirRouven1003 - I Wanna Get Some Money SUBMITTED
2. pieceofcheese87 - I Wanna Escape Reality SUBMITTED
3. klazen108 - I Wanna Restore the Balance SUBMITTED
4. renhoex - I Wanna Be The Gun SUBMITTED
5. Kendom - I Wanna Be The Boss Hunter SUBMITTED
6. zeapawak - I Wanna Find The Sealed Power SUBMITTED
7. Kyir - I Wanna Conceptualize the Omnitruncated Tesseract SUBMITTED
8. GayWizard609 - I Wanna Be The Gaywizard SUBMITTED
9. Storyyeller - I love Time Travel!  SUBMITTED
10. charizardfuego52 - I Wanna Kill The Ochipi 2  SUBMITTED
11. Gutiger - I Wanna Enter Ironically SUBMITTED
12. Mr. Wonderful - I Wanna Wake Up SUBMITTED

Announcement video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pU7-xYYE_is

Rules Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xs4-kMMY-Ss

RESULTS HERE!
Part 1: www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMd-7dah9-A
Part 2: www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcI7u3C3gRk
Part 3: www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Bc9tEwbnGc

SPOILERS ARE FUCKED UP, SO I'LL JUST DISPLAY THIS HERE:
The deadline for submission was June 1st, 2013. Whether your game is complete or incomplete, the final product must conform to all of the following rules in order to qualify:
Serious Rules
1. No double-jump restoring objects like in I Wanna Be The Boshy
2. No lasers that switch on and off like in I Wanna Kill The Guy
3. No Mario references or music
4. No bosses that are mere bullet hell like in I Wanna Be The Barrage
5. No copying rooms from other fangames like in I Wanna Kill The Kamilia
Entertainment Rules
6. Include a pie somewhere in your game
7. Include some form of cinematic in the game
8. Include a specific sound effect (you'll know it when you hear it)

Download the pack of submitted games here:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/39ik76ufxeijhdl

Note: I Wanna Kill The Ochipi 2 was omitted by author's request.
Title: Re: Upcoming Fangame Contest (Judges Wanted)
Post by: infern0man1 on February 03, 2014, 09:29:41 pm
I would like to point out that I do like the spike ridden fangames, except only the ones with at least somewhat original jump ideas and sprites. If both are not present, I'll tolerate it.

Not saying that they're good.
Title: Re: Upcoming Fangame Contest (Judges Wanted)
Post by: MetaKK on February 03, 2014, 09:59:13 pm
I would like to point out that I do like the spike ridden fangames, except only the ones with at least somewhat original jump ideas
That's actually one of the more interesting aspects, people seeing something new in what, on a superficial level, seems like more and more and more of the exact same thing.

It doesn't really matter whether or not a game is "good", the important thing is why it is. And if you get enjoyment out of obscure spike jumps, then that's a plus if you can explain it well enough.

At least that's my attitude when going about judging stuff.
Title: Re: Upcoming Fangame Contest (Judges Wanted)
Post by: shitty name fixed on February 03, 2014, 10:06:03 pm
I'd be glad to be a judge if I can be useful. I like games that people put work into, but I can also enjoy needle games. I'm horrible at them, though.
Title: Re: Upcoming Fangame Contest (Judges Wanted)
Post by: SirRouven on February 04, 2014, 01:03:32 am
A fangame contest sounds really interesting. I guess I would participate as a game developer depending on how the rules for the games look like.
Title: Re: Upcoming Fangame Contest (Judges Wanted)
Post by: Darkwraith Axl on February 04, 2014, 03:06:43 am
I can be a judge. You know my work already man
Title: Re: Upcoming Fangame Contest (Judges Wanted)
Post by: Ellipsis on February 04, 2014, 06:11:53 am
Sounds like a cool idea. Who's putting up the money for the prize?
Also is this only for new fangames rather than ones that have already been made?
I will be following this with interest.
Title: Re: Upcoming Fangame Contest (Judges Wanted)
Post by: YoSniper on February 04, 2014, 08:02:38 am
Sounds like a cool idea. Who's putting up the money for the prize?
Also is this only for new fangames rather than ones that have already been made?
I will be following this with interest.
I plan on ponying up the $100 myself. It's a one-time expense for the year, so it's not like it will bankrupt me.

I'm leaning toward this being for new fangames only, but I do plan on giving like 4 months for people to develop their games, so I might let a few older games slide.
Title: Re: Upcoming Fangame Contest (Judges Wanted)
Post by: Miracle on February 04, 2014, 08:06:55 am
I'd love to be a judge, but, I'm making my own fangame, so I think it would be a little bit unethical of me to both make a fangame, and also enter as a judge for a contest--Regarding fangames.

Off-Topic note: Good to see you're still alive, Y; It's been a lil' while.
Title: Re: Upcoming Fangame Contest (Judges Wanted)
Post by: Sephalos on February 04, 2014, 09:43:57 am
Hopefully this contest would get people to put some effort in their fangames. I would definitly sign up as a developer if and when this happens.
Title: Re: Upcoming Fangame Contest
Post by: YoSniper on February 06, 2014, 06:50:00 pm
Alright, the contest has officially been announced. See OP.
Title: Re: Upcoming Fangame Contest
Post by: ForestFalcon on February 08, 2014, 02:41:40 am
hmm, I have a group of friends that have been working collectively on a fangame using the Mario Bros X engine, would that be eligible for this contest? If so, I could get in touch with them, as I'm a level designer for it.

 If not, then I would like to offer my services as a judge, unless you already have enough people.
Title: Re: Upcoming Fangame Contest
Post by: Fear Smeller on February 08, 2014, 03:48:50 am
This smells interesting. However I don't have a youtube account so I can't participate.
Title: Re: Upcoming Fangame Contest
Post by: YoSniper on February 08, 2014, 01:51:32 pm
hmm, I have a group of friends that have been working collectively on a fangame using the Mario Bros X engine, would that be eligible for this contest? If so, I could get in touch with them, as I'm a level designer for it.

 If not, then I would like to offer my services as a judge, unless you already have enough people.
I don't care what engine is used to develop the fangame, so I don't see any reason why that would be ineligible.

This smells interesting. However I don't have a youtube account so I can't participate.
Creating a YouTube account isn't difficult. If you have a Google account, then you can create one no problem. I'm also fine if you make your video response private.
Title: Re: Upcoming Fangame Contest
Post by: pieceofcheese87 on February 08, 2014, 10:44:46 pm
I'm in as a developper

Never mind, I don't have a webcam nor do I want to show my face on youtube...
that sucks  :-\
Title: Re: Upcoming Fangame Contest
Post by: Fatih on February 08, 2014, 11:29:25 pm
oh yeah i have to show my face

Yosnipes ill get it in tommorow
Title: Re: Upcoming Fangame Contest
Post by: YoSniper on February 09, 2014, 11:38:59 am
I'm in as a developper

Never mind, I don't have a webcam nor do I want to show my face on youtube...
that sucks  :-\
I've been making exceptions for people who were established forum members prior to the contest announcement, because I assume that no one was psychic enough to con me out of $100 in such a manner.

You can be in if you really want to.
Title: Re: Upcoming Fangame Contest
Post by: Ellipsis on February 09, 2014, 09:14:58 pm
I'd be interested as to the rules before working out if I can make a Fangame or not. :P
Title: Re: Upcoming Fangame Contest
Post by: YoSniper on February 09, 2014, 09:32:06 pm
I'd be interested as to the rules before working out if I can make a Fangame or not. :P
Well, you can wait until after the rules have been announced if you so choose. However, I still need 15 people to be definitely in before the end of the month.

I will tell you this much: there will be some serious rules and a few rules just for entertainment purposes, but nothing to restrictive on freedoms.
Title: Re: Upcoming Fangame Contest
Post by: Valkema on February 09, 2014, 10:39:32 pm
Lol you are being really cautious for seemingly very little reason. It's not like someone could make 7 different alts make 7 different fangames and have one of those be better than the other legit ones. Quality > Quantity.
Title: Re: Upcoming Fangame Contest
Post by: YoSniper on February 09, 2014, 10:47:53 pm
Lol you are being really cautious for seemingly very little reason. It's not like someone could make 7 different alts make 7 different fangames and have one of those be better than the other legit ones. Quality > Quantity.
Yeah, you're right. Don't know what I was thinking initially. I'll probably end up not enforcing the video response thing at all.
Title: Re: Upcoming Fangame Contest
Post by: Valkema on February 09, 2014, 10:57:28 pm
Lol you are being really cautious for seemingly very little reason. It's not like someone could make 7 different alts make 7 different fangames and have one of those be better than the other legit ones. Quality > Quantity.
Yeah, you're right. Don't know what I was thinking initially. I'll probably end up not enforcing the video response thing at all.
I mean something like that might be needed when luck is involved however this a game design competition where skill is 100% of the competition. If someone with 7 alts did win then I would imagine the other 6 were just about as good so it's not like they still didn't deserve the win.
Title: Re: Upcoming Fangame Contest
Post by: YoSniper on February 09, 2014, 11:07:46 pm
Alright, video response rule has been withdrawn. Whoever wants to participate can. I just require that the number of fangames submitted matches the number of contestants in the end.
Title: Re: Upcoming Fangame Contest
Post by: renhoex on February 11, 2014, 03:44:09 am
This sounds like something fun to do, I've got an idea I like for a fan game so I'd like to try competing as a developer if this happens to work out.
Title: Re: Upcoming Fangame Contest
Post by: YoSniper on February 11, 2014, 03:51:28 pm
This sounds like something fun to do, I've got an idea I like for a fan game so I'd like to try competing as a developer if this happens to work out.
Alright! I've added you to the list.
Title: Re: Upcoming Fangame Contest
Post by: Fatih on February 12, 2014, 08:13:57 am
DAMN NEED TO DO IT ON THE WEEKEND
Title: Re: Upcoming Fangame Contest
Post by: YoSniper on February 12, 2014, 08:55:28 pm
7 contestants confirmed so far! 8 to go!

Anyone else?
Title: Re: Upcoming Fangame Contest
Post by: TheDarkImperialHD on February 13, 2014, 10:23:41 am
If i can use any Engine and Programm than you can add me pls.
Title: Re: Upcoming Fangame Contest
Post by: YoSniper on February 13, 2014, 01:04:12 pm
If i can use any Engine and Programm than you can add me pls.
Yes, any engine or program is allowed. You may even submit games in progress, however if you do, the games must be re-engineered to fit the rules of the contest, which will be laid out later.

Anyway, I've added you. Thanks for playing!
Title: Re: Upcoming Fangame Contest
Post by: YoSniper on February 15, 2014, 01:06:29 pm
Two more weeks to get in on this contest!

6 more players are needed!

I'm seeing some new fangames cropping up on the board, so maybe some of those guys are interested?
Title: Re: Upcoming Fangame Contest
Post by: Morsa on February 15, 2014, 02:08:49 pm
you must create a new fangame for the contest or you can participate with an already created one?
Title: Re: Upcoming Fangame Contest
Post by: YoSniper on February 15, 2014, 04:00:27 pm
you must create a new fangame for the contest or you can participate with an already created one?
I will allow fangames that are already in progress, however there will be some rules that I will lay out in a couple of weeks when the contest officially starts. So if you are submitting a game already in progress, some things might need to be re-engineered.
Title: Re: Upcoming Fangame Contest
Post by: Morsa on February 15, 2014, 04:27:47 pm
I will allow fangames that are already in progress, however there will be some rules that I will lay out in a couple of weeks when the contest officially starts. So if you are submitting a game already in progress, some things might need to be re-engineered.

I've started developing my fangame (I Wanna Defeat The Pixel) a bit more than a year ago, but I resumed the development in January. Can I join?
Title: Re: Upcoming Fangame Contest
Post by: YoSniper on February 15, 2014, 04:40:32 pm
I've started developing my fangame (I Wanna Defeat The Pixel) a bit more than a year ago, but I resumed the development in January. Can I join?
Absolutely. Added.
Title: Re: Upcoming Fangame Contest
Post by: Fear Smeller on February 16, 2014, 02:07:29 am
I'll give this a whiff.
Title: Re: Upcoming Fangame Contest
Post by: YoSniper on February 18, 2014, 08:35:28 pm
10 more days to go and only 3 more contestants needed!
Title: Re: Upcoming Fangame Contest
Post by: Ft Fxe on February 19, 2014, 02:55:46 pm
I can enter to the contest?
well.. I have a Fangame on Develop (I Wanna be the Creator 2) and well, It's not completed ...
Title: Re: Upcoming Fangame Contest
Post by: YoSniper on February 19, 2014, 05:41:54 pm
I can enter to the contest?
well.. I have a Fangame on Develop (I Wanna be the Creator 2) and well, It's not completed ...
Yes you may enter the contest. I just want to make sure that you want in before I add you to the list.
Title: Re: Upcoming Fangame Contest
Post by: zeapawak on February 19, 2014, 06:43:18 pm
I join
Title: Re: Upcoming Fangame Contest
Post by: Ft Fxe on February 19, 2014, 09:25:10 pm
I can enter to the contest?
well.. I have a Fangame on Develop (I Wanna be the Creator 2) and well, It's not completed ...
Yes you may enter the contest. I just want to make sure that you want in before I add you to the list.
Well, I'm sure of thatxD
Title: Re: Upcoming Fangame Contest
Post by: YoSniper on February 19, 2014, 09:32:31 pm
Well, I'm sure of thatxD
Okay, well that's still not as concrete of an answer as I'd like, but I'm going to assume that yes, you want in. I have added you to the list.
Title: Re: Upcoming Fangame Contest
Post by: Sephalos on February 20, 2014, 04:04:06 am
(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/19c35oidyf35igif/original.gif)
Title: Re: Upcoming Fangame Contest
Post by: Kyir on February 20, 2014, 12:28:02 pm
I'll take the 15th slot.
Title: Re: Upcoming Fangame Contest
Post by: YoSniper on February 20, 2014, 05:25:36 pm
Alright! We have our 15 minimum!

However, if more people wish to join, I am still willing to add to the list until the end of the month.
Title: Re: Upcoming Fangame Contest
Post by: Trigger014 on February 20, 2014, 06:17:46 pm
I want in. I've been thinking about starting another fangame as I wrap up my current project, something more traditional this time.
Title: Re: Upcoming Fangame Contest
Post by: Darkwraith Axl on February 20, 2014, 06:19:40 pm
Oh my god. Oh, my fucking, god. I smell high quality already.
Title: Re: Upcoming Fangame Contest
Post by: ForestFalcon on February 20, 2014, 10:10:08 pm
Wow, you know it's going to be good when even Trigger wants in. And looks like we have enough to guarantee that this is going to happen!
Title: Re: Upcoming Fangame Contest
Post by: YoSniper on February 20, 2014, 10:47:16 pm
Yep. I've got the rules lined up. Will post them either on the 28th or the 1st. I'm looking forward to this.
Title: Re: Upcoming Fangame Contest
Post by: renhoex on February 21, 2014, 05:40:05 am
Just throwing this out there I'll be putting more effort into this then I have been for IWBTGTG.
Providing the rules allow me to do my idea.
Title: Re: Upcoming Fangame Contest
Post by: Sephalos on February 21, 2014, 08:35:31 am
Looks like we have a pretty beefy roster. I can't wait to see what everyone will be coming up with.
Title: Re: Upcoming Fangame Contest
Post by: Fatih on February 21, 2014, 11:32:21 am
So how is this gonna work? are we gonna vote for the best or is it a 10/10 thing?
Title: Re: Upcoming Fangame Contest
Post by: YoSniper on February 21, 2014, 11:57:28 am
I'll explain this again after I set up the wiki, but basically each judge will use his/her own judging system, and pick his/her top five choices. 1st place gets 5 points, 2nd place gets 4 points, and so on. The game with the highest total score wins.
Title: Re: Upcoming Fangame Contest
Post by: LOLGAMMER on February 21, 2014, 12:03:47 pm
It will be hard to choose #1 from these contestants.I cant wait for March to judge fangames!
Oh my god. Oh, my fucking, god. I smell high quality already.
Title: Re: Upcoming Fangame Contest
Post by: YoSniper on February 21, 2014, 12:13:29 pm
It will be hard to choose #1 from these contestants.I cant wait for March to judge fangames!
Oh my god. Oh, my fucking, god. I smell high quality already.
Well, it will be longer than that. The games will be submitted by June 1st, and then the judges will play and rate the games. Hopefully the final scores will be ready by July.
Title: Re: Upcoming Fangame Contest
Post by: telemorph on February 23, 2014, 05:54:09 pm
I would like in.
Title: Re: Upcoming Fangame Contest
Post by: YoSniper on February 23, 2014, 08:01:11 pm
I would like in.
You've got it!
Title: Re: Upcoming Fangame Contest
Post by: AlextheTroller on February 24, 2014, 02:01:23 pm
Hey sniper.. can i pls be a judge for the games  :)
I really like viewing new games and playing them but i like even more when i can be a judge  ;D
Hope you let me in  :-X

If i cant enter to the judges will the fangames be downloadable after the contest?  :-\
Thank you.

-Alex  :kid:
Title: Re: Upcoming Fangame Contest
Post by: YoSniper on February 24, 2014, 05:38:06 pm
Hey sniper.. can i pls be a judge for the games  :)
I really like viewing new games and playing them but i like even more when i can be a judge  ;D
Hope you let me in  :-X

If i cant enter to the judges will the fangames be downloadable after the contest?  :-\
Thank you.

-Alex  :kid:
I have added you as a judge, and yes, I plan on releasing a compilation of all of the submissions after the contest is over.
Title: Re: Upcoming Fangame Contest
Post by: Gaywizard609 on February 25, 2014, 09:57:26 am
How long is there to finish the game? I am currently a bit of a learner when it comes to programming but I'm sure I'd be able to finish the game in a month, so if there is at least a month to create the game then I'd like to take part
Title: Re: Upcoming Fangame Contest
Post by: YoSniper on February 25, 2014, 12:09:23 pm
You will have 3 months to make your game, and if you absolutely must, you can submit an alpha at the end of the contest.

Your game must conform to all of the rules (to be revealed at the end of this week) in order to qualify.

I added you to the list. Last day to register is Feb 28, 2014.
Title: Re: Upcoming Fangame Contest
Post by: Nat on February 25, 2014, 03:33:10 pm
I have a project in mind, but I doubt I'd be able to fully finish it in time.
So it would be nice if I could be a judge, if possible.
I am really excited to see what others can come up with.
Title: Re: Upcoming Fangame Contest
Post by: YoSniper on February 25, 2014, 08:08:20 pm
Wow. I think I might get the entire forum involved.

Also, I'm not sure that everyone from the Fangame Community is active here. I remember ethinthenougathorn and TheMarios327 registered on the other forum and I don't know if they have accounts here.

If you know anyone on the list of judges or contestants who is not active on this forum, please contact them and let them know that this is still moving forward.
Title: Re: Upcoming Fangame Contest
Post by: infern0man1 on February 25, 2014, 08:37:00 pm
Wow. I think I might get the entire forum involved.

Also, I'm not sure that everyone from the Fangame Community is active here. I remember ethinthenougathorn and TheMarios327 registered on the other forum and I don't know if they have accounts here.

If you know anyone on the list of judges or contestants who is not active on this forum, please contact them and let them know that this is still moving forward.

I have them on Skype. I let them know. :D
Title: Re: Upcoming Fangame Contest
Post by: Karn on February 26, 2014, 02:40:15 am
I'm from the other forum as well, but I made an account here a few days ago (when that one stopped working). Just letting you know that I know this is still happening. :)
Title: Re: Upcoming Fangame Contest
Post by: YoSniper on February 28, 2014, 05:47:00 pm
JUDGES AND CONTESTANTS ARE LOCKED IN! SEE OP!
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: Sephalos on February 28, 2014, 05:51:29 pm
The deadline for submission is June 1st, 2013.
Well shit, I'm late by 1 year.

All kidding aside, I'm liking these entertainment rules.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: infern0man1 on February 28, 2014, 05:57:36 pm
I think a good rule to add is 'No rooms full of just spikes'

Dont actually know if that's said or not in the rules video, I don't have earbuds with me right now.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: YoSniper on February 28, 2014, 06:02:42 pm
I think a good rule to add is 'No rooms full of just spikes'

Dont actually know if that's said or not in the rules video, I don't have earbuds with me right now.
I feel I've stressed the "originality" point as much as I can, but given that a few judges enjoy more of the spiky games, I won't outright ban it. However, the designers had better appeal to more than one judge if they hope to have a chance of winning.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: Lemon on February 28, 2014, 06:20:45 pm
sound effect so loud D:
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: Zero-G on February 28, 2014, 06:22:31 pm
its the worst soundfile i ever heard,cant believe that it is in the entertainment rules.i rather have everything you banned(dont get me wrong i understand that the point of it is to make some original and creative) but that soundfile is really terrible.
i would rather delete the fangame after i heard something like that.my opinion.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: ethinthenougathorn on February 28, 2014, 06:31:04 pm
alright, im in this forum now too! im looking forward to many good games :)
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: zeapawak on February 28, 2014, 07:27:55 pm
do you count doki doki panic as a mario game?
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: YoSniper on February 28, 2014, 07:27:58 pm
its the worst soundfile i ever heard,cant believe that it is in the entertainment rules.i rather have everything you banned(dont get me wrong i understand that the point of it is to make some original and creative) but that soundfile is really terrible.
i would rather delete the fangame after i heard something like that.my opinion.
If you feel it necessary, you can tone down the volume on that sound effect. I was just interested to see what people do with it.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: Kyir on February 28, 2014, 07:54:50 pm
I strenuously object to no jump refreshers.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: YoSniper on February 28, 2014, 08:11:17 pm
I strenuously object to no jump refreshers.
You've got three months. I'm sure you can come up with other ideas. Maybe objects that manipulate physics in other ways? I'm just sick of the Boshy jumps.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: Kyir on February 28, 2014, 08:26:15 pm
I just think it's a sort of weird thing to single out? There are lots of super generic things that have been used over and over that are still fun.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: LOLGAMMER on March 01, 2014, 03:15:56 am
Why can't they just congregate here? It's going to be awfully messy to handle this on two separate forums, not just for the people judging and developing but for those spectating.



I agree.+1

But either way,I have just send my request to join your website.
its the worst soundfile i ever heard,cant believe that it is in the entertainment rules.i rather have everything you banned(dont get me wrong i understand that the point of it is to make some original and creative) but that soundfile is really terrible.
i would rather delete the fangame after i heard something like that.my opinion.

What?Are you gonna delete a fangame for only 4 seconds of an annoying sound?
It reminds me motorcycle sound,though.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: HAEGOE on March 01, 2014, 04:33:35 am
Why can't they just congregate here? It's going to be awfully messy to handle this on two separate forums, not just for the people judging and developing but for those spectating.



I agree.+1

But either way,I have just send my request to join your website.

Maybe because there were two community sites before this contest happened(though other community is suspended and I don't know what's happening for now), and here and there has a different people who has different view about fangames.
It may be my simple stereotypes or even bias, but it looks like people here prefer gimmicks while there are (relatively) OK with spike-filled fields and avoid-every-cherries-until-the-music-is-over games.

6. Include a pie somewhere in your game
I think I have an idea about this rule, but as a judge I don't think I should tell this..
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: Darkwraith Axl on March 01, 2014, 04:52:07 am
I already asked  for access. Also.

4. No bosses that are mere bullet hell like in I Wanna Be The Barrage
5. No copying rooms from other fangames like in I Wanna Kill The Kamilia

I just love you YoSniper. I just love you no homo in the gayest possible way.

Also, that pie rule makes me think about something. I someone pull it the way I'm thinking and say something regarding that "It's another kind of Pie", I will love it. FOREVER.

Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: ethinthenougathorn on March 01, 2014, 12:41:15 pm
i wish all participants best luck and good ideas, i hope for many good games!!  :)
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: Nat on March 01, 2014, 07:01:45 pm
Okay I asked for access.
do you count doki doki panic as a mario game?
I would, because of the whole Mario 2 USA thing and the fact that Doki Doki Panic was originally going to be a Mario game anyway.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: YoSniper on March 01, 2014, 07:55:10 pm
The system I have set up is that if more than half of the judges believe that a game has violated a rule, then it will be disqualified. However, if only one or two judges think a game has violated a rule somewhere, then the game can still be in the running.

I personally would count Doki Doki Panic as a Mario game, assuming you were using tile sets or characters from that game, but perhaps not every judge will.

I encourage contestants to tread lightly, though.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: shitty name fixed on March 01, 2014, 07:56:35 pm
I know of several great pie ideas that will make me love people if they actually think of doing them.

So will y'all fangamers be sticking around here now that fangamecommunity is you know...
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: Sephalos on March 01, 2014, 08:00:27 pm
Why is everyone complaining about the no mario rule? It's a simple rule and there is no need to find work arounds. There are plenty of games out there to reference.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: YoSniper on March 01, 2014, 08:06:52 pm
Why is everyone complaining about the no mario rule? It's a simple rule and there is no need to find work arounds. There are plenty of games out there to reference.

I reiterate: Contestants have THREE WHOLE MONTHS to develop their game. Even if it takes two weeks to come up with some non-Mario related ideas, and some ways around the use of a double-jump restore, you all have 10 weeks to create the game itself.

Am I really not being fair here?
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: telemorph on March 01, 2014, 08:19:24 pm
Why is everyone complaining about the no mario rule? It's a simple rule and there is no need to find work arounds. There are plenty of games out there to reference.

I reiterate: Contestants have THREE WHOLE MONTHS to develop their game. Even if it takes two weeks to come up with some non-Mario related ideas, and some ways around the use of a double-jump restore, you all have 10 weeks to create the game itself.

Am I really not being fair here?
You are being perfectly fair. The only thing that bothered me about it is that I was making a Mario level (It's a post-apocolyptic version of Super Mario Bros 1) and now I have to redo everything :(
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: YoSniper on March 01, 2014, 08:23:52 pm
You are being perfectly fair. The only thing that bothered me about it is that I was making a Mario level (It's a post-apocolyptic version of Super Mario Bros 1) and now I have to redo everything :(
Well, this is why I allowed works already in progress, but didn't release the rules video until yesterday. This is my way of saying "you don't have to start from scratch" without giving anyone too huge of an advantage ;-)

Thanks for understanding.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: AlextheTroller on March 02, 2014, 06:46:54 am
I wish GOOD LUCK to every person who entered this contest and let your imagination blow away :D
Hope every judge will enjoy your games!

Also where can the judges find the games that have been submitted to the contest?  ( oops didn't read the tread first sorry :P )
Thank You!

-Alex  :kid:
 
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: TheDarkImperialHD on March 02, 2014, 09:05:12 am
No Mario reference ?
oh ... I already use super mario world vines,does it count to Mario reference ?
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: YoSniper on March 02, 2014, 11:47:33 am
No Mario reference ?
oh ... I already use super mario world vines,does it count to Mario reference ?
I might let that one slide. I'm definitely saying no to Mario characters (including enemies), question mark blocks, and mushrooms. Other elements can probably work out fine. Again, tread lightly.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: shitty name fixed on March 02, 2014, 12:13:57 pm
In my opinion, doki doki panic should be allowed since it was originally made as a prototype for it's own game but then made into Mario 2.

But at the same time, it's gonna be hard to reference DDP without referencing mario 2
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Post by: Nat on March 02, 2014, 01:35:48 pm
Also where can the judges find the games that have been submitted to the contest?  ( oops didn't read the tread first sorry :P )
Thank You!
Check your messages.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: YoSniper on March 04, 2014, 05:20:30 pm
I'd like to request a sticky just so people don't forget about this before the deadline of June 1st.

At least for the meantime.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: renhoex on March 05, 2014, 10:07:17 am
Well if anyone cares about what I'm making I'll occasionally be posting a collection of screen captures I take everyday on a Blog I started for my fangames.
http://renhoex.tumblr.com/
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: Fangame_Critic on March 08, 2014, 11:25:42 pm
Hello everyone,

I first and foremost want to say that I think it is very generous of you to host a fangame contest that includes a $100 dollar prize. You have given some of these game makers something to look forward to. This is why I almost feel bad listing my concerns over this contest. Please note, before you read, that these are listed to try to improve the quality of your contest, not undermine it.

1.) The judges. Really? Give me one good, well-respected fangame any of these judges have made. This may be a direct shot at the judges themselves, but I just don't see anyone on that panel being "qualified" to judge a fangame. Sure, a few people that are unknown or moderately experienced is fine, but the entire panel? Please.

2.) The rules. I understand that you want to make your contest unique and interesting in its own regard, but no jump refreshers, no laser-like switches, and no bullet hell? The no Mario and no copying other rooms is fine, albeit odd for the only-no-Mario. But let's back up a second. No jump refreshers like THE ONES IN BOSHY? There are hundreds of fangames that utilize jump refreshers, and Boshy is one of many. In fact, some fangames utilize those jump refreshers way better than Boshy does, but you use Boshy as the example? I sincerely hope this was more of just a "random comparison" than anything else. Now onto the actual concern - NO JUMP REFRESHERS? I really don't see a justification for this, nor do I see any reason to limit one's creative ability to incorporate this mechanic into a fangame. If they use the jump refresh mechanic poorly, then their game will suck. Simple as that. No laser-like switches? I'm assuming this applies to every type of switch, and I really hope this isn't true. There are a lot of interesting and unique ways to incorporate switches into a fangame, but this (yet again) puts a major limit on one's creativity. No bullet hell - I can almost see a justification for this one, but one or two bullet hell-like mechanics in the game really can freshen the game up, or give it a distinct uniqueness. I believe a lot of these restrictions are poor decisions, but like I said, this is your contest - you do what you want!

3.) Entertainment - I actually think some of these are funny. No complains there, although that SFX sucks.

The biggest concern is the testers - you might not be able to turn back now, but I don't think the judging is going to be as successful as you like it. I give you major respect for holding a contest like this, and you can take this criticism how you like it, but please give these some thought. Do not take it as an attack - unless you're a judge, lol.

I wish every game maker good luck with this contest. I really hope most of these fangames are somewhat decent, although I'm not sure how much you can do with the current ruleset. I know a few of these fangame makers will definitely produce playable content - Seph, Trigger, Cheese, Lemon, Kyir, and Klazen.

Good luck,
-The Fangame Critic
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: YoSniper on March 08, 2014, 11:58:06 pm
Hello Fangame Critic, and welcome to the forum.

I would like to address your concerns for the contest. I take no offense to your points, and I wish to offer my own counterpoints.

1. The judges. The way I see it, a judge need only be able to give an opinion about a game in order to qualify. My goal here was to get a decent number of judges with varying opinions -- from those who prefer the more needle-type games riddled with spikes, to those like myself who are looking for more new gimmicks and don't enjoy the "cliches" so much. I have never developed a First Person platformer of any sort myself, but I still give my opinion on Portal. Does that make my opinion any less valid? I say no.

2. The rules Basically, I implemented these rules so that I would have much less of a chance of playing the same game with a bunch of re-skins several times over, which is what playing the vast majority of fangames feels like lately. Just take a look at infern0man's thread of "crappy spike" fangames. These are the kinds of games I want developers to get away from. I want people to expand their minds, implement new gimmicks, and not rely so much on the gimmicks of older fangames. The double-jump restore from Boshy in my view has become cliche, and nobody seems to do much with it other than create more intricate jumps than normal. For example, Purdy Adventures.

All of the rules I put in my contest (at least the "serious" rules) are a result of some gimmick I have seen in many fangames on this forum and others that feel overplayed, and that I don't particularly enjoy. This is meant to force developers to think outside the box and come up with new gimmicks. If developers are creative, this shouldn't be a problem.

3. Testers Given that developers have three whole months to make their games, I expect that they will not only test their games themselves, but have other people test the games for them as well. The judges on my panel are not the only people who will play the game, and I encourage people to get as much feedback as they can throughout the course of their projects, regardless of whether they are partaking in the contest or not, and even after the contest ends.

Besides, MetaKK is a great example of an experienced game tester, and I'm sure he'll be able to come up with many things for developers to fix.


To sum up, my goal is not to limit, but to encourage innovation, and I figured a $100 prize was enough of a motivator to kickstart that. Depending on how this contest goes, I may host more contests like this in the future. But hey, if you feel that you want to see games that meet different criteria, feel free to host your own contest down the road, or create your own engine, or your own tutorials. I'm not one to tell you what a good fangame is; I can only express my opinion.

Thanks for understanding.

- YoSniper
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: Fangame_Critic on March 09, 2014, 12:15:51 am
Hello Fangame Critic, and welcome to the forum.

I would like to address your concerns for the contest. I take no offense to your points, and I wish to offer my own counterpoints.

1. The judges. The way I see it, a judge need only be able to give an opinion about a game in order to qualify. My goal here was to get a decent number of judges with varying opinions -- from those who prefer the more needle-type games riddled with spikes, to those like myself who are looking for more new gimmicks and don't enjoy the "cliches" so much. I have never developed a First Person platformer of any sort myself, but I still give my opinion on Portal. Does that make my opinion any less valid? I say no.

2. The rules Basically, I implemented these rules so that I would have much less of a chance of playing the same game with a bunch of re-skins several times over, which is what playing the vast majority of fangames feels like lately. Just take a look at infern0man's thread of "crappy spike" fangames. These are the kinds of games I want developers to get away from. I want people to expand their minds, implement new gimmicks, and not rely so much on the gimmicks of older fangames. The double-jump restore from Boshy in my view has become cliche, and nobody seems to do much with it other than create more intricate jumps than normal. For example, Purdy Adventures.

All of the rules I put in my contest (at least the "serious" rules) are a result of some gimmick I have seen in many fangames on this forum and others that feel overplayed, and that I don't particularly enjoy. This is meant to force developers to think outside the box and come up with new gimmicks. If developers are creative, this shouldn't be a problem.

3. Testers Given that developers have three whole months to make their games, I expect that they will not only test their games themselves, but have other people test the games for them as well. The judges on my panel are not the only people who will play the game, and I encourage people to get as much feedback as they can throughout the course of their projects, regardless of whether they are partaking in the contest or not, and even after the contest ends.

Besides, MetaKK is a great example of an experienced game tester, and I'm sure he'll be able to come up with many things for developers to fix.


To sum up, my goal is not to limit, but to encourage innovation, and I figured a $100 prize was enough of a motivator to kickstart that. Depending on how this contest goes, I may host more contests like this in the future. But hey, if you feel that you want to see games that meet different criteria, feel free to host your own contest down the road, or create your own engine, or your own tutorials. I'm not one to tell you what a good fangame is; I can only express my opinion.

Thanks for understanding.

- YoSniper

Hi Yosniper, I'm glad you read the post. Allow me to respond to some of your rebuttals:

1.) The difference between giving an opinion and being a judge is, well one opinion matters and one doesn't. If you're a judge, I hope that you have at least decent knowledge, if not extensive knowledge in what you are judging. If you are anyone else, go ahead! Give your opinion! But it's the judge's the matters - they are completely separate things. But I understand where you are coming from, and respect that.

2.) I don't believe that jump refreshers are an overused mechanic. Yes, I think they are sometimes used poorly, however, there are some extremely creative ways to implement this into a game. I completely understand that you want to encourage creativity, but I fear you're harming it. I really do. I can only hope this is wrong, and there are new unique mechanics that evolve from this contest!

3.) I think you may have misread what I typed, or maybe I put it in a fashion that wasn't clear. Regardless, by "testers" I meant judges, which reiterates my first point. I can only hope the makers will test their own game, for their own good. But this was a non-issue.

I wish you the best of luck with your contest, I look forward to seeing the products!

Now, onto a less respectable post...

Nothing you've said there strikes me as helpful; in fact most of it comes across completely as undermining both Yosniper and his contest.

1) The judges. I'm sorry, I forgot that in order to judge the quality of something you have to have made something of equal or better quality. All those music reviewers and art critics in the newspapers are certainly prize winners in their respective fields.... right? Honestly, I don't think you understand what it means to be a good critic. Fangames are made for the public to play, for any one to play. Their demographic is not 'fangame makers', it's 'fangame players'. So therefore, why should the panel only (or mostly) be open to people who create them? You don't need to be a fangame maker to play fangames, and neither do you to judge them or their quality. As a consumer, I say their opinion is as valid or 'qualified' as anyone else's. You can have a perfectly respectable view on something regardless of your skill in creating that thing. Insulting the entire panel by calling them unknown or of 'moderate experience' (somehow suggesting that moderate = bad going by the second line of the judges section) isn't helping at all, it's not just undermining Yosnipers judgement, it's undermining the collective fanbase who have come together to support him in this project.

2) The rules. Boshy is one of the most well known fangames and one that it is likely everyone has heard of, it was clearly for comparison. I don't see how attacking Yosniper over the comparison in any way helps to better the contest. Really, it's just a pointless slam.

Yosniper isn't limiting people' creativity, he's encouraging it. Things like jump refreshers and on/off laser switches have become crutches for many aspiring fangame designing to just plug into their game instead of trying to devise new, more unique gimmicks. While they do have decent uses and I agree, there are probably unique ways in which they could still be used, all that's happening here is Yosniper is forcing people to be more creative in their use of gimmicks and I don't see a thing wrong with it.

The type switch he is referring to is the one that alternates a stationary beam of electricity on and off. That by no means discounts any other type of laser beam.

Again the bullet hell bosses that have been shown are just the static sprites that sit in a room while the player avoids cherries. As far as my understanding goes, this rule doesn't an bullet hell, it bans bosses like the one smentioned, that only use bullet hell and are other wise just avoiding segments, rather than actual programmed enemies. The statement "but one or two bullet hell-like mechanics in the game really can freshen the game up, or give it a distinct uniqueness" is entirely subjective as some people find that they give a game 'uniqueness' and others don't. I fail to see how you can present this as fact.

3) Enterainment. You had no complaints.

To reiterate, you don't need to have made a good fangame to be, as you put it, 'qualified' to judge one. Fangames are made for anyone to play and therefore anyone's opinion is valid. I know what I like to hear in music but I haven't the foggiest on how to actually write a composition that is skillful. Not having talent in a field does not mean you aren't capable of seeing talent in that field.

You come off as snarky and pretentious, with little respect for replying to others in a civilized manner. As such, you will receive a reply of equal value.

1.) Music reviewers? Art critics? I'm sorry, I don't think you quite understand English, and don't take that personally if it isn't your first language. A 'judge' is, by definition, a person able or qualified to give an opinion on something. A critic and a reviewer do not need to be qualified. Got a review for a new game that came out? Got some criticism for a new movie? Type away, blog away, do whatever you want! But when you're a judge, you better be well-versed in the subject. In this particular case, you do not need to be a game maker, but because makers are being grades on their games, it should be strongly encouraged. Please do not generalize the entire 'fangame community' as being undermined by my post. You completely blew it out of proportion to try to justify your case. I only wanted to voice honest concerns, but you seem to attack quite fast. Regardless - a judge better be well-versed, unlike a critic or reviewer. Need an example? Try any TV show with judges - they ALWAYS use judges that have some in-depth knowledge of the area, whatever it may be.

2.) I understand full well what he meant through the laser switches. This wasn't as big of a concern as the jump refreshers. You state that he is trying to encourage creativity, which is correct. His goal is to not restrict creativity, obviously. But when you limit certain aspects of a fangame that can be used extremely well by a seasoned game maker, this may unintentionally limit their game in the process. This is what I fear, and I can only hope that this is unbased and wrong. I fail to see how you thought I really believed YoSniper was trying to punish game makers through his rules.

Overall, yes. If you are a judge, you better be well-versed. Re-read #1 if you're confused. In addition, please re-read your posts before hitting that 'post' button - I believe you may have tried to justify an idea that went completely sour. But, as stated, you gave me a snarky reply - you'll receive the same.

I wish you the best of luck in this contest, if you are a part of it in any manner.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: renhoex on March 09, 2014, 06:44:59 am
I gotta ask how is not including any Mario references giving Nintendo the finger?
Technically we're doing what they want us to do, not use Nintendo copyrighted games. If anything they're still giving us the finger.
And this seems like something that benefits you tubers more than us, And for that matter why just Mario isn't anything Nintendo related breaking their copyright law?

I'm not going to include a Mario reference in my game (at least not for this contest) but I've just been thinking long and hard on this rule you've made.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: YoSniper on March 09, 2014, 01:30:26 pm
I gotta ask how is not including any Mario references giving Nintendo the finger?
Technically we're doing what they want us to do, not use Nintendo copyrighted games. If anything they're still giving us the finger.
And this seems like something that benefits you tubers more than us, And for that matter why just Mario isn't anything Nintendo related breaking their copyright law?

I'm not going to include a Mario reference in my game (at least not for this contest) but I've just been thinking long and hard on this rule you've made.
I suppose that I had a little residual angst when I said that. I was still annoyed that Nintendo was copyright claiming video game music from Mario, preventing me and others from monetizing videos.

However, I feel that the other reason behind that rule is still valid. Mario is one of the most frequently referenced games in IWBTG games (when references apply) and I want people to try harder. I mean, Mario is referenced not once, but TWICE in Boshy alone (for example.)

1.) The difference between giving an opinion and being a judge is, well one opinion matters and one doesn't. If you're a judge, I hope that you have at least decent knowledge, if not extensive knowledge in what you are judging. If you are anyone else, go ahead! Give your opinion! But it's the judge's the matters - they are completely separate things. But I understand where you are coming from, and respect that.

2.) I don't believe that jump refreshers are an overused mechanic. Yes, I think they are sometimes used poorly, however, there are some extremely creative ways to implement this into a game. I completely understand that you want to encourage creativity, but I fear you're harming it. I really do. I can only hope this is wrong, and there are new unique mechanics that evolve from this contest!

3.) I think you may have misread what I typed, or maybe I put it in a fashion that wasn't clear. Regardless, by "testers" I meant judges, which reiterates my first point. I can only hope the makers will test their own game, for their own good. But this was a non-issue.

I wish you the best of luck with your contest, I look forward to seeing the products!
1. Yes, that is the definition of a judge for the contest. What you may not be aware of is that after I announced the contest back in February, I left the door open for anyone to become a judge. The only limitation was that someone who was going to compete in the contest could not judge. Yes, I did invite several people to be judges, just so I could get a wider range of opinions, but I did not deny anyone the opportunity.

2. The double-jump restore mechanic might not be that much of a recurring theme NOW, but I feel that that is because it does not come readily with the engine, and many people are just too lazy to program such an object. Restoring the player's double-jump is not outright barred in this contest; just the mechanic of doing so with a collectible object. One could conceivably program triple-jump or infinite-jump if they so desired.

Best regards,

YoSniper
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: Valkema on March 09, 2014, 04:36:41 pm
Honestly any complaints about the rules are completely invalid. He's basically saying, I've got $100 and I'm going to give it to someone who can make a fangame with these requirements and does so better than everyone else who wants it. What you're saying is basically like saying a contest to create a game with the rule "It has to be a Turn Based RPG" sucks because it limits creativity. He doesn't really need a reason behind his rules, it's his goddamn money. The only thing bad rules do is turn people away from joining the contest and that doesn't seem to be an issue here.

Now onto the judges. Quite literally anyone can be a judge for a contest. ANYONE! Some contest runners like to have judges with more experience because that can affect their opinion of something but that doesn't change the fact that this is an Opinionated task. Opinions by definition are not wrong.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: Paragus on March 10, 2014, 10:18:40 am
I have to agree with the sentiment on the judges.

As someone who plays and streams literally every new fangame to come out, I can't think of a single good game collectively that has been produced from anyone on the judging panel.  Without singling anyone out, some of these people have produced some of the biggest fangame turds I've encountered.  It's like having someone who writes for Hustler Magazine being appointed do critique master works of literature.   Don't get me wrong, it's your contest so you can do it any way you'd like, but with a panel of randomly selected people who have no grasp on how to create a quality game, I think it may be lacking in legitimacy.

Now the contestants on the other hand, I recognize many of them who happen to have previous fangames under their belt, some of which are among my favorite fangames I've ever played.   Maybe you should reconsider your stance on letting the contestants be judges and just say that nobody is allowed to vote for their own game?  I also don't think you should be placing artificial restriction on the makers, let them sink or swim through their own creativity or stupidity.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: Valkema on March 10, 2014, 10:37:43 am
I have to agree with the sentiment on the judges.

As someone who plays and streams literally every new fangame to come out, I can't think of a single good game collectively that has been produced from anyone on the judging panel.  Without singling anyone out, some of these people have produced some of the biggest fangame turds I've encountered.  It's like having someone who writes for Hustler Magazine being appointed do critique master works of literature.   Don't get me wrong, it's your contest so you can do it any way you'd like, but with a panel of randomly selected people who have no grasp on how to create a quality game, I think it may be lacking in legitimacy.

Now the contestants on the other hand, I recognize many of them who happen to have previous fangames under their belt, some of which are among my favorite fangames I've ever played.   Maybe you should reconsider your stance on letting the contestants be judges and just say that nobody is allowed to vote for their own game?  I also don't think you should be placing artificial restriction on the makers, let them sink or swim through their own creativity or stupidity.

You don't have to make a good game to judge whether or not a game is good. That fucking argument got old 4 fucking years ago.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: ethinthenougathorn on March 10, 2014, 11:50:13 am
I have to agree with the sentiment on the judges.

As someone who plays and streams literally every new fangame to come out, I can't think of a single good game collectively that has been produced from anyone on the judging panel.  Without singling anyone out, some of these people have produced some of the biggest fangame turds I've encountered.  It's like having someone who writes for Hustler Magazine being appointed do critique master works of literature.   Don't get me wrong, it's your contest so you can do it any way you'd like, but with a panel of randomly selected people who have no grasp on how to create a quality game, I think it may be lacking in legitimacy.

Now the contestants on the other hand, I recognize many of them who happen to have previous fangames under their belt, some of which are among my favorite fangames I've ever played.   Maybe you should reconsider your stance on letting the contestants be judges and just say that nobody is allowed to vote for their own game?  I also don't think you should be placing artificial restriction on the makers, let them sink or swim through their own creativity or stupidity.

i know that in the past i made some really shit games, but i never claimed them to be good and quite all of them were made in the first days after i got game maker. still, by that i could see how much work creating new sprites and physics is. also, i play but mostly watch iwannas for many years (before you made any stream or video) and i can assure you   that my taste for good fangames is not much different from any other`s taste.
im not saying that because i want to stay a judge at all cost but i just think rude to all the other judges to accuse them of having no clue about good fangames. im confident that all judges have a clue so the best game will win, and i`m glad about  YoSniper`s decision, since judging games will be a great experience.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: Fangame_Critic on March 10, 2014, 03:51:19 pm
I have to agree with the sentiment on the judges.

As someone who plays and streams literally every new fangame to come out, I can't think of a single good game collectively that has been produced from anyone on the judging panel.  Without singling anyone out, some of these people have produced some of the biggest fangame turds I've encountered.  It's like having someone who writes for Hustler Magazine being appointed do critique master works of literature.   Don't get me wrong, it's your contest so you can do it any way you'd like, but with a panel of randomly selected people who have no grasp on how to create a quality game, I think it may be lacking in legitimacy.

Now the contestants on the other hand, I recognize many of them who happen to have previous fangames under their belt, some of which are among my favorite fangames I've ever played.   Maybe you should reconsider your stance on letting the contestants be judges and just say that nobody is allowed to vote for their own game?  I also don't think you should be placing artificial restriction on the makers, let them sink or swim through their own creativity or stupidity.

You don't have to make a good game to judge whether or not a game is good. That fucking argument got old 4 fucking years ago.

Yes, because I really want someone who is either A.) Inexperienced at fangames or B.) Not produced any quality content to judge the quality of these fangames that are being made. Makes little to no sense, but YoSniper opened the judges' panel up to anyone, so this is the reason why certain judges (see: All of them) are not incredibly experienced or well-known when it comes to playing OR creating fangames. It's not just a matter of "make a good fangame, you can be a judge." I'm fairly certain that there's a few individuals that are very experienced that have not actually produced content (or rarely produce content) that have good enough taste in fangames to really judge fairly.

All in all, it's great that he's hosting the contest and everyone is getting a chance to make some fangames - it really livens up the community. But the way in which these judges were picked is poor, that's that. Everyone is jumping on the tiny bits of this argument that don't really make much sense, only arguing the tiny bit of "you don't NEED to make a fangame to be a judge." Its clear that judges need should have in-depth knowledge and experience.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: YoSniper on March 10, 2014, 04:26:42 pm
Well, the end argument is that it's my contest and I'll have judge anyone whom I want.

But to address any concerns, judges will have to justify their picks for 1st - 5th place with reasoning, which I don't see anyone having an issue with. For example, I won't accept someone's vote for a certain character merely because that person is their friend. I expect all of my judges to list pros and cons for each game based on their own opinions.

If I were to only allow "experienced" fangame players to be judges, that would induce much more bias as opposed to letting anyone who pleases to judge. What if someone who has never played a fangame decides to watch this? Would they agree whole-heartedly with someone who has been playing these fangames for 5 years or more?

Again, you're free to disagree however you want, but it's not going to change my mind about this being a fair set-up.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: Darkwraith Axl on March 10, 2014, 05:01:27 pm
I wish I was here earlier to get into the shitstorm, but it seems its already over.

But to address any concerns, judges will have to justify their picks for 1st - 5th place with reasoning, which I don't see anyone having an issue with. For example, I won't accept someone's vote for a certain character merely because that person is their friend. I expect all of my judges to list pros and cons for each game based on their own opinions.

Somehow I don't really expect a judge to give a friendship vote. And somehow, I actually think well-known gamemakers will have it tougher because of the expectations.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: Valkema on March 10, 2014, 07:57:13 pm
Yes, because I really want someone who is either A.) Inexperienced at fangames or B.) Not produced any quality content to judge the quality of these fangames that are being made. Makes little to no sense, but YoSniper opened the judges' panel up to anyone, so this is the reason why certain judges (see: All of them) are not incredibly experienced or well-known when it comes to playing OR creating fangames. It's not just a matter of "make a good fangame, you can be a judge." I'm fairly certain that there's a few individuals that are very experienced that have not actually produced content (or rarely produce content) that have good enough taste in fangames to really judge fairly.

All in all, it's great that he's hosting the contest and everyone is getting a chance to make some fangames - it really livens up the community. But the way in which these judges were picked is poor, that's that. Everyone is jumping on the tiny bits of this argument that don't really make much sense, only arguing the tiny bit of "you don't NEED to make a fangame to be a judge." Its clear that judges need should have in-depth knowledge and experience.
I understand Yosniper has basically ended the argument. This however is a response to someone with an incredibly ill informed opinion about something.

I can personally guarantee to you that making a good game is harder than deciding whether or not a game is good. I can also personally guarantee to you that I could explain in fine detail how the games made by the people who YOU think are qualified to judge this contest are(in my opinion) trash. I am going to tell you straight up, this is a FANGAME contest. The game that these creators are FANS of is IWBTG. If they have PLAYED IWBTG then they are QUALIFIED to judge a contest of it's FANGAMES! If someone reveals that they haven't played IWBTG they you are right they aren't credible enough to judge this contest but considering we are on a forum for IWBTG I'd say that's unlikely.

Now quit acting like you are some high and mighty fangame connoisseur because it just makes you look like a pretentious dumbass.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: Fangame_Critic on March 10, 2014, 09:33:58 pm
Yes, because I really want someone who is either A.) Inexperienced at fangames or B.) Not produced any quality content to judge the quality of these fangames that are being made. Makes little to no sense, but YoSniper opened the judges' panel up to anyone, so this is the reason why certain judges (see: All of them) are not incredibly experienced or well-known when it comes to playing OR creating fangames. It's not just a matter of "make a good fangame, you can be a judge." I'm fairly certain that there's a few individuals that are very experienced that have not actually produced content (or rarely produce content) that have good enough taste in fangames to really judge fairly.

All in all, it's great that he's hosting the contest and everyone is getting a chance to make some fangames - it really livens up the community. But the way in which these judges were picked is poor, that's that. Everyone is jumping on the tiny bits of this argument that don't really make much sense, only arguing the tiny bit of "you don't NEED to make a fangame to be a judge." Its clear that judges need should have in-depth knowledge and experience.
I understand Yosniper has basically ended the argument. This however is a response to someone with an incredibly ill informed opinion about something.

I can personally guarantee to you that making a good game is harder than deciding whether or not a game is good. I can also personally guarantee to you that I could explain in fine detail how the games made by the people who YOU think are qualified to judge this contest are(in my opinion) trash. I am going to tell you straight up, this is a FANGAME contest. The game that these creators are FANS of is IWBTG. If they have PLAYED IWBTG then they are QUALIFIED to judge a contest of it's FANGAMES! If someone reveals that they haven't played IWBTG they you are right they aren't credible enough to judge this contest but considering we are on a forum for IWBTG I'd say that's unlikely.

Now quit acting like you are some high and mighty fangame connoisseur because it just makes you look like a pretentious dumbass.

Your argument is so bad, it hurt to read. In fact, I had to take a break halfway through before I got to the end of your post. Let's break this apart piece by piece, shall we?

"I can personally guarantee to you that making a good game is harder than deciding whether or not a game is good."

I never said anything of the sort, and yes of course making a good game is much harder than deciding whether or not its good. That's common sense, bud.

"I can also personally guarantee to you that I could explain in fine detail how the games made by the people who YOU think are qualified to judge this contest are(in my opinion) trash."

Really now? Sephalos and Cheese are trash? Please, inform me more. I must be a complete dunce for recognizing talent in a terrible fangame community.

"I am going to tell you straight up, this is a FANGAME contest. The game that these creators are FANS of is IWBTG."

Congrats, you can read.

"If they have PLAYED IWBTG then they are QUALIFIED to judge a contest of it's FANGAMES!"

Using this logic, if I really like eating pizza, then I can be a judge for a pizza contest that offers a large cash prize? No. I can become a critic or reviewer, but not a judge. A judge is qualified. Just because you experienced an event doesn't make you qualified to judge it. I can swim in a pool and then judge synchronized swimming? No.

"If someone reveals that they haven't played IWBTG they you are right they aren't credible enough to judge this contest but considering we are on a forum for IWBTG I'd say that's unlikely."

If ANYONE on that panel hasn't played IWBTG, I'd be shocked as well. But this isn't about IWBTG, its about the various fangames that surround it. These fangames are so different from the original game its amazing. But playing IWBTG, as stated, should not qualify you AT ALL for judging others' games. This does NOT imply that you need to create a "good" fangame to be qualified - you could simply be a well-respected and/or experienced IWBTG fangame player.

"Now quit acting like you are some high and mighty fangame connoisseur because it just makes you look like a pretentious dumbass."

Yes, because that's the best way to really let the forums know that you argued some well thought-out points is to insult the other side of the argument with some really terrible insults. You gave your argument little thought and went directly on the attack. Grow up. I'm glad you can "personally guarantee" me all sorts of things. Now personally guarantee me that you won't post on these forums, to avoid the terrible quality of your posts.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: infern0man1 on March 10, 2014, 09:58:27 pm
Omg shut up about this. We all have our opinions about things. There isnt a point in arguing over it. Yes, some of the judges (including me) haven't really made a decent fangame. It doesnt take away from the fact that we are still able to judge. And it is Yosniper's contest, he can do whatever the hell he wants with it.

So please. It's alright to judge the way we do things. Just leave them be, and let them do what they want.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: Valkema on March 10, 2014, 10:26:09 pm
Edit: Fuck it I've been here long enough to know where this goes. I'm just going to stop derailing here.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: Darkwraith Axl on March 11, 2014, 04:19:51 am
Edit: Fuck it I've been here long enough to know where this goes. I'm just going to stop derailing here.

It was a good post tho. Sadly I didn't save it.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: AlextheTroller on March 11, 2014, 10:48:43 am
Omg shut up about this. We all have our opinions about things. There isnt a point in arguing over it. Yes, some of the judges (including me) haven't really made a decent fangame. It doesnt take away from the fact that we are still able to judge. And it is Yosniper's contest, he can do whatever the hell he wants with it.

So please. It's alright to judge the way we do things. Just leave them be, and let them do what they want.

Agreed.. it dosent matter if the player didnt make a game he cant be on the contest, if someone experienced and knows what a fangame is then there's a reason to be a judge so pls.. dont fight for this shite!  9_9
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: Evan20000 on March 11, 2014, 04:05:07 pm
I'm ending this now. If civil conversation is not possible, infractions will be handed out if this persists beyond this post.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: YoSniper on March 21, 2014, 04:27:56 pm
Hey all contestants!

I encourage all of you to post progress reports on your games every now and again. I want you all to get as much feedback as you can during these three months (one of which is almost over.)

I am happy to host this contest, and I hope you all are having fun making your games!
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: renhoex on March 21, 2014, 11:06:58 pm
Well I did say I was going to show progress on my tumblr (http://24.media.tumblr.com/fdcbba663385baf733b6df5e205a26ad/tumblr_n2oebuOErp1tuvgvso2_1280.png)
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: subfusc_moose on March 26, 2014, 05:16:10 pm
To be honest, I think the biggest concern is that some of the judges aren't skilled enough to beat the games they are given to judge. How much time are they given to play all 20 games? Is the game being too hard for someone a bad thing? Is a judge even eligible to judge, if (s)he can't beat the game? I bet some of the judges aren't even aware of the thousands of fangames out there, only the ones posted on this forum, of which most are fairly easy. I hope I'm wrong with all this, but seriously, it would be a bummer if a game gets minus points for being harder than your average fangame. After all, these games are meant to be hard, but enjoyable at the same time.

I hope you make the judges write at least a short review of each game, and a larger one for the top 3 or so. At least that much should be expected for everyone to be able to do.

In the end, this is your contest and you keep it the way you want it to be. The amount of negative feedback given by the die hard guy fans is understandable, but after all, this isn't a "professional" contest even though there is money involved. I think this will end up being a good lesson showing what shouldn't have been done and what could be improved in the future. Maybe the next contest(s) will end up pleasing the vast majority of guy game fans.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: YoSniper on March 26, 2014, 05:38:51 pm
To be honest, I think the biggest concern is that some of the judges aren't skilled enough to beat the games they are given to judge. How much time are they given to play all 20 games? Is the game being too hard for someone a bad thing? Is a judge even eligible to judge, if (s)he can't beat the game? I bet some of the judges aren't even aware of the thousands of fangames out there, only the ones posted on this forum, of which most are fairly easy. I hope I'm wrong with all this, but seriously, it would be a bummer if a game gets minus points for being harder than your average fangame. After all, these games are meant to be hard, but enjoyable at the same time.

I hope you make the judges write at least a short review of each game, and a larger one for the top 3 or so. At least that much should be expected for everyone to be able to do.

In the end, this is your contest and you keep it the way you want it to be. The amount of negative feedback given by the die hard guy fans is understandable, but after all, this isn't a "professional" contest even though there is money involved. I think this will end up being a good lesson showing what shouldn't have been done and what could be improved in the future. Maybe the next contest(s) will end up pleasing the vast majority of guy game fans.
The deadline for submission is June 1st, but the time for all of the judges to play and rate all of the games after that date may take as long as another month. While I would like all of the judges to be done within a few weeks, I don't want to rush it so much that people simply give up on games without giving them a fair chance.

I have set up a wiki for all judges to congregate, so we can all voice our concerns if we think we don't have enough time, for example. We will also be discussing the games at length there, so there should at least be a general consensus for any given game (i.e. differing opinions shouldn't be too drastically different for any particular game.)

And yes, depending on how well this contest goes, I will host future contests. Rules will evolve, and the panel of judges will change.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: Kellion on March 29, 2014, 09:22:57 am
FUN, is coming :)

(http://i.imgur.com/K6GV918.png)

I wanna be the Boss Hunter 0.2.2 underway

Criticism... Please  ;D

Thread: http://kayin.pyoko.org/iwbtg/forums/index.php?topic=18501.0 (http://kayin.pyoko.org/iwbtg/forums/index.php?topic=18501.0)
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: Storyyeller on March 31, 2014, 11:58:47 am
Hey all contestants!

I encourage all of you to post progress reports on your games every now and again. I want you all to get as much feedback as you can during these three months (one of which is almost over.)

Progress? I've started thinking about the design for my game.


Edit: Wait, you have to register in advance to compete? So much for that.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: YoSniper on March 31, 2014, 12:25:19 pm
Hey all contestants!

I encourage all of you to post progress reports on your games every now and again. I want you all to get as much feedback as you can during these three months (one of which is almost over.)

Progress? I've started thinking about the design for my game.


Edit: Wait, you have to register in advance to compete? So much for that.
Yeah, that's how I did it this year. If this contest goes well, I won't require pre-registration in the future.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: Storyyeller on March 31, 2014, 01:47:26 pm
Could we still compete if we don't care about the prize?
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: YoSniper on March 31, 2014, 02:14:08 pm
Could we still compete if we don't care about the prize?
You know what? Sure. I had one guy drop out anyway, and come to think of it, there really isn't a good reason to bar submissions.

I'll count you in.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: Storyyeller on March 31, 2014, 03:21:36 pm
Thanks!
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: YoSniper on April 08, 2014, 07:45:57 pm
EVERYONE, please tell me what the names of your projects are for the contest.

I have updated the OP with game names that I assume will be submitted for the contest, but please correct me if I am mistaken.

Also, I have only seen bits from three or four people regarding progress on development (or so I assume.) This makes me worry that not many submissions will be in by the deadline. We are already halfway into this contest, so please get cracking!
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: telemorph on April 08, 2014, 07:51:01 pm
The Kids New Adventure
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: MetaKK on April 08, 2014, 08:20:25 pm
Rouven's is actually I Wanna Get Some Money (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpSdYXv1D94)

Also Sephalos uploaded a video by the name of Return to Guy Castle (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGKK-mG3RlM) I don't know if that's just the name of the level though.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: YoSniper on April 08, 2014, 08:26:31 pm
Rouven's is actually I Wanna Get Some Money (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpSdYXv1D94)

Also Sephalos uploaded a video by the name of Return to Guy Castle (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGKK-mG3RlM) I don't know if that's just the name of the level though.
How fitting. I'll update the OP with that.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: renhoex on April 08, 2014, 08:50:50 pm
I just checked the OP, there's a bit of confusion here.
I'm actually making a new game completely from scratch (kinda) and I'm going to call it, I wanna be the gun.

And unfortunately I can't work on IWBTGTG anymore because I have no motivation for it anymore so there will be one last update before I cancel it.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: shitty name fixed on April 08, 2014, 11:10:03 pm
To be honest, I think the biggest concern is that some of the judges aren't skilled enough to beat the games they are given to judge. How much time are they given to play all 20 games? Is the game being too hard for someone a bad thing? Is a judge even eligible to judge, if (s)he can't beat the game? I bet some of the judges aren't even aware of the thousands of fangames out there, only the ones posted on this forum, of which most are fairly easy. I hope I'm wrong with all this, but seriously, it would be a bummer if a game gets minus points for being harder than your average fangame. After all, these games are meant to be hard, but enjoyable at the same time.

I hope you make the judges write at least a short review of each game, and a larger one for the top 3 or so. At least that much should be expected for everyone to be able to do.

In the end, this is your contest and you keep it the way you want it to be. The amount of negative feedback given by the die hard guy fans is understandable, but after all, this isn't a "professional" contest even though there is money involved. I think this will end up being a good lesson showing what shouldn't have been done and what could be improved in the future. Maybe the next contest(s) will end up pleasing the vast majority of guy game fans.
In my opinion, if you're bad at fangames, why would you want to play and judge them?

Unless someone posts a Kamilia-difficult game, I and I'm guessing all the other judges should be able to beat it.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: LOLGAMMER on April 09, 2014, 01:21:24 am
I wouldn't accept another Kamilia difficulty game if there wouldn't be Crysis 7 graphics.That'll balance it.
On a side note,I can't even beat I Wanna Kill The Kamilia 2.Not because the needle part,its because of bosses.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: pieceofcheese87 on April 09, 2014, 11:11:23 am
My fangame's name is I wanna escape reality
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: SirRouven on April 09, 2014, 11:26:34 am
EVERYONE, please tell me what the names of your projects are for the contest.

I am sorry, I didn´t see that post.
Anyways, since DetaKK already posted the name of my game and linked a video to the title screen, I guess I don´t need to mention the name of my game.

To be honest I didn´t really make much more than the title screen but I had to learn for a lot of tests and I couldn´t really start working.
But that shouldn´t be a problem. I have the whole game already in my mind. I just need to create it. The two remaining months are long enough for me.

Also: Are Testers allowed? I would like some friends to play through the game before I release it.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: YoSniper on April 09, 2014, 11:27:48 am
My fangame's name is I wanna escape reality
Oh, so you ARE participating then?
I had assumed you weren't based on your comment back in February, but I will add you to the list if you wish.

Quote from: SirRouven
Also: Are Testers allowed? I would like some friends to play through the game before I release it.
Absolutely,  testers are allowed and encouraged.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: Morsa on April 09, 2014, 05:25:11 pm
Hey YoSniper, I'm working in a new fangame for the contest, discard "I Wanna Defeat The Pixel", because that fangame doesn't meets with some rules, and I don't want to change it. I preferred to make a new fangame.

My fangame for the contest is call "The Legend of Kid". :3
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: pieceofcheese87 on April 09, 2014, 06:21:56 pm
Quote
Oh, so you ARE participating then?
I had assumed you weren't based on your comment back in February, but I will add you to the list if you wish.

I am pieceofcheese, already on the list
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: YoSniper on April 09, 2014, 06:45:28 pm
Quote
Oh, so you ARE participating then?
I had assumed you weren't based on your comment back in February, but I will add you to the list if you wish.

I am pieceofcheese, already on the list
Oh. Ok. Never made that connection. D'oh!
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: Kyir on April 11, 2014, 09:21:34 pm
My game's probably going to be called I Wanna Conceptualize the Omnitruncated Tesseract, but it might change depending on whether or not I can think of something even better to hear people trying to say on their streams. (I see you have Descend into Hell up there already for me but it wouldn't fit the rules anyway)
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: zeapawak on April 11, 2014, 11:06:06 pm
my game is called "I wanna find the sealed power"
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: Fatih on April 12, 2014, 08:39:11 am
*meanwhile*...

*secretly makes game called "I wanna be the judge"*
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: YoSniper on April 13, 2014, 05:05:57 pm
Alright, so I've got responses from 13 out of 20 competitors on what projects are going to be happening, and I'm happy to see that certain projects that were in progress but obviously were going to violate certain rules are not going to be submitted. It's good to see that seemingly everyone is taking this contest seriously enough to produce quality content.

I look forward to June 1st. In the meantime, if you do not have a project name next to your name on the list (or a placeholder for that matter,) please speak up so I know what to expect.

Thanks again to all judges and contestants!
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: pieceofcheese87 on April 13, 2014, 08:29:14 pm
if anyone wants to test what I have of my game so far:
: show
http://www.mediafire.com/download/16vrfpr45u4v1rv/Stuff.exe
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: subfusc_moose on April 14, 2014, 07:21:28 am
http://gyazo.com/9124d4ed37a91417c5ad9cd2a0defcd5

So, I'm guessing this is the end of what you have right now? It would be nice to have a warp there just in case you went this path first, just so you don't have to replay the beginning again to try the other path, which is finished.

It's a really nice and chill game with good difficulty curve/balance so far, really looking forward to rest of the game!
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: SirRouven on April 14, 2014, 11:30:02 am
It seems like the developers are allowed to post their progress here so I just leave this here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTWWNkd-Fs4
Just don´t mind the blue cars. I made a little mistake in the code there.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: Astfgl on April 16, 2014, 05:22:31 pm
Quick bug i found:
(http://i.imgur.com/jBclqon.png?1)

Basically, you jump under the bumper while it is extended and if you wait until it returns you are stuck.
Also, doing this makes this jump trivial because you can just jump from that position to the yellow bumper without any hassle, as long as the bumper is still raised.

I did not finish the game (stopped where you choose your path), so i'll get back to here if i find anything else. So far i liked the fact that you alternate between spike centric rooms and gimmick rooms.

The one thing i did not like was that there were places i could get killed by going out of the room boundaries, this sucks imho (for instance, at the beginning of the game, i immediately went left when i saw the arrow pointing right and was disappointed that the only thing that happened was that i died crossing the room boundary, putting a funny trap or a wall would be good.)

Anyway, just my two cents, keep up the good job.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: Storyyeller on April 17, 2014, 12:17:23 pm
EVERYONE, please tell me what the names of your projects are for the contest.

I have updated the OP with game names that I assume will be submitted for the contest, but please correct me if I am mistaken.

Also, I have only seen bits from three or four people regarding progress on development (or so I assume.) This makes me worry that not many submissions will be in by the deadline. We are already halfway into this contest, so please get cracking!

My planned title is "I Hate Time Travel".  I haven't actually started yet due to being busy with other stuff, but I hope to have a lot more time in two weeks once school ends.

Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: Gaywizard609 on April 21, 2014, 06:01:01 am
EVERYONE, please tell me what the names of your projects are for the contest.

I have updated the OP with game names that I assume will be submitted for the contest, but please correct me if I am mistaken.

Also, I have only seen bits from three or four people regarding progress on development (or so I assume.) This makes me worry that not many submissions will be in by the deadline. We are already halfway into this contest, so please get cracking!

I can't decide the name yet but use I wanna be the gaywizard as a placeholder
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: Kellion on April 23, 2014, 05:31:14 pm
Hey folks! I've been working hard on my game and I deliver a pack of graphics straight to your monitor!

(http://i.imgur.com/SvIYDx9.png)

I redid a lot of stuff... Can you please review my work?

Boss Hunter: http://kayin.pyoko.org/iwbtg/forums/index.php?topic=18501.0
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *IT'S ON!!!*
Post by: Fatih on April 24, 2014, 06:36:47 am
Kendom: You should make sure that you correct everything to the best of ability since the deadline isn't here anytime soon.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *FINAL MONTH!!!*
Post by: YoSniper on April 30, 2014, 01:11:25 pm
ATTENTION CONTESTANTS:

You have one month remaining. Don't rush your projects, but this month will go by rather quickly. So keep up the good work!
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *FINAL MONTH!!!*
Post by: Uncle Ochipi on May 01, 2014, 08:08:50 pm
can i submit a game in this day?
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *FINAL MONTH!!!*
Post by: YoSniper on May 02, 2014, 06:56:37 am
can i submit a game in this day?


Sure, if you want. But remember that is has to conform to all of the rules in the OP.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *FINAL MONTH!!!*
Post by: Uncle Ochipi on May 02, 2014, 02:20:51 pm
the game are here, the original sequel of I WANNA KILL THE OCHIPI, it have 2 bosses, (1 normal and 1 secret) and one act (ochipi secret lab)

http://kayin.pyoko.org/iwbtg/forums/index.php?topic=19444.msg452685#msg452685

Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *FINAL MONTH!!!*
Post by: Uncle Ochipi on May 02, 2014, 03:08:52 pm
the game are here, the original sequel of I WANNA KILL THE OCHIPI, it have 2 bosses, (1 normal and 1 secret) and one act (ochipi secret lab)

http://kayin.pyoko.org/iwbtg/forums/index.php?topic=19444.msg452685#msg452685



* I SUBMITTED 2 VERSIONS, ONE WITH INTRO AND ONE WITHIN INTRO
pd: my youtube account is charizardfuego52
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *FINAL MONTH!!!*
Post by: YoSniper on May 02, 2014, 03:40:09 pm
the game are here, the original sequel of I WANNA KILL THE OCHIPI, it have 2 bosses, (1 normal and 1 secret) and one act (ochipi secret lab)

http://kayin.pyoko.org/iwbtg/forums/index.php?topic=19444.msg452685#msg452685



* I SUBMITTED 2 VERSIONS, ONE WITH INTRO AND ONE WITHIN INTRO
pd: my youtube account is charizardfuego52
Don't stop working on it yet. The deadline is June 1st, not tomorrow.

And if your game doesn't include a pie or that sound effect, it won't qualify anyway. Take your time and make sure that you've covered all of the rules.

I'll add you to the list, but don't relax just yet.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *FINAL MONTH!!!*
Post by: Uncle Ochipi on May 06, 2014, 07:34:07 am
I submitted 5 versions in 5 days...Speedy
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *FINAL MONTH!!!*
Post by: Uncle Ochipi on May 06, 2014, 08:05:19 pm
an declaration: AWITA boss is not a bullet hell, is only a big quantity of bullets. you can avoid him with a bit of difficulty...is my declaration for future events... if you want i can put a minor quantity of bullets

-charizardfuego52
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *FINAL MONTH!!!*
Post by: YoSniper on May 07, 2014, 09:00:31 am
It has been brought to my attention that the sound effect I want you all to use might cause Windows 8 crashes.

If it becomes necessary, I will allow you to alter the sound effect (make it 16-bit, get rid of higher harmonics, whatever,) as long as it mildly resembles the original sound.

I apologize for the inconvenience.  Fuck Windows 8.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *FINAL MONTH!!!*
Post by: renhoex on May 07, 2014, 09:21:17 am
Are we allowed to shorten the sound effect?
it just seems unnecessary to have it repeat 3 times each time it's played.
And also because the way I want to use it would make it the most annoying thing in the entire world.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *FINAL MONTH!!!*
Post by: YoSniper on May 07, 2014, 09:36:30 am
Are we allowed to shorten the sound effect?
it just seems unnecessary to have it repeat 3 times each time it's played.
And also because the way I want to use it would make it the most annoying thing in the entire world.
Sure, I'll allow it. Based on what I've seen so far, it appears that I have imposed too many restrictions for this contest, anyway.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *FINAL MONTH!!!*
Post by: Storyyeller on May 07, 2014, 12:30:14 pm
I was planning to just throw the sound and pie in at the end of the game once you've beaten it. That is acceptable, right?
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *FINAL MONTH!!!*
Post by: YoSniper on May 07, 2014, 01:24:15 pm
I was planning to just throw the sound and pie in at the end of the game once you've beaten it. That is acceptable, right?
Seems unimaginative to me personally, but yes, that's allowed.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *FINAL MONTH!!!*
Post by: Uncle Ochipi on May 07, 2014, 07:16:19 pm
It has been brought to my attention that the sound effect I want you all to use might cause Windows 8 crashes.

If it becomes necessary, I will allow you to alter the sound effect (make it 16-bit, get rid of higher harmonics, whatever,) as long as it mildly resembles the original sound.

I apologize for the inconvenience.  Fuck Windows 8.
don´t worry, i will fix it ( only if i don't fixed after )
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *FINAL MONTH!!!*
Post by: telemorph on May 11, 2014, 05:24:48 pm
Am I allowed to drop out of this contest?
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *FINAL MONTH!!!*
Post by: Storyyeller on May 11, 2014, 06:30:22 pm
It's not like anyone can force you to submit a game.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *FINAL MONTH!!!*
Post by: YoSniper on May 11, 2014, 09:01:01 pm
Am I allowed to drop out of this contest?

You are allowed. A few people have already. Given the trend, it's unlikely that I will host another fangame contest in the future, but I will at least see this one through.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *FINAL MONTH!!!*
Post by: telemorph on May 11, 2014, 09:21:18 pm
Am I allowed to drop out of this contest?

You are allowed. A few people have already. Given the trend, it's unlikely that I will host another fangame contest in the future, but I will at least see this one through.
I've decided to drop out. It's very stressful making a game in such a small amount of time and I'll never finish it in time.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *FINAL MONTH!!!*
Post by: Kyir on May 11, 2014, 10:11:16 pm
I see this has become an endurance contest. I plan on being the last one standing by the 1st and winning by default.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *FINAL MONTH!!!*
Post by: MetaKK on May 11, 2014, 10:15:23 pm
Well that's a shame. I was really excited for Cabadoth's entry.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *FINAL MONTH!!!*
Post by: Storyyeller on May 12, 2014, 02:58:39 am
In my case, simply getting everything set up took much longer than I expected, leaving me with only a couple days to actually work on the game. I'm still optimistic that I can finish it, but I may be forced to leave it with placeholder art everywhere and no sound effects.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *FINAL MONTH!!!*
Post by: YoSniper on May 12, 2014, 07:43:23 am
In my case, simply getting everything set up took much longer than I expected, leaving me with only a couple days to actually work on the game. I'm still optimistic that I can finish it, but I may be forced to leave it with placeholder art everywhere and sound effects.
Remember, alphas are acceptable.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *FINAL MONTH!!!*
Post by: Kellion on May 12, 2014, 06:56:11 pm
Nope! Sorry! Going to stick around with a game 5% done. There's "meat" in it!  :P I ain't givin up  ;D Good luck for ye games!  :)

Edit: Now I've noticed. Yosniper! Your contest isn't supposed to end last year right??? "Insert Kappa here..."
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *FINAL MONTH!!!*
Post by: Storyyeller on May 13, 2014, 09:25:51 pm
Progress update:

I've now got most of the game mechanics and level elements working. The first level still isn't quite finished, but with most of the stuff already programmed, things should go a lot faster in the future. So far, it's taken me around 3 days to get all the libraries and makefiles and stuff set up and 4 days actually working on the game.

Of course I discovered that I'll have a week after coming back from vacation rather than 2 days like I thought, so I don't have to work on it quite so frantically. I guess I'll spend the rest of the evening before I leave packing or trying to practice German.

P.S. I apparently can't draw a good looking robot sprite to save my life.

P.P.S. I just noticed that we're required to have "some form of cinematic" too now. Oh crap.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *FINAL MONTH!!!*
Post by: shitty name fixed on May 13, 2014, 10:16:22 pm
It has been brought to my attention that the sound effect I want you all to use might cause Windows 8 crashes.

If it becomes necessary, I will allow you to alter the sound effect (make it 16-bit, get rid of higher harmonics, whatever,) as long as it mildly resembles the original sound.

I apologize for the inconvenience.  Fuck Windows 8.
Yeah, fuck windows 8
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *FINAL MONTH!!!*
Post by: Kellion on May 14, 2014, 02:13:54 pm
It has been brought to my attention that the sound effect I want you all to use might cause Windows 8 crashes.

If it becomes necessary, I will allow you to alter the sound effect (make it 16-bit, get rid of higher harmonics, whatever,) as long as it mildly resembles the original sound.

I apologize for the inconvenience.  Fuck Windows 8.
Yeah, fuck windows 8

There is a fix of some sort. Which you have to replace the regular play sound command with a script. I use it in my game: http://kayin.pyoko.org/iwbtg/forums/index.php?topic=17384.0
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *FINAL MONTH!!!*
Post by: Kyir on May 17, 2014, 07:04:26 am
Finally finished and submitted my game. It ended up being much more of a slog at the end than I had hoped, but such is life.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *FINAL MONTH!!!*
Post by: Kellion on May 17, 2014, 12:31:10 pm
Finally finished and submitted my game. It ended up being much more of a slog at the end than I had hoped, but such is life.

Huh... where? Can I see? :P
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *FINAL MONTH!!!*
Post by: Kyir on May 17, 2014, 02:27:22 pm
Finally finished and submitted my game. It ended up being much more of a slog at the end than I had hoped, but such is life.

Huh... where? Can I see? :P

Evidently not.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *FINAL MONTH!!!*
Post by: YoSniper on May 17, 2014, 03:49:54 pm
If Kyir posts the link to his submission, then you can see it. Otherwise, you'll have to wait until June 1st after all submissions are in.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *FINAL MONTH!!!*
Post by: YoSniper on May 21, 2014, 10:00:12 pm
ATTENTION ALL JUDGES AND CONTESTANTS!!!

I am no longer able to access the Fangame Community forum, and can only post here. For what reason, I don't know (apparently others can still access the forum, but I always get a 522 error saying connection timed out.)

I will no longer be posting on that forum for this reason. So if there are any participants of the contest exclusive to that forum, please make them aware of this situation.

I will only accept submissions for the contest as a PM on this forum, or by e-mail at yosniper@gmail.com.

Please only send me links to download games, and not full game files themselves. Gmail has limitations on attachment size.

Thanks for understanding.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *FINAL MONTH!!!*
Post by: pieceofcheese87 on May 21, 2014, 11:15:27 pm
the website has changed, it's now http://www.iwannacommunity.com/forum/index.php?wwwRedirect
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *FINAL MONTH!!!*
Post by: YoSniper on May 22, 2014, 06:58:01 am
the website has changed, it's now http://www.iwannacommunity.com/forum/index.php?wwwRedirect
Why don't people tell me these things?
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *FINAL MONTH!!!*
Post by: [redacted] on May 22, 2014, 07:16:14 am
the website has changed, it's now http://www.iwannacommunity.com/forum/index.php?wwwRedirect
Why don't people tell me these things?
I thought you knew, its been like this for quite awhile and I believe I saw you browsing the site after the change.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *FINAL MONTH!!!*
Post by: SirRouven on May 22, 2014, 11:35:59 am
YoSniper, do we have to send you a link to the game via PM on the forums or somewhere else?
Also, are we allowed to submit our games on 1st June?
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *FINAL MONTH!!!*
Post by: YoSniper on May 22, 2014, 12:12:57 pm
YoSniper, do we have to send you a link to the game via PM on the forums or somewhere else?
Also, are we allowed to submit our games on 1st June?
You can PM me on either forum, or you can e-mail it to me. You may submit on June 1st but that is the LAST DAY I will accept it.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *FINAL WEEK!!!*
Post by: Storyyeller on May 24, 2014, 02:19:01 pm
It's ok if we only use the first third of the sound effect, right?
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *FINAL WEEK!!!*
Post by: YoSniper on May 24, 2014, 03:33:03 pm
It's ok if we only use the first third of the sound effect, right?
Yes. If I can recognize it, then you'll be fine.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *FINAL WEEK!!!*
Post by: Storyyeller on May 27, 2014, 06:32:44 pm
Man, level design is tough. I've been stuck for the last three days designing level 3 and I'm still less than a third of the way done.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *FINAL WEEK!!!*
Post by: Entertainer on May 27, 2014, 07:15:33 pm
I just saw this.

Too bad I didn't see earlier or I would have made another fangame that nobody likes.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *FINAL WEEK!!!*
Post by: Kellion on May 28, 2014, 03:56:54 am
Level designing is a pain... And making bosses, at least for me is time consuming as hell! If all goes well, I should post the new version tomorrow, good luck everyone! :)
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *FINAL WEEK!!!*
Post by: YoSniper on May 28, 2014, 10:41:25 pm
Okay, so I have 6 submissions so far. I'm hoping that number turns into 19 within the next 3 days, but I won't hold my breath.

See OP for details.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *FINAL WEEK!!!*
Post by: SirRouven on May 29, 2014, 03:39:32 am
I am finishing the last things I want to be done in my game, today.
You can expect to receive a message, tomorrow.

Also, would you ask the maker of the game where you can hear that special sound effect if you cannot find it?
I used it in a way some people probably will never hear it.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *FINAL WEEK!!!*
Post by: YoSniper on May 29, 2014, 07:35:34 am
I am finishing the last things I want to be done in my game, today.
You can expect to receive a message, tomorrow.

Also, would you ask the maker of the game where you can hear that special sound effect if you cannot find it?
I used it in a way some people probably will never hear it.

When in doubt, include it in a readme text file. That way, judges don't have to bother you about stuff like that.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *FINAL WEEK!!!*
Post by: Storyyeller on May 29, 2014, 09:08:23 am
I'll be submitting something, even if it's not as complete as I originally hoped.

P.S. There should be an exclamation mark at the end of the name (I Hate Time Travel!) and the Y in Storyyeller isn't capitalized.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *FINAL WEEK!!!*
Post by: Storyyeller on May 30, 2014, 12:29:34 am
When precisely is the deadline?

Also, are all of the judges running 64bit Windows?
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *FINAL WEEK!!!*
Post by: MetaKK on May 30, 2014, 12:38:43 am
When precisely is the deadline?

Also, are all of the judges running 64bit Windows?
I am. Can't speak for the others though.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *FINAL WEEK!!!*
Post by: YoSniper on May 30, 2014, 06:27:19 am
When precisely is the deadline?

Also, are all of the judges running 64bit Windows?
Absolute last day to submit is June 1st. And I am also using 64-bit Windows.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *FINAL WEEK!!!*
Post by: Storyyeller on May 30, 2014, 07:21:05 am
I meant what time on June 1st.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *FINAL WEEK!!!*
Post by: YoSniper on May 30, 2014, 07:38:11 am
I meant what time on June 1st.
11:59:59pm Eastern Standard Time.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *FINAL WEEK!!!*
Post by: Nat on May 30, 2014, 07:43:49 am
I am also running in 64-bit Windows.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *FINAL WEEK!!!*
Post by: Kellion on May 30, 2014, 07:56:07 am
I bloody hate this time thingy. Gonna be a last time poster :P

Good luck everyone :)
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *LAST CALL*
Post by: YoSniper on May 31, 2014, 05:18:38 pm
Less than 36 hours to go!
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *LAST CALL*
Post by: infern0man1 on May 31, 2014, 07:24:41 pm
I might have 64bit, but not sure. I also won't dl any of the games until the whole pack is assembled.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *LAST CALL*
Post by: Storyyeller on May 31, 2014, 10:52:27 pm
Ok, I'm just a little worried because I'm compiling on a 64bit machine, and I'm not sure if the game will work on 32bit computers.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *LAST CALL*
Post by: Storyyeller on June 01, 2014, 03:20:41 am
For your consideration

I Hate Time Travel!
Download (http://www.mediafire.com/download/rzv46enjhan0jzu/I_Hate_Time_Travel!.zip)

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a9/storyyeller/screenshot6.png)


I hope you like really hard puzzles. At any rate, I'm confident this will be the most unique game out there.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *LAST CALL*
Post by: Kellion on June 01, 2014, 03:08:29 pm
POST!

(http://i.imgur.com/6aGMyco.png)

Done :) Good luck for the contest!!!

http://kayin.pyoko.org/iwbtg/forums/index.php?topic=18501.0

EDIT: Upload speeds are dreadful, the links are up in 10 minutes :)

EDIT2: Download link: http://www.mediafire.com/download/wi9s217k5haitwv/I_Wanna_Be_The_Boss_Hunter_V0.3.1.rar
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *LAST CALL*
Post by: YoSniper on June 01, 2014, 03:14:46 pm
POST!

(http://i.imgur.com/6aGMyco.png)

Done :) Good luck for the contest!!!

http://kayin.pyoko.org/iwbtg/forums/index.php?topic=18501.0
Got a link for me there, Kendom? I don't want to download the wrong version by mistake.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *LAST CALL*
Post by: Mr Wonderful on June 01, 2014, 05:07:22 pm
Hi! I would like to enter if it is not too late?

I was making a new game, and this contest was going on, so I figured that I could make it adhere to the contest rules and submit it. It looks like a lot of people failed to submit, so I hope you have room for me.  :D

This game is quite a bit longer than my other games. I also tried to make sure to give it a reasonable difficulty curve this time instead of being all over the place like my previous two games.

Regarding the contest:
1. The pie is in a secret room.
2. You can't miss the sound effect.
3. I think two screens will count as a cinematic? Maybe loosely so, but I hope they do.

Here is link: http://www.mediafire.com/download/z1x6h1jncz6zboa/I+Wanna+Wake+Up.zip

And preview:
(http://i.imgur.com/oKAkljg.jpg)
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *LAST CALL*
Post by: Hiddow on June 01, 2014, 05:09:38 pm
I have grown interested in becoming a judge and am wondering if that is still a possibility.


In any case, good luck contestants!
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *LAST CALL*
Post by: YoSniper on June 01, 2014, 05:13:51 pm
I have grown interested in becoming a judge and am wondering if that is still a possibility.


In any case, good luck contestants!
While I am allowing contestants to submit last minute entries, I feel that judges should have more of an established reputation.

Given that this was your first post on the forum, I'd have to say no to the judge thing for THIS contest, but if I do host another contest like this next year, and you're still around and have made some good contributions to discussions, then I would not be opposed to you judging for that one.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *LAST CALL*
Post by: pieceofcheese87 on June 01, 2014, 05:18:26 pm
I know hiddow very well. He is an active member of the twitch community and the skype group. He's a really cool guy and I'm sure he would do a fine job as a judge
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *LAST CALL*
Post by: Rebag102 on June 01, 2014, 05:18:41 pm
I have grown interested in becoming a judge and am wondering if that is still a possibility.


In any case, good luck contestants!
While I am allowing contestants to submit last minute entries, I feel that judges should have more of an established reputation.

Given that this was your first post on the forum, I'd have to say no to the judge thing for THIS contest, but if I do host another contest like this next year, and you're still around and have made some good contributions to discussions, then I would not be opposed to you judging for that one.
I would love to judge but I can't really download anything right now. Not to mention some of these games could be out of my skill level
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *LAST CALL*
Post by: YoSniper on June 01, 2014, 05:20:35 pm
I know hiddow very well. He is an active member of the twitch community and the skype group. He's a really cool guy and I'm sure he would do a fine job as a judge
Okay, if you say so, then I'll allow him access to the wiki.

Hiddow, if you PM me an e-mail address, I will send you an invite to the wiki where I'm having all of the judges discuss and vote (in the long run) on all of the submissions. The rules for casting votes are up there as well.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *LAST CALL*
Post by: YoSniper on June 01, 2014, 08:37:18 pm
All right, guys.

I'm signing off for tonight, but if anyone still has submissions for the contest, or updates for the submissions they've already put in, then I will accept changes or submissions in Personal Messages ONLY that are timestamped prior to 12:00AM EST.

After that, the doors close and the judging commences.

Expect judging results to conclude by roughly July 1st, 2014. This is a ballpark estimate, so please have patience. The $100 prize will go to someone!
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *LAST CALL*
Post by: AlextheTroller on June 02, 2014, 02:42:05 am
Good luck to every person who entered the contest and im also posting this so you guys could know i didnt forgot about it ;)
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *LAST CALL*
Post by: Fatih on June 02, 2014, 07:07:32 am
I HAVE THE FUCKING HYPE RIGHT NOW
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *JUDGING IN PROGRESS*
Post by: YoSniper on June 02, 2014, 04:53:51 pm
It's a damn shame that so many people bowed out or failed to submit an entry.

But anyway, I'm happy to have 12 submissions.

Judging will now commence, and hopefully we will have results for you in July.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *JUDGING IN PROGRESS*
Post by: Kyir on June 02, 2014, 05:07:49 pm
I win the award for longest title! I will accept all $100 as a prize.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *JUDGING IN PROGRESS*
Post by: Rebag102 on June 02, 2014, 05:17:05 pm
It's a damn shame that so many people bowed out or failed to submit an entry.
Will lemonxreaper be finishing his game?
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *JUDGING IN PROGRESS*
Post by: YoSniper on June 02, 2014, 07:02:53 pm
It's a damn shame that so many people bowed out or failed to submit an entry.
Will lemonxreaper be finishing his game?
Dunno. He said he wasn't happy with how unfinished his game was and that's why he withdrew.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *JUDGING IN PROGRESS*
Post by: Uncle Ochipi on June 02, 2014, 10:53:45 pm
I believe i can win :-)... i will win this contest. Luck to all. And luck for me (the cinematic of my gamge is the "intro"(ochipi waking up))
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *JUDGING IN PROGRESS*
Post by: Gutiger on June 03, 2014, 05:19:45 am
I win the award for longest title! I will accept all $100 as a prize.

Actually, if you play my game, you'll see the full name is:

I WANNA ENTER IRONICALLY YOSNIPER'S FANGAME CONTEST BECAUSE I HAD CREATED A STAGE FOR STARZOR'S DEATH COLLAB BUT IT DIDN'T REALLY FIT THE THEME OF THAT AND NO ONE HAS EVEN MENTIONED THAT COLLAB IN LIKE SIX MONTHS SO I'M LIKE "OK NOW WHAT DO I DO WITH THIS" SO IT'S JUST BEEN COLLECTING DUST ON MY HARD DRIVE AND I PLANNED TO DO SOMETHING WITH IT EVENTUALLY I'M REALLY LAZY BUT THEN I WAS LIKE "YOU KNOW WHAT I THINK I'LL JUST GROOM THE GAME A BIT AND SUBMIT IT FOR THE YOSNIPER CONTEST EVEN THOUGH IT'S ONLY ONE ROOM LONG AND REQUIRES SOME ADVANCED KNOWLEDGE OF FANGAME PHYSICS BUT SINCE I WON'T WIN I'LL JUST FULFILL THE REQUIREMENTS AND SEE HOW IT GOES" SO THEN I DID THAT AND I WAS LIKE "YES THIS IS THE MOST RIDICULOUS I CAN POSSIBLY MAKE THIS" SO THEN I SUBMITTED THE GAME FOR THE CONTEST AND THEN YOU DOWNLOADED THE GAME AND NOW YOU ARE READING THIS SENTENCE SO KUDOS TO YOU FOR DOING THAT AND TO CONGRATULATE YOU ON SUCH AMAZING READING I WILL TELL THAT THE SECRET TO BEATING THIS FANGAME IS TO JUST NOT SUCK AT FANGAMES THAT'S IT THERE IS NO OTHER SECRET SO GOOD LUCK
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *JUDGING IN PROGRESS*
Post by: Kyir on June 03, 2014, 06:50:56 am
Oh shit I forgot. Well congrats on your $100 then.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *JUDGING IN PROGRESS*
Post by: Uncle Ochipi on June 06, 2014, 06:13:47 pm
Oh shit I forgot. Well congrats on your $100 then.

The lost title of my game is ; i wanna kill the ochipi 2 THE OCHIPI returns and a pie atack when the omnotrucated tresseract is too calm and im a master. The ochipi is male judges please review this work because i put too much effort i put all the requeriments (the normal,entertaiment and secret requeriments(the readme.txt file)) AWITA is back an d is not a bullet hell (well is that (but is not a bullet hell survival)) hahaha im working in another game if you want to test it. I put an update of this game in a 26 day chain ooo im awesome, the other titles are too little in comparation and i will win because the anouncement day of I WANNA KILL THE OCHIPI 2 was the day of the first release. It have 5 acts and 7 bosses. And the game have 26 versions and other games have a single versio. Brisulph runs bad in my pc :( im tryng to learn japanese and im very new in the GM. Construct 2 is too complicated. I wanna stop liquid from lying is the worst fangame ever created. Dallas is bad... emm i have an steam acount if you want add me ( i can change my opinnion and denegate your buddy invitation because im pro. I dont translated this message in google translator because i speak spanish im chilean poor participants that couldnt submit his proect. I lost one hour in this thing
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *JUDGING IN PROGRESS*
Post by: Rebag102 on June 06, 2014, 09:36:05 pm
Hey charizardfuego52 your game crashes in Windows 8 at the flygon boss
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *JUDGING IN PROGRESS*
Post by: Uncle Ochipi on June 07, 2014, 03:16:54 pm
Hey charizardfuego52 your game crashes in Windows 8 at the flygon boss

WIndows 8? OMFG abort. I dont know how to fix it
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *JUDGING IN PROGRESS*
Post by: Infinite on June 07, 2014, 03:28:15 pm
Windows 8
There's your problem.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *JUDGING IN PROGRESS*
Post by: Rebag102 on June 07, 2014, 05:07:38 pm
Hey charizardfuego52 your game crashes in Windows 8 at the flygon boss

WIndows 8? OMFG abort. I dont know how to fix it
Maybe don't have the gun be turbo
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *JUDGING IN PROGRESS*
Post by: Uncle Ochipi on June 07, 2014, 11:21:32 pm
Hey charizardfuego52 your game crashes in Windows 8 at the flygon boss

WIndows 8? OMFG abort. I dont know how to fix it
Maybe don't have the gun be turbo
nope, before i put the autofire the crash alredy exist.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *JUDGING IN PROGRESS*
Post by: renhoex on June 08, 2014, 02:04:28 am
It might have something to do with sound, make sure you put
sound_stop(sound);
sound_play(samesound);
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *JUDGING IN PROGRESS*
Post by: Kellion on June 08, 2014, 06:37:01 am
It might have something to do with sound, make sure you put
sound_stop(sound);
sound_play(samesound);

Or... put that into a script

script:soundfix

Code: [Select]
sound_stop()
sound_play()

To put the sound of your choice:
Code: [Select]
soundfix(your_sound_here)
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *JUDGING IN PROGRESS*
Post by: Uncle Ochipi on June 08, 2014, 11:26:43 pm
It might have something to do with sound, make sure you put
sound_stop(sound);
sound_play(samesound);

Or... put that into a script

script:soundfix

Code: [Select]
sound_stop()
sound_play()

To put the sound of your choice:
Code: [Select]
soundfix(your_sound_here)
Ok i will try to put it in the next version.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *JUDGING IN PROGRESS*
Post by: shitty name fixed on June 12, 2014, 10:56:51 am
I'm afraid that certain circumstances are going to force me to have to resign from being a judge in this contest. I'm going to be incredibly busy this summer and I'm simply not going to have enough free time to be able to finish/fairly review and judge all of these games. Sorry for letting you guys down.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *JUDGING IN PROGRESS*
Post by: YoSniper on June 12, 2014, 12:35:48 pm
I'm afraid that certain circumstances are going to force me to have to resign from being a judge in this contest. I'm going to be incredibly busy this summer and I'm simply not going to have enough free time to be able to finish/fairly review and judge all of these games. Sorry for letting you guys down.

You're not letting us down. Thank you for being up front about it, though.

I'm just hopeful that all other judges are actively playing and judging the games. I haven't seen a ton of input on the wiki.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *JUDGING IN PROGRESS*
Post by: infern0man1 on June 12, 2014, 06:33:40 pm
I might just drop out as well. I really have no desire to play many of the games submitted and criticize them afterwards. If that is okay?
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *JUDGING IN PROGRESS*
Post by: Kyir on June 12, 2014, 07:31:15 pm
Did you think there weren't going to be any games to play or something? That's about all being a judge consists of.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *JUDGING IN PROGRESS*
Post by: infern0man1 on June 12, 2014, 08:20:33 pm
I originally wanted to judge. But I tried a couple of games and they just didn't seem fun at all, and I don't really want to continue playing them.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *JUDGING IN PROGRESS*
Post by: YoSniper on June 12, 2014, 09:28:50 pm
I'm cool with you guys dropping out, but if too many more people bow out, then there's no fucking way I'm hosting another contest, like ever.

It's pretty much been my life story where if I plan anything, few to no people participate, but anyone else can plan something with less than 12 hours' notice and everyone partakes. I'm not angry with anyone; just frustrated.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *JUDGING IN PROGRESS*
Post by: Storyyeller on June 13, 2014, 12:58:22 am
I participated, and I haven't made a game in years. Of course, this will probably be the last one I make as I'm working full time now.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *JUDGING IN PROGRESS*
Post by: arcticfox1985 on June 14, 2014, 05:02:51 pm
If I had known judges were going to bow out earlier, I could have judged. I mean all I've done is beaten IWBTG, Zoop, and Brisulph, but doesnt matter now I guess...

I played Boss Hunter and found it pretty fun, with a good save difficulty curve (good placement). Music was great and I liked the atmosphere, but I didn't even make it to a boss. Got frustrated when my videos came out crappy, but I still have the game installed.

But yeah I wouldn't have time to judge now...school's about to start up again.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *JUDGING IN PROGRESS*
Post by: YoSniper on June 20, 2014, 03:19:25 pm
ATTENTION JUDGES:

My goal was to have all judges' comments and votes on the games by July 1st. I understand that that might not be viable for some of you.

If you need more time, please let me know. It would be nice to have a time frame for when everyone will be finished judging.

Thanks!
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *JUDGING IN PROGRESS*
Post by: Storyyeller on June 25, 2014, 11:07:34 pm
Has anyone beaten my game yet?

Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *JUDGING IN PROGRESS*
Post by: Fatih on June 26, 2014, 01:51:27 pm
I'm sorry, YoSniper, but I don't think that I'll be able to judge since Acer still didn't send back my laptop (which teaches me that they have no idea of how to install windows), so I won't have enough time to judge.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *JUDGING IN PROGRESS*
Post by: YoSniper on June 26, 2014, 03:05:24 pm
I'm sorry, YoSniper, but I don't think that I'll be able to judge since Acer still didn't send back my laptop (which teaches me that they have no idea of how to install windows), so I won't have enough time to judge.
*sigh*
It's fine. I understand. The mechanics of this contest were poorly planned from the start, so it's not surprising that people are getting hit with unforeseen troubles.

Basically as long as I have enough judges to discuss and vote on the games, I'll be satisfied.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *JUDGING IN PROGRESS*
Post by: Rebag102 on June 26, 2014, 10:41:28 pm
May I judge?
I have nothing better to do
Or at least judge as many games as my pc will let me
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *JUDGING IN PROGRESS*
Post by: patrickgh on June 27, 2014, 01:19:45 am
Has anyone beaten my game yet?

I played for ~45 minutes, got to level 3. I couldn't figure out what was going on at all. The readme and ingame messages were cryptic and didn't help. Pressing 'R' reset you to level 1. It was quite frustrating. I would believe it if the whole time travel system was neat and gave way to nice puzzles and level design, but the game as is is user hostile and essentially unplayable. Sorry if that's harsh, I don't mean to insult you or anything. I'm not sure what your goals were with making this game, I could understand if you just wanted to design the system and make a tech demo, but creating a nice difficulty curve, creating a nice game flow, and incorporating test feedback are important parts of game development as a whole. It feels rude and neglectful to leave those parts out, to both players and to what the game could be.

I don't fully understand how time travel works, probably not at all actually, but if I did I imagine I'd think it was pretty neat, and there would probably be some potential for neat level design. I kind of understood how i beat level 1 (I didn't use a few of the puzzle elements), but I beat level 2 completely on accident and I kind of feel like I glitched the game. I have no idea what to do on level 3. The motion blur looked very nice, and aesthetically the graphics and sound were pretty okay for this style of game. I adore the sprite of the active robot, he's like your cute little space shuttle pal. I want to take him home with me and cuddle him.

(http://i.imgur.com/0toRE6a.png)
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *JUDGING IN PROGRESS*
Post by: YoSniper on June 27, 2014, 08:56:17 am
May I judge?
I have nothing better to do
Or at least judge as many games as my pc will let me
If you truly feel that you can play 12 fangames, give feedback on all of them, AND cast a vote all within the next few weeks, then send me a PM with your e-mail address and I'll add you on.

I still have no idea when to expect more judges' votes as of yet. I know Axl is working hard, other judges are regularly visiting the wiki but aren't adding to discussions, and still others haven't looked at the wiki in weeks.

Might have to send out a nastygram soon...
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *JUDGING IN PROGRESS*
Post by: Rebag102 on June 27, 2014, 09:04:16 am
May I judge?
I have nothing better to do
Or at least judge as many games as my pc will let me
If you truly feel that you can play 12 fangames, give feedback on all of them, AND cast a vote all within the next few weeks, then send me a PM with your e-mail address and I'll add you on.

I still have no idea when to expect more judges' votes as of yet. I know Axl is working hard, other judges are regularly visiting the wiki but aren't adding to discussions, and still others haven't looked at the wiki in weeks.

Might have to send out a nastygram soon...
On second thought, Fuck that ill just review and maybe stream them
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *JUDGING IN PROGRESS*
Post by: ethinthenougathorn on June 27, 2014, 10:22:48 am
May I judge?
I have nothing better to do
Or at least judge as many games as my pc will let me
If you truly feel that you can play 12 fangames, give feedback on all of them, AND cast a vote all within the next few weeks, then send me a PM with your e-mail address and I'll add you on.

I still have no idea when to expect more judges' votes as of yet. I know Axl is working hard, other judges are regularly visiting the wiki but aren't adding to discussions, and still others haven't looked at the wiki in weeks.


Might have to send out a nastygram soon...

so, it would be great if you could set the line for testing 1 week later (8th july). i think i wont be able to finish testing this weekend, but the one after i think. i havent commented on the games yet though i already have my final opinion on like half of the games
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *JUDGING IN PROGRESS*
Post by: Storyyeller on June 27, 2014, 10:51:30 am
I could understand if you just wanted to design the system and make a tech demo, but creating a nice difficulty curve, creating a nice game flow, and incorporating test feedback are important parts of game development as a whole. It feels rude and neglectful to leave those parts out, to both players and to what the game could be.

Part of the problem is that this wasn't possible due to the extremely limited development time.


I suppose this is the risk with creating a puzzle game based on unique mechanics. Oh well, I'm sure there are plenty of needle games for you.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *JUDGING IN PROGRESS*
Post by: YoSniper on June 27, 2014, 10:54:45 am
May I judge?
I have nothing better to do
Or at least judge as many games as my pc will let me
If you truly feel that you can play 12 fangames, give feedback on all of them, AND cast a vote all within the next few weeks, then send me a PM with your e-mail address and I'll add you on.

I still have no idea when to expect more judges' votes as of yet. I know Axl is working hard, other judges are regularly visiting the wiki but aren't adding to discussions, and still others haven't looked at the wiki in weeks.


Might have to send out a nastygram soon...

so, it would be great if you could set the line for testing 1 week later (8th july). i think i wont be able to finish testing this weekend, but the one after i think. i havent commented on the games yet though i already have my final opinion on like half of the games
I'd happily give everyone more time if people would give me a timeframe. So far, you are the only one to give me an actual date when I can expect a vote to come in. Although, it looks like Axl will have a vote ready soon. Other than that, I haven't a clue.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *JUDGING IN PROGRESS*
Post by: pieceofcheese87 on June 27, 2014, 12:18:26 pm
I could understand if you just wanted to design the system and make a tech demo, but creating a nice difficulty curve, creating a nice game flow, and incorporating test feedback are important parts of game development as a whole. It feels rude and neglectful to leave those parts out, to both players and to what the game could be.

Part of the problem is that this wasn't possible due to the extremely limited development time.
I suppose this is the risk with creating a puzzle game based on unique mechanics. Oh well, I'm sure there are plenty of needle games for you.

That was a rather rude statement. To me it seemed like you just disregarded his criticism and told him to fuck off. Everything he pointed out is valid and he's not trying to make you feel bad, he's trying to make your game better. Patrick is a great guy and a nice member of the community. I know he doesn't like needle games...
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *JUDGING IN PROGRESS*
Post by: Swordslinger on June 27, 2014, 06:01:34 pm
To me, it just seemed like Storyyeller was acknowledging that different people have different tastes in fangames and that by him creating a unique gimmick he was likely to isolate a number of players who are not interested in that type of game. He gave a valid reason as to why he didn't accomplish the things that Patrick criticised him for.

I really don't see any reason to attack Storyyeller.

It did not seem like an attack at all, every game has flaws, doesn't hurt to criticize them or point them out. A game creator does need some criticism and not take it heavily and look at it like a good thing. If you are going to take criticism so heavily and completely defend it and not even consider then that is a bad thing. The way storyyeller said it though seems more like he hates needle game players and that does not really feel right, for someone like me who loves needle games i consider that offensive, but it's not all i play and it's not all i love. Patrick really is a cool dude though, I would believe what he says.

That was a rather rude statement.

The very beginning of this post is very true.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *JUDGING IN PROGRESS*
Post by: Storyyeller on June 27, 2014, 09:07:09 pm
Sorry, I wasn't trying to attack anyone. I guess instead of needle game I should have said mainstream game (well mainstream in terms of the IWBTG fangame community).

The problem is that the kind of game I like to make is a) niche, and b) takes a lot of time to make.

The other problem is that the mechanics I chose are relatively complex and hard to understand if you're not used to them, and it's based on an obscure game which most people won't have played, unlike, say, Portal. I underestimated how hard it would be to understand for the average player.

The one criticism I disagree with is the lack of difficulty curve. There is a difficulty curve, it's just a rather steep one since it's compressed into only three levels.

Level 1: no time travel involved
Level 2: single chronoport required, no paradoxes
Level 3: sequence of 3-4 chronoports required to set up a stable loop, plus several other tricky parts

Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *JUDGING IN PROGRESS*
Post by: Kyir on June 27, 2014, 10:37:49 pm
It's clear that my super high quality, meticulously crafted game will win anyway. You could easily confuse it with one designed by a team of French artisans working for several years.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *JUDGING IN PROGRESS*
Post by: pieceofcheese87 on June 27, 2014, 10:47:14 pm
It's clear that my super high quality, meticulously crafted game will win anyway. You could easily confuse it with one designed by a team of French artisans working for several years.

wait... you mean it WASN'T designed by a team of French artisans working for several years?
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *JUDGING IN PROGRESS*
Post by: patrickgh on June 27, 2014, 11:03:10 pm
Quote from: people
resolving conflict respectfully and saying patrick is a cool guy

<3

Sorry, I wasn't trying to attack anyone. I guess instead of needle game I should have said mainstream game (well mainstream in terms of the IWBTG fangame community).

The problem is that the kind of game I like to make is a) niche, and b) takes a lot of time to make.

The other problem is that the mechanics I chose are relatively complex and hard to understand if you're not used to them, and it's based on an obscure game which most people won't have played, unlike, say, Portal. I underestimated how hard it would be to understand for the average player.

The one criticism I disagree with is the lack of difficulty curve. There is a difficulty curve, it's just a rather steep one since it's compressed into only three levels.

Level 1: no time travel involved
Level 2: single chronoport required, no paradoxes
Level 3: sequence of 3-4 chronoports required to set up a stable loop, plus several other tricky parts

I agree that the mechanics of the game are quite complex, and are difficult to understand and take a long time to learn and master. (Though they're still very neat and seem pretty darn well implemented, props to you.) I think this makes having a good difficulty curve extra important for this game. I agree with you that the progression feels compressed. And the level design felt pretty cluttered as well, which was kind of a side effect of this. I think that taking the ideas you had, isolating them, and spreading them out across many levels would help with the compressed feeling, as well as make the level design cleaner and allow for more fine-tuning of the difficulty curve. And also allow you to vary the level structure (like varying sentence structure to make prose more interesting), allow you to go off on a tangent for a few levels exploring a specific mechanic, and probably a bunch of other stuff.

Part of the problem is that this wasn't possible due to the extremely limited development time.

I think that the aspects the game was lacking in are super important, just as important as any other aspects, and no aspect should ever be *too* lacking, no matter what. This philosophy totally applies to game jams or any other development cycle, short or long. And it applies to any aspect, like art/graphics (at least draw some sprites instead of squares moving around), sound (even blips make the game feel alive), level design, etc. And in a similar vein, working on those lacking areas is super cost effective for the amount of effort vs the improvement of the overall quality of the game. That's probably my biggest point here. Here's a nice metaphor that instantly popped into my head: the little chart off to the side in the song select screens in DDR games. Pushing out the weakest vertex of the polygon even a little bit helps a lot with its overall form. It's just the imagery I was thinking about here; I don't know anything about how the game calculates the diagram or if it's even significant.

(http://i.imgur.com/zR7uhdH.png)
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *JUDGING IN PROGRESS*
Post by: Fatih on June 28, 2014, 09:29:54 am
stream = the smoothness of arrows that come
chaos = the amount of arrows smaller than 1/4th
freeze = amount of freeze arrows
air = amount of jumps (2 arrows at one time)
voltage = density of arrows

now on topic, I just found out that my laptop came back, and acer didn't even format it. all they did was replace the harddrive with an empty one!

I think I may judge now, but it'll take a bit of time...
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *JUDGING IN PROGRESS*
Post by: Rebag102 on June 28, 2014, 09:51:55 am
stream = the smoothness of arrows that come
chaos = the amount of arrows smaller than 1/4th
freeze = amount of freeze arrows
air = amount of jumps (2 arrows at one time)
voltage = density of arrows

now on topic, I just found out that my laptop came back, and acer didn't even format it. all they did was replace the harddrive with an empty one!

I think I may judge now, but it'll take a bit of time...
You have till July 1st kappa
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *JUDGING IN PROGRESS*
Post by: YoSniper on June 28, 2014, 10:24:07 am
I think I may judge now, but it'll take a bit of time...
Okay. I had already removed you from the wiki, but I'll add you back on if you resend me your email.

I cleaned out my inbox not long ago.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *JUDGING IN PROGRESS*
Post by: AlextheTroller on June 30, 2014, 06:03:28 am
Ok.. im done with the rating, again i wish good luck to those who worked hard on their games  ;D
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *JUDGING IN PROGRESS*
Post by: YoSniper on June 30, 2014, 08:25:54 am
Excellent®. Four judges have cast their votes. Right now, I have extended the voting deadline to July 8th.

If any judges require a longer extension, please let me know soon. I don't want to delay this too much further, so please do what you can to make your final judgments.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *JUDGING IN PROGRESS*
Post by: Uncle Ochipi on July 01, 2014, 03:16:37 pm
Im so exitted : D   
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *JUDGING IN PROGRESS*
Post by: LOLGAMMER on July 04, 2014, 08:32:04 am
I'm sorry but I really don't want to be a judge anymore for this contest.I'm tired with testing these fangames and I actually stopped playing fangames 1 month ago or so.Also I won't be home for 2 weeks and that means I will not be able to use my computer.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *JUDGING IN PROGRESS*
Post by: YoSniper on July 04, 2014, 09:51:33 am
I'm sorry but I really don't want to be a judge anymore for this contest.I'm tired with testing these fangames and I actually stopped playing fangames 1 month ago or so.Also I won't be home for 2 weeks and that means I will not be able to use my computer.
You were Biyom, correct?
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *JUDGING IN PROGRESS*
Post by: pieceofcheese87 on July 04, 2014, 10:23:24 am
Jesus christ, you judges make me sick.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *JUDGING IN PROGRESS*
Post by: Rebag102 on July 04, 2014, 10:29:46 am
Jesus christ, you judges make me sick.
Why?
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *JUDGING IN PROGRESS*
Post by: LOLGAMMER on July 04, 2014, 10:37:25 am
I'm sorry but I really don't want to be a judge anymore for this contest.I'm tired with testing these fangames and I actually stopped playing fangames 1 month ago or so.Also I won't be home for 2 weeks and that means I will not be able to use my computer.
You were Biyom, correct?
yes
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *JUDGING IN PROGRESS*
Post by: YoSniper on July 04, 2014, 04:51:51 pm
Eight judges remain, four of which still need to vote. Deadline at present is end of the day July 8th. See OP for details.

JUDGES, I AM NOT ASKING THAT YOU HAVE TO COMPLETE EVERY SINGLE GAME IN ORDER TO MAKE A JUDGMENT. YOU ONLY NEED TO PLAY ENOUGH OF THE GAMES IN ORDER TO GIVE FEEDBACK ON THE GAME AND RANK IT AMONG YOUR VOTES.

HOWEVER, I DO ASK THAT IF YOU DO NOT COMPLETE A GAME, GIVE THE DEVELOPER THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT IN CASE YOU DO NOT SEE SOME OF THE REQUIREMENTS FULFILLED (LIKE IF YOU DID NOT SEE A PIE THROUGH THE POINT WHERE YOU STOPPED.) DO NOT VOTE 'DQ' IN SUCH CASES UNLESS YOU DID SEE WHAT YOU CONSIDER TO BE AN OUTRIGHT VIOLATION OF THE RULES (LIKE THE DEVELOPER USED A BULLET HELL BOSS OR A DOUBLE-JUMP RESTORE, FOR EXAMPLE.)
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *JUDGING IN PROGRESS*
Post by: Storyyeller on July 05, 2014, 01:08:30 am
Seeing as it looks like noone will actually beat me game, maybe I should post a video of a full playthrough?
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *JUDGING IN PROGRESS*
Post by: YoSniper on July 05, 2014, 08:46:07 am
Seeing as it looks like noone will actually beat me game, maybe I should post a video of a full playthrough?
I'm sure that would be appreciated.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *JUDGING IN PROGRESS*
Post by: MetaKK on July 05, 2014, 12:00:30 pm
Seeing as it looks like noone will actually beat me game, maybe I should post a video of a full playthrough?
Yeah that would be great.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *JUDGING IN PROGRESS*
Post by: Kyir on July 05, 2014, 06:44:33 pm
Jesus christ, you judges make me sick.
Why?

Probably because so many just ended up saying fuck it.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *JUDGING IN PROGRESS*
Post by: YoSniper on July 05, 2014, 09:47:11 pm
Alright! 6 judges have voted. 2 remain.

Thank you to everyone to has stuck with me to the end here. We should have some definitive results soon...
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *JUDGING IN PROGRESS*
Post by: Kyir on July 07, 2014, 12:07:51 am
Will we still be seeing the results tomorrow?
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *JUDGING IN PROGRESS*
Post by: YoSniper on July 07, 2014, 08:29:57 am
Will we still be seeing the results tomorrow?
You'll see the results as they come. Once the votes are finalized, I will put together results videos.

Problem is that I accidentally axed my recorded footage, so it will be a while before I remake it. I'm hoping I can start showing results next week, but I'll keep everyone informed regardless.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *JUDGING IN PROGRESS*
Post by: Storyyeller on July 07, 2014, 11:46:43 pm
By the way, does anyone know any good free video recording software?

I've looked in the past several times but haven't been able to find any.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *JUDGING IN PROGRESS*
Post by: MetaKK on July 08, 2014, 12:32:54 am
By the way, does anyone know any good free video recording software?

I've looked in the past several times but haven't been able to find any.
OBS. It's usually used for streaming but it also has a recording function. If you're not gonna pirate anything it's the next best thing.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *JUDGING IN PROGRESS*
Post by: Kyir on July 08, 2014, 02:42:49 am
Since the last two judges are taking forever, I'm sort of curious what everyone else's predictions are. I'd personally put Klazen up as the winner, but after that decisions would be a lot more difficult. Maybe Mr. Wonderful or cheese in 2nd?
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *JUDGING IN PROGRESS*
Post by: MetaKK on July 08, 2014, 02:47:46 am
Since the actual judges are taking forever, I'm sort of curious what everyone else's predictions are. I'd personally put Klazen up as the winner, but after that decisions would be a lot more difficult. Maybe Mr. Wonderful or cheese in 2nd?
Most of the judges' votes are actually in. Only 2 would be left, but those will be disregarded since the deadline is over now.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *JUDGING IN PROGRESS*
Post by: YoSniper on July 08, 2014, 06:49:05 am
Since the actual judges are taking forever, I'm sort of curious what everyone else's predictions are. I'd personally put Klazen up as the winner, but after that decisions would be a lot more difficult. Maybe Mr. Wonderful or cheese in 2nd?
Most of the judges' votes are actually in. Only 2 would be left, but those will be disregarded since the deadline is over now.
Not yet. They still have 17 hours by my count. I did say ens of the day July 8.

I think Ethin will get his votes in. Not so sure about HAEGOE.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *LAST CALL FOR JUDGES*
Post by: ethinthenougathorn on July 08, 2014, 11:46:52 am
so... i finally think ive tested enough for a rating im satisfied with...my votes are in!
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *LAST CALL FOR JUDGES*
Post by: YoSniper on July 08, 2014, 12:44:15 pm
so... i finally think ive tested enough for a rating im satisfied with...my votes are in!
Thank you very much, kind sir.

So now I'm just waiting on HAEGOE. Hopefully he got my email and will act today. Otherwise, it's down to 7 judges.

EDIT: Seriously, dude. You have one hour left.

EDIT 2: Well, that's it. 7 judges it is, and the votes have been finalized. I should begin releasing results videos by the end of the week (I have some busy nights ahead of me today and tomorrow, but this WILL happen.)

THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO STUCK WITH ME THROUGH TO THE END!
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *RESULTS TO COME SOON*
Post by: ForestFalcon on July 10, 2014, 04:01:45 am
Really glad that there were enough people to have a reasonable number of judges, and it's been nice to try out some of the fangames that were made because of this. Hopefully, we'll be able to have another contest like this in the future. I'll look forward to seeing the results of this.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *RESULTS TO COME SOON*
Post by: YoSniper on July 10, 2014, 06:48:06 am
Really glad that there were enough people to have a reasonable number of judges, and it's been nice to try out some of the fangames that were made because of this. Hopefully, we'll be able to have another contest like this in the future. I'll look forward to seeing the results of this.
I just need to finish gathering my footage and editing the videos together. Videos should start coming out around Saturday (I hope.)

But yeah, given that more than half of the people in this contest either withdrew or disappeared, I don't see myself hosting another one. There would have to be a lot of demand for it for me to even consider it.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *RESULTS TO COME SOON*
Post by: Fatih on July 11, 2014, 02:39:29 am
Very sad, such bad

On the topic of HAEGOE, that guy is never active on anything. He comes on once a month on the Puyo forums and that's it!
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *RESULTS TO COME SOON*
Post by: infern0man1 on July 11, 2014, 09:55:39 am
Very sad, such bad

On the topic of HAEGOE, that guy is never active on anything. He comes on once a month on the Puyo forums and that's it!

On the contrary, HAEGOE is pretty active on Skype.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *RESULTS TO COME SOON*
Post by: Storyyeller on July 11, 2014, 10:33:11 pm
But yeah, given that more than half of the people in this contest either withdrew or disappeared, I don't see myself hosting another one. There would have to be a lot of demand for it for me to even consider it.

In my case, this was pretty much a swan song, since I haven't been active making fangames for years and don't have plans (or the time) to make any more.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *RESULTS TO COME SOON*
Post by: YoSniper on July 12, 2014, 11:10:01 am
FYI, I have all of my raw footage now. I just have to edit everything together, which may take a while. I'll try my best to post the first results video tonight, but if I can't, then I will try for tomorrow. Regardless, the videos will likely come out slowly, but the results will all be out before the end of the month for sure.

EDIT: Part 1 of the results has been uploaded. I'll post later videos as time allows.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *RESULTS*
Post by: Uncle Ochipi on July 14, 2014, 01:28:10 pm
I hosted a contest where various game developers get to create fangames within certain rules. The prize at stake was $100.

Judges:
MetaKnightKirby2 VOTED
Axl VOTED
ethinthenougathorn VOTED
Alexthe9995guy VOTED
Natmanoleon VOTED
YoSniper VOTED
Hiddow VOTED

My sincere thanks to everyone who stuck with me to the end here, whether you participated or judged.


Contestants in the Running and projects
1. SirRouven1003 - I Wanna Get Some Money SUBMITTED
2. pieceofcheese87 - I Wanna Escape Reality SUBMITTED
3. klazen108 - I Wanna Restore the Balance SUBMITTED
4. renhoex - I Wanna Be The Gun SUBMITTED
5. Kendom - I Wanna Be The Boss Hunter SUBMITTED
6. zeapawak - I Wanna Find The Sealed Power SUBMITTED
7. Kyir - I Wanna Conceptualize the Omnitruncated Tesseract SUBMITTED
8. GayWizard609 - I Wanna Be The Gaywizard SUBMITTED
9. Storyyeller - I love Time Travel!  SUBMITTED
10. charizardfuego52 - I Wanna Kill The Ochipi 2  SUBMITTED
11. Gutiger - I Wanna Enter Ironically SUBMITTED
12. Mr. Wonderful - I Wanna Wake Up SUBMITTED

Announcement video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pU7-xYYE_is

Rules Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xs4-kMMY-Ss

RESULTS HERE!
Part 1: www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMd-7dah9-A

SPOILERS ARE FUCKED UP, SO I'LL JUST DISPLAY THIS HERE:
The deadline for submission was June 1st, 2013. Whether your game is complete or incomplete, the final product must conform to all of the following rules in order to qualify:
Serious Rules
1. No double-jump restoring objects like in I Wanna Be The Boshy
2. No lasers that switch on and off like in I Wanna Kill The Guy
3. No Mario references or music
4. No bosses that are mere bullet hell like in I Wanna Be The Barrage
5. No copying rooms from other fangames like in I Wanna Kill The Kamilia
Entertainment Rules
6. Include a pie somewhere in your game
7. Include some form of cinematic in the game
8. Include a specific sound effect (you'll know it when you hear it)

Download the pack of submitted games here:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/39ik76ufxeijhdl

Note: I Wanna Kill The Ochipi 2 was omitted by author's request.
if you make another contest i will be in here, this forum, an i will put more effort.... (i will not start 2 weeks after).
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *RESULTS*
Post by: shitty name fixed on July 14, 2014, 03:34:18 pm
Regardless of who wins, I just want to say congratulations to everyone for submitting games. This was a fun almost social experiment, and it was fun to be a part of it, if only for a short while.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *RESULTS*
Post by: renhoex on July 15, 2014, 12:29:21 am
So I'm wandering will the released contest games be linked to after the results/ones that are already available be added?
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *RESULTS*
Post by: YoSniper on July 15, 2014, 06:48:31 am
So I'm wandering will the released contest games be linked to after the results/ones that are already available be added?
I've already included a link to the complete pack of gamea both in the OP and in the video description. IWKTO2 is not included by request of the author (was established before the votes came in.)
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *RESULTS*
Post by: renhoex on July 15, 2014, 07:14:54 am
Oh my bad, I should have paid more attention.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *RESULTS*
Post by: Kellion on July 15, 2014, 09:56:18 am
I hosted a contest where various game developers get to create fangames within certain rules. The prize at stake was $100.

Judges:
MetaKnightKirby2 VOTED
Axl VOTED
ethinthenougathorn VOTED
Alexthe9995guy VOTED
Natmanoleon VOTED
YoSniper VOTED
Hiddow VOTED

My sincere thanks to everyone who stuck with me to the end here, whether you participated or judged.


Contestants in the Running and projects
1. SirRouven1003 - I Wanna Get Some Money SUBMITTED
2. pieceofcheese87 - I Wanna Escape Reality SUBMITTED
3. klazen108 - I Wanna Restore the Balance SUBMITTED
4. renhoex - I Wanna Be The Gun SUBMITTED
5. Kendom - I Wanna Be The Boss Hunter SUBMITTED
6. zeapawak - I Wanna Find The Sealed Power SUBMITTED
7. Kyir - I Wanna Conceptualize the Omnitruncated Tesseract SUBMITTED
8. GayWizard609 - I Wanna Be The Gaywizard SUBMITTED
9. Storyyeller - I love Time Travel!  SUBMITTED
10. charizardfuego52 - I Wanna Kill The Ochipi 2  SUBMITTED
11. Gutiger - I Wanna Enter Ironically SUBMITTED
12. Mr. Wonderful - I Wanna Wake Up SUBMITTED

Announcement video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pU7-xYYE_is

Rules Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xs4-kMMY-Ss

RESULTS HERE!
Part 1: www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMd-7dah9-A

SPOILERS ARE FUCKED UP, SO I'LL JUST DISPLAY THIS HERE:
The deadline for submission was June 1st, 2013. Whether your game is complete or incomplete, the final product must conform to all of the following rules in order to qualify:
Serious Rules
1. No double-jump restoring objects like in I Wanna Be The Boshy
2. No lasers that switch on and off like in I Wanna Kill The Guy
3. No Mario references or music
4. No bosses that are mere bullet hell like in I Wanna Be The Barrage
5. No copying rooms from other fangames like in I Wanna Kill The Kamilia
Entertainment Rules
6. Include a pie somewhere in your game
7. Include some form of cinematic in the game
8. Include a specific sound effect (you'll know it when you hear it)

Download the pack of submitted games here:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/39ik76ufxeijhdl

Note: I Wanna Kill The Ochipi 2 was omitted by author's request.
if you make another contest i will be in here, this forum, an i will put more effort.... (i will not start 2 weeks after).



Same here. I learned a lot from this contest and hopefully do better next time  ;D

 It was fun, and congrats to all those that participated.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *RESULTS*
Post by: Uncle Ochipi on July 15, 2014, 08:17:28 pm
So I'm wandering will the released contest games be linked to after the results/ones that are already available be added?
I've already included a link to the complete pack of gamea both in the OP and in the video description. IWKTO2 is not included by request of the author (was established before the votes came in.)
thats happend because it has an special version with a message for the judges. =D
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *RESULTS*
Post by: YoSniper on July 16, 2014, 09:14:27 am
Second video is about halfway edited. I hope to have the next results video up by the end of the week. At the going rate, the final video will likely go up around the 20th or so.

Real life is a bitch.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *RESULTS*
Post by: Uncle Ochipi on July 16, 2014, 06:50:13 pm
Second video is about halfway edited. I hope to have the next results video up by the end of the week. At the going rate, the final video will likely go up around the 20th or so.

Real life is a bitch.
Sometimes she's really a bitch
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *RESULTS*
Post by: YoSniper on July 18, 2014, 10:58:40 pm
Okay, part 2 is up (or should be shortly. It was 95% processed last I checked.)
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *RESULTS*
Post by: Rebag102 on July 18, 2014, 11:24:01 pm
Yosniper, why do you have to upload all of the results in a video?
Or is this just a ploy to get more subs on your channel?
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *RESULTS*
Post by: infern0man1 on July 18, 2014, 11:33:54 pm
A better question would be: Why not?
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *RESULTS*
Post by: renhoex on July 18, 2014, 11:36:52 pm
I think it's the best way to showcase the games he's talking about.
Screenshots really don't do these justice. And text doesn't really grab peoples attention.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *RESULTS*
Post by: YoSniper on July 19, 2014, 09:11:15 am
Yosniper, why do you have to upload all of the results in a video?
Or is this just a ploy to get more subs on your channel?
I think the videos are a means of reaching a broader audience. Besides, if I just posted the results here, or on a blog somewhere, it would juat be a wall of text, and not nearly as fun for myself or for the reader.

Yes, the contest has earned me more subs, but it's not like I'll ever make a career out of YouTube.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *RESULTS*
Post by: Kyir on July 20, 2014, 11:25:56 am
Oh thank god you guys didn't use an incredibly stupid definition of a bullet hell to disqualify my game. I'm the luckiest man alive. It would have been downright tragic if you all managed to shove your heads far enough up your own asses to preform colonoscopies with your tongues.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *RESULTS*
Post by: MetaKK on July 20, 2014, 11:29:35 am
Oh thank god you guys didn't use a completely imprecise definition of a bullet hell to disqualify my game. I'm the luckiest man alive. It would have been downright tragic if you all managed to shove your heads far enough up your own asses to preform colonoscopies with your tongues.
Just be thankful that there was that little oversight in the rules. The main reason for that particular rule (I would imagine) was to not have any purely avoidance-based bosses. The little, sort of misplaced word "bullethell" saved you there and was the only reason I stepped up to defend your game in that regard.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *RESULTS*
Post by: Kyir on July 20, 2014, 11:32:10 am
Since they're pretty distinctly different things, I think my overly sarcastic complaint is pretty justified.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *RESULTS*
Post by: YoSniper on July 21, 2014, 08:55:26 pm
Just so you all know, it might be quite a while before I get the final video up. I'm putting together something special for it.

EDIT: Yeah, so every time I try to record stuff for the final video, I get summoned to some other task. Hopefully I can put it all together by the 31st, but even now that looks like a chore. I'm seriously doing everything I can to work fast. Please be patient.

EDIT2: Well, so far I have all of the footage I need, and I have 25% of the editing done. The final video should be up tomorrow (Wednesday the 30th) or the next day. Should be.

EDIT3: Stitching together the final pieces of the final results video. It will go up tomorrow around 4:30 PM EST.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *RESULTS*
Post by: pieceofcheese87 on July 31, 2014, 04:43:20 pm
hype  ;D
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *RESULTS*
Post by: YoSniper on July 31, 2014, 09:37:56 pm
And finally, the final results video has been posted!
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *RESULTS*
Post by: SirRouven on August 01, 2014, 03:19:58 am
I think that this is the perfect ending to this contest.
Being first place with another person is a really nice thing because I didn´t even imagine that my game could win.
Thank you for hosting this contest and congratulations to Klazen for achieving first place.
Also, thanks for the videos. They made it much more enjoyable than to read the results.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *RESULTS*
Post by: Storyyeller on August 02, 2014, 02:50:34 am
I'm surprised I managed 5th place given the negative feedback in the thread.

If only I had time to get other people to test it. I seriously underestimated how hard the mechanics would be to understand.
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *RESULTS*
Post by: shitty name fixed on August 02, 2014, 10:19:15 am
Congrats you guys
Title: Re: YoSniper's Fangame Contest *RESULTS*
Post by: d on August 07, 2014, 01:29:26 pm
Congrats you guys