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IWBTG => Other Games! => Topic started by: Venser on November 05, 2009, 09:19:56 pm

Title: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on November 05, 2009, 09:19:56 pm
UPDATE: The hacked ROM is FireRed. It's currently in development.

Screenshots:

: A small piece of Route 4 • show

(http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/3499/iwbtpscsht1.jpg)


Any and all requests for being in IWBTP are due no later than JUNE 9TH Midnight PST (so that'd be June 10th 1:00 AM in MST, 3:00AM in CST, and 4:00AM EST)

What you can request to be:

Random NPC- Tell me what you want them to say, I'll try not to Quartz' it, specific random NPC is also allowed, in that case give me the phrase and location of said NPC (i.e. "stupid carp": a guy in the pokecenter in Vermillion)

Random Trainer- Send me up to 4 pokemon you want on your team, no legendaries, I'll change them accordingly to fit area level. I cannot guarantee you'll use all 4, so if you're going for synergy, stick to two and then two others that can easily support. I CAN guarantee you 2 so tell me your priority for each, who knows, you may get all 4. You can also tell me a location you would like to be in. OR you can just let me do the work and make you something totally random, if you're lucky, you may end up a Rocket Grunt, and those things pack far more than Zubat in this hack, maybe even near Victory Road or a post-Champion area which I don't allow by normal request on location. If unlucky, Viridian Forest welcomes you. If you're one of those people who just goes "Can I be in it?" you'll be a random trainer.

General Character- Think Safari Warden or old tutorial man, S.S. Anne captain, maybe one of the guys blocking the Indigo Plateau or a Fisherman guy who gives a rod. As long as it's not listed below I will probably be ok with it.

What you can NOT request to be:
A Gym Leader (including Giovanni pre-Gym)
The Champion
The Rival

A Nurse Joy (YES I HAVE A PLAN FOR THESE)
Professor Oak
A pokemon (but see below)
Bill


Other possible allowed requests:
A pokemon -Although you yourself may not be a pokemon, you can request something to replace a pokemon, keep in mind many spaces are taken, and colors aren't always so kind on the GBA, so these will have a high rejection rate.

Signs- request type is similar to a specific NPC, tell me which sign and what it should say, as long as it isn't too retarded, it'll probably make it into the game)

Attacks- A lot of these are taken, but if you choose to replace something that I haven't changed yet, you're in luck. Be sure to tell me A.) The type, B.) The base power, C.) The name (you can also choose to just rename a move), D.) special effect (poison, paralysis, sleep, priority, drawback-boost-down, etc.) Nothing too broken though, I will not make you a 255 base power dragon move with priority.

List of people whose places have already been set/requested/taken into account:
Liquid, Venser, Pokota, Oldgreg, Tayloop, Dsk, Kitty, Kwiftee, SilentLoner, Ragnarok, Kayin, Ark, Evan, Koppis, Nolan, Silver, Yule, Tijit, Sarah, JCM/Lion, Amber, DraconicDescendant, Woeful, Neo, Salamander, nukeitfromorbit, Ae Zi, Last_Rites, platinum/spriter, Toon, guywithpasta, Myself

Going to check more for any others I missed. PM ME ALL REQUESTS BEGINNING MAY 25TH (so requests are closed for a little under 4 hours, not that it makes a difference).

~Kudo

Current status: In development by Kudo.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on November 05, 2009, 09:20:50 pm
What.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on November 05, 2009, 09:22:50 pm
Did you not read the other thread, or are you just amazed at my 1337 h/-\ck1ng sk1llz?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: ybbald on November 05, 2009, 09:23:39 pm
I wanna be Seximon
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on November 05, 2009, 09:25:23 pm
You can make that on your own time.

Mostly I made this thread so that Kudo can come in and post what he's capable of in relation to this project.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on November 05, 2009, 09:30:26 pm
I'm intrigued, go on.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: ybbald on November 05, 2009, 09:31:41 pm
so this thread fails?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on November 05, 2009, 09:36:30 pm
You seriously didn't read the other thread? >.>

Fine, fine.

Evan suggested that we hack a pokemon ROM (preferably of D/P/P generation, for the special/physical split) and make the favored members the Gym Leaders and the mods the Elite 4. (As to who the Champion would be...well, we'll figure that one out.) I suggested that we go even further then that, effectively creating our own IWBTP, where we'd mod the names (and hopefully sprites) of many pokemon to make them IWBTF-themed. For instance, perhaps a Quote Train would be a pokemon.

I quickly deduced that splitting attacks into physical/special from Gen 1-3 is far beyond our abilities here, and so we're probably going to be heading into D/P. From there, Kudo has volunteered his hex modifying capabilities, and I have volunteered searching around for hacking tools we can use (I've already found one particularly useful tool). Silver volunteered as well, so I figured I'd try to get a thread started to accomplish something.

So if you're not going to talk about this, then GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY THREAD.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on November 05, 2009, 09:39:55 pm
This sounds interesting. I'm not much of a hacker, but I can definitely give you my opinionation, as you may well know. And as for the champion, who else than Kayin? Or maybe The Kid.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: ybbald on November 05, 2009, 09:43:20 pm
make sure they're replayable leaders
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Silver on November 05, 2009, 09:44:56 pm
Liquid just blew my mind with the champion.

Also, if you are leading the project, Venser, then I am ready to help at any time, but I need direction as I know very little about what I am doing. And by very little I mean absolutely nothing besides the basics of pokemon we all know.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: ybbald on November 05, 2009, 09:49:24 pm
Rename the towns after the boards here
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on November 05, 2009, 10:12:10 pm
Sableye Wonderguard/Spiritomb Wonderguard has been said to be broken with Fire Fang (I have not confirmed this myself)


if this is planned for D/P/Pt. I would recommend just going through HG/SS instead when it comes out in English, but if everyone's too impatient...this project would take a good while anyway. Pokemon hacks still might be a better idea for the GBA instead (where we know it's do-able, NDS stuff is still pretty new)

still, don't expect me to try anything until the weekend, I'm busy now. I don't know as much as I seem, I can work my way around actually using a hex editor, and trying to logically piece together what means what, but that's pretty little.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: ybbald on November 05, 2009, 10:17:35 pm
Let's go with DP instead of D/P/Pt
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kloud on November 05, 2009, 10:34:00 pm
Now this is cool. I've never played the newer pokemon games so it'll be a whole new experience xD
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on November 05, 2009, 10:35:53 pm
Well, Kudo, this entire project is going to rely on your hex-editing skills heavily. So far as I know, that's the only way to change the names (and possibly sprites) of the gym leaders. That said, I can probably change the names myself, as that's not terribly difficult; it's finding the offsets for the sprites that may cause a problem.

Other then that:

I've discovered another problem that may come up with D/P. While using it on a computer with a less modern graphics card, the ROM lagged horribly and it wasn't a very enjoyable experience. After some skimming online, it appears that this is a problem inherant in the DS ROMs, so there's nothing we can do about that.

For that reason, I suggest that we go back and either do FR/LG or perhaps G/S or even Crystal.

Since we've pretty much ruled out D/P/Pt due to technical concerns, what should we do instead? I assume that nobody wants R/S, but that leaves us between G/S/C and FR/LG. Personally, it doesn't matter terribly to me, although I suppose I like FR/LG better because we'd have more slots for pokemon.

Oh, and Ybbald? Doing repeatable gym leaders would require some serious knowledge of hex code that we don't have. So it's not going to happen unless someone has created a hacking program that adds it to the hex code automatically (which I think is unlikely, but I won't discount it - there are a lot of hacking tools out there).
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Silver on November 05, 2009, 10:46:41 pm
I would vote Crystal because it's my favorite and we won't necessarily be coming up with a ton of pokemon. I'm betting the majority will be left as defaults.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kloud on November 05, 2009, 10:52:05 pm
Dibs on Viridian Gym Leader!
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: ybbald on November 05, 2009, 10:52:53 pm
psycic!
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on November 05, 2009, 10:55:11 pm
Emerald has repeatable gym leaders written into the game code as is. Lets use that. Dibs on a dragon type gym.

I can also work on game balance for you.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: OLDGREG on November 05, 2009, 10:59:29 pm
i call being a legendary pokemon
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Silver on November 05, 2009, 11:00:35 pm
I'm fine with being anyone...
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on November 05, 2009, 11:13:07 pm
Actually, I wanna be a superboss with a competative team! Just cause I want people to cry at me. ^^
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: DraconicDescendant on November 05, 2009, 11:25:33 pm
Emerald has repeatable gym leaders written into the game code as is. Lets use that. Dibs on a dragon type gym.

I can also work on game balance for you.

I think I would be more fitting to have a dragon type gym, wouldn't you think? But then again I'm not doing anything to contribute to this project.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Arkhanno on November 05, 2009, 11:34:04 pm
This is just my opinion, but I say the gym leaders should be: Evan, Nolan, Koppis, Yule, Kwiftee, tijitdamijit, Rad and ninjafetus. The rest of the regulars being either gym trainers or the strongest trainers in the field.

: show
I wanna be the beauty. Okay, bad joke.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on November 05, 2009, 11:34:44 pm
A dragon type gym couldn't use the most powerful options available unless we're trying to make this game mind numbingly hard.

Speaking of which, what do you guys think the difficulty/curve should be?

Beginning/Middle/Endgame?

Ark, you should be a pornstar!
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Yule on November 05, 2009, 11:34:47 pm
Hmm, I think having the Mods/Kayin as Elite Four/Champ has already been decided.
Do we call spots or do we go in some order?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on November 05, 2009, 11:41:26 pm
If I'm gonna be a leader, I call 8th gym!
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: DraconicDescendant on November 05, 2009, 11:50:27 pm
I call Generic Evil Team Leader!
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on November 05, 2009, 11:54:38 pm
I'm thinking the leveling curve would be the following for each gym. (Based on the geography of Emerald)

Gym 1: 13-14
2: 20-21
3: 34
4: 42
5: 50
6: 69
7: 78
8: 90
E4: 90-100

Too steep?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: DraconicDescendant on November 06, 2009, 12:00:01 am
If I remember correctly, the Elite Four tops out in the mid 60's.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on November 06, 2009, 12:04:05 am
I know, I was just contemplating a new difficulty.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on November 06, 2009, 12:12:57 am
I'm thinking the leveling curve would be the following for each gym. (Based on the geography of Emerald)

Gym 1: 13-14
2: 20-21
3: 34
4: 42
5: 50
6: 69
7: 78
8: 90
E4: 90-100

Too steep?

on a side note: if we go for the earlier games...Generation 2 is what I'm looking at, and what has been mentioned by Silver above. I believe it would be A LOT easier (hell, there are most likely tools that won't need any hex editing whatsoever...only the graphics would be severly dumbed)

what's more, there would be 16 gyms, more than enough, the 4 elite four, which we can keep as the mods, Champ/Lance- Kayin

But if it's like that, I demand Red as our Bonus Boss to be something totally unexpected (not the Guy, not Kayin, not one of us)

I'm thinking the leveling curve would be the following for each gym. (Based on the geography of Emerald)

Gym 1: 13-14
2: 20-21
3: 34
4: 42
5: 50
6: 69
7: 78
8: 90
E4: 90-100

Too steep?
and definitely too steep, I've played Touhoumon Lunatic Edition enough to know that >.<
as for Pokemon, obviously there's too many no matter what we choose and will basically be left as defaults except for 20-30 or so. And only a few moves changed (EQ = chance train?). Eck, still no real information. All I can say is don't get your hopes up too high yet...looking through some stuff, there are definitely sufficient enough tools for Gen 1-3
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: OLDGREG on November 06, 2009, 12:52:27 am
But if it's like that, I demand Red as our Bonus Boss to be something totally unexpected (not the Guy, not Kayin, not one of us)

anonymous the final boss of the internet
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Neo on November 06, 2009, 12:58:31 am
I Wanna Be The Oak
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on November 06, 2009, 01:00:42 am
Rollout as Quote Train?

I'll PM the idea for the bonus boss to you so the rest of the forum can be surpised.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on November 06, 2009, 01:08:19 am
Rollout as Quote Train?

yes, I couldn't have chosen that better...just beware the 3rd gym then
(Whitney originally had a rollout happy miltank...unless I change that)
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on November 06, 2009, 01:10:06 am
That was the idea. ;)

That Miltank was THE hardest fight in the game imo.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Neo on November 06, 2009, 01:10:14 am
I Wanna Be The Oak
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on November 06, 2009, 01:32:24 am
That was the idea. ;)

That Miltank was THE hardest fight in the game imo.
I don't know why everyone is like that...so the game throws in ONE basic strategy and suddenly it's the hardest fight in the game...guess near the end everyone is just far too over-leveled/over-prepared to notice stuff like Venasaur's Sunny Day & Solarbeam (or it just backfired too often with fire...then again, I had the tendency to ditch my starter, no Typhlosion for me). The way I play it with the curve against me, the game gets harder and harder as the enemies levels increase faster than my own, having to use a team of 40s and a few 50s against Blue, Red was pretty much the nightmare I screwed myself into.

Personally, I found Red to be the hardest fight in the game (due to the level curve, if you're still in the 50s, you're basically in for a fight so hard it's virtually impossible). Basically what happens if you decided to play the game and go "well...FUCK YOU LEVEL GRINDING, the trainers shall provide all the EXP I need!"

Works all the way up to Red, yeah, that 20 level jump becomes a huge "F U" at the end.

Then again, back on topic, I plan on expanding that F U just to be an ass, make the Kanto Trainers harder, everything up to the Elite Four is already alright level curve wise, it's just Kanto didn't really do much to prepare you for the REALLY difficult stuff. Kanto just sort of froze the curve, at level 50 for everything and the gym leaders. Then you'd get to Blue who'd have stuff 10 levels higher, Red 20 more than THAT. Still considering how I should change this...
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on November 06, 2009, 01:37:09 am
Miltank was hard because when I played the game as a kid, I'd ONLY use my starter (Cyndaquil, btw so it's super effective), so rollout raped me. Probably my fault, but all the other trainers were easy in comparison. (Exept Clair, but you have a legendary by then)
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Yule on November 06, 2009, 01:43:31 am
My favorite times in R/Y/B included using only a level 100 Butterfree for everything, and beating the champ's last pokemon with a level 74 metapod (used harden to outlast his moves). It is fun to dick around. :)
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Rad on November 06, 2009, 01:44:19 am
Evan suggested that we hack a pokemon ROM

That was me actually.

And I think if we pull this together, it could be a great project.

i know some places or certain other boards do this too.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on November 06, 2009, 01:46:20 am
My favorite times in R/Y/B included using only a level 100 Butterfree for everything, and beating the champ's last pokemon with a level 74 metapod (used harden to outlast his moves). It is fun to dick around. :)
I remember my Jiggly only run of blue version. Level 86 Jigglypuff Vs Mewtwo was epic.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Arkhanno on November 06, 2009, 02:02:58 am
Honestly, I would like to see a difficulty that gave you a run for your money (Quite literally). I don't mean first time through IWBTG kind of pokemon hack, but something difficult enough to say that you have to be a damn veteran of the series to beat it.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on November 06, 2009, 02:18:09 am
Pokemon ShinyGold X may have the difficulty you're talking about. Youtube it if you haven't heard of it.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Arkhanno on November 06, 2009, 02:25:33 am
I know of it. Fire Red Omega is similar in difficulty to what I'm talking about as well.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Banzai ☼ on November 06, 2009, 08:15:43 am
Sounds pretty awesome. I can send you a few custom sprites if you want. Thats about it though x.x
So yea, I call being the pokemon name changer guy, unless theres not going to be one  :'(
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Pokota on November 06, 2009, 08:45:33 am
What's this? A sableye with wonderguard?

Meet my Toxic Leechseed Venusaur!
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: DraconicDescendant on November 06, 2009, 09:08:14 am
Meet my modded lvl 100 Dugtrio that knows Transform!
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on November 06, 2009, 09:24:30 am
Meet my modded lvl 100 Dugtrio that knows Transform!

Ah! I almost forgot Kayin's Dugtrio penis!
Modded Dugtrio for Champion's max pokemon GET.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: ybbald on November 06, 2009, 10:41:07 am
Quote
My favorite times in R/Y/B included using only a level 100 Butterfree for everything, and beating the champ's last pokemon with a level 74 metapod (used harden to outlast his moves). It is fun to dick around. Smiley
You can make NPC pokemon run out of PP?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on November 06, 2009, 11:30:53 am
Evan suggested that we hack a pokemon ROM

That was me actually.

And I think if we pull this together, it could be a great project.

i know some places or certain other boards do this too.
Whoops. Typo'd in the wrong name XD

Honestly, I would like to see a difficulty that gave you a run for your money (Quite literally). I don't mean first time through IWBTG kind of pokemon hack, but something difficult enough to say that you have to be a damn veteran of the series to beat it.
I'm thinking we should up the difficulty some, but not make it terribly hard. (Basically, what Kudo is saying; fix the parts that were boring because they were too easy, but leave the leveling curve intact otherwise).

Ark actually sent me a link that had all the tools that Pokemon Omega used; ironically, I already had installed half of them :P

That said, thanks, Ark. I'll look into the other tools that I haven't already downloaded.

Sounds pretty awesome. I can send you a few custom sprites if you want. Thats about it though x.x
So yea, I call being the pokemon name changer guy, unless theres not going to be one  :'(
That sounds fine; you could pretty much be any NPC in the game, if you're willing to contribute some sprites. I'm thinking that's going to be the hardest part about this; finding the offsets for the gym leader sprites and then getting sprites to swap them out with.

Quote
My favorite times in R/Y/B included using only a level 100 Butterfree for everything, and beating the champ's last pokemon with a level 74 metapod (used harden to outlast his moves). It is fun to dick around. Smiley
You can make NPC pokemon run out of PP?
How did you not know that? >.>

I'd say we definitely have the support to actually do this. However, to decide what members should be gym leaders I think we should take some kind of vote. How we would do that, I dunno. We could have everyone rank 1-8 and then try to go off that, but it might get a little complicated. We'll figure something out.

After next weekend (not this weekend but the one after that) I should really be able to start working on this.

The first thing we really need to decide, though, is the version we'll be working on. We can rule out Gen 4 due to lack of the proper tools to do anything. I'll just follow up with that and rule out Emerald; even though it's technically Gen 3 it's more like a Gen 4 game in terms of tool availability; the hacking tools that work on R/S don't usually work on Emerald (unless they've been heavily updated to do so). So it looks like repeatable gym leaders are out.

That leaves us with basically either G/S/C or Fr/Lg (since Gen 3 doesn't look all that popular, at least to me :P). I'll look around later and see if there are sufficient tools that are compatible with Crystal to do this project; if there are, I see no reason not to do Crystal, since it has Kanto inside of it.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on November 06, 2009, 12:59:24 pm
Fire Red/Leaf Green would be best imo.

Classic+Gen 3 Pokes.

Mod the national dex into the inventory at the start so we can use all the pokes when constructing teams.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on November 06, 2009, 01:59:26 pm
I wanna be a superboss. Or at the very least a difficult trainer. Heheheh.

Seriously, though, if you guys need some help in the innovation department, just ask. I'm not much of a hacker, but I love helping design and plan things like this.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: yoshi on November 06, 2009, 03:21:52 pm
I'd like to be a boss ^_^
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on November 06, 2009, 03:24:27 pm
I wanna be a superboss. Or at the very least a difficult trainer. Heheheh.

Seriously, though, if you guys need some help in the innovation department, just ask. I'm not much of a hacker, but I love helping design and plan things like this.
I was thinking Liquid could be Hydro Pump. :p
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kloud on November 06, 2009, 07:04:52 pm
<--- still call viridian
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on November 06, 2009, 07:24:35 pm
<--- still call viridian

Fine, but if so, we're not changing your pokemon or sprite...just name.

As for where I place myself, I feel like keeping that a secret (No, it's not at Mt. Silver...we save the superboss for that)
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kloud on November 06, 2009, 07:37:45 pm
awh. Well, fair enough. Still better than nothing ;)
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on November 06, 2009, 08:17:25 pm
I wanna be a superboss. Or at the very least a difficult trainer. Heheheh.
Yeah. You and the rest of the forum.

I think Liquid for Hydro Pump is a good idea, though :P

I didn't get around to investigating Crystal hacking tools but I'll make sure I do it sometime tonight to see if we can do it. Crystal gives us access to 16 gym leaders (which should cover most regulars).
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Pokota on November 06, 2009, 08:31:44 pm
I request to be the cooltrainer right outside of Mt. Silver.

Compared to the others in the forum, I'm not geared for metagaming.

: team • show


Male Venusaur LV. 55
Razor Leaf
Leech Seed
Toxic
Cut

Male Vaporeon LV. 59
Surf
Aurora Beam
Bite
Acid Armor

Female Marowak Lv. 56
Bonemarang
Bone Club
Double Edge
Strength

Female Beedrill Lv. 58
Twin Needle
Pin Missile
Endeavor (if available) / Toxic
Brick Break (if available) / Rock Smash

[/spoiler]
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on November 06, 2009, 08:38:04 pm
I'm pretty sure we can fit that, Pokota.

Also, I've found a Gym Editor for Crystal; even though most G/S tools don't work with Crystal, I think there's plenty of tools that do work with it that we can do this.

So, the choice is made: We're going to hack IWBTP off of Crystal.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on November 06, 2009, 09:03:07 pm
I'm pretty sure we can fit that, Pokota.

Also, I've found a Gym Editor for Crystal; even though most G/S tools don't work with Crystal, I think there's plenty of tools that do work with it that we can do this.

So, the choice is made: We're going to hack IWBTP off of Crystal.

I just a got a crapload of tools for G/S so this works I guess. Although I'm actually hacking Silver ._. I can change to Crystal (I haven't actually done anything yet)
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: GuyWithPasta on November 06, 2009, 09:06:21 pm
Can I be the grass gym leader? If so, can I have a tangela on my team?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Neo on November 06, 2009, 09:09:24 pm
I Wanna Be The Oak
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kloud on November 06, 2009, 09:13:31 pm
First to call.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on November 06, 2009, 09:18:41 pm
Can I be the grass gym leader? If so, can I have a tangela on my team?

You wish to replace Erica? what character sprite do you want put there, same as your avay?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Neo on November 06, 2009, 09:39:12 pm
First to call.
When did you call Professor Oak?? O_o
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on November 06, 2009, 09:44:59 pm
First to call.
When did you call Professor Oak?? O_o

no, he called Blue (aka Gary, the Viridian Gym Leader after Giovanni's disappearance)
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Neo on November 06, 2009, 09:46:24 pm
Ohhh....

Well can I be PROFESSOR Oak then? Or Professor Birch, or Maple, or Willow, or whatever professor they've got in Crystal?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on November 06, 2009, 09:47:11 pm
Ohhh....

Well can I be PROFESSOR Oak then?

That can be arranged...mehbeh
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: OLDGREG on November 06, 2009, 09:47:28 pm
gary (motherfucking) oak has to be the rival
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Neo on November 06, 2009, 09:52:15 pm
OOO OO PLEASE CAN THIS HAPPEN!?

Can all Pikachu's be replaced with "LeatherBelt"?? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7k03s2x9ME&feature=related")

Watch till at least 2mins, when pikachu appears
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on November 06, 2009, 09:58:38 pm
What exactly are the differences between G/S and Crystal? It's been so long I forget.

On another note, I dunno what I want to be. >.> Gym Leader would be alright, but I think I'd rather be a Pokemon.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Dagnarok on November 06, 2009, 10:03:27 pm
I've never played the Gen 2 or 3 games.  :P
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Arkhanno on November 06, 2009, 10:03:35 pm
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_Crystal_Version
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on November 06, 2009, 10:07:53 pm
The only problem I can think of with doing Crystal is the fact that the pokemon sprites are animated, which may cause problems if we try to change the sprite. Therefore, I suggest that we try to change a sprite of a pokemon first thing; if we can do it and not screw up the game, we'll continue with Crystal; if not, we'll just backtrack to Silver.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Silver on November 07, 2009, 12:27:58 am
I would still like to do Crystal, if we can find a way to animate the sprites, it would be fine. Also, I should be at Mt. Silver...
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: ybbald on November 07, 2009, 12:29:14 am
Tay wants tentacle rape
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on November 07, 2009, 03:00:47 pm
Here are our objectives:

-^Modify Gym Leaders and Elite 4 (and Champion) names
-Modify Gym Leaders and Elite 4 (and Champion) sprites
-*Modify wild Pokemon data to make more pokemon available in the beginning
-*Modify terrain to create different and interesting maps
-^Modify names of pokemon
-Modify sprites of renamed pokemon to create IWBTF-themed pokemon
-Modify move names and sprites to create IWBTF-themed moves
-^Modify names of trainers to fit the rest of the regulars
-Modify pokemon of trainers, Gym Leaders and E4 (and Champion) to make them fit the renamed members

^ are objectives that are known to be completable through hex editing
* are objectives that are completable through Crystal Map (a tool I've downloaded and have been working with)

According to Koppis' List of Regulars (which I updated), there are 30 regulars. Minus 20 for the mods that become the Elite 4 and the 16 Gym Leaders, that leaves us with 10.
Alpha Centauri
Arkhanno
Cat
DraconicDescendant
dsk
Ellipsis
Evan
guywithpasta
Koppis
Komaku
Kudo
Kwiftee
Liquid
Matonen
Neo
Ninjafetus
Nolan
OLDGREG
Rad
Raekuul
Ragnarok
SilentLoner
Silverrida
TAYLOOP
Tervez
tijitdamijit
Venser
Ybbald
Yuletiderz
Yuping/ChronoFox
Since Pokota already declared that he wants to be a trainer (which we can do, probably), that drops us down to 9 left.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: yoshi on November 07, 2009, 03:32:32 pm
I'm not there D:<
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on November 07, 2009, 03:43:45 pm
say, Venser, can you list all the tools you have as far as this? I got a mix of tools (although not sure if all of them will work with Crystal) as well as some damn good ones for GBA.

Here's what I got:
: show

GSC: Basic Sprite Editor (may not work with Crystal)- Edits Pokemon back/front/shiny sprites, and (in-battle) Trainers including the gym leaders
Character Sprite Editor- Edits on map characters (Pre-battle trainers, NPCs, walking, bicycle) also may not work with Crystal
Hack-o-Matic- screws with the techincal data like money, pokemon names and stat, edits attacks names power and abilities, etc. there's also a map editor but I don't think we can really do much with that

Then the GBA ones-
Advance Text- Edits pretty much ALL the dialouge in the game, not sure about in battle
Icon Editor- This would be a bit more helpful if it were in English, but it changes stuff like the pokemon sprite during PC-mode
Item Editor- We kinda won't need this...hell, if it's been decided on Gen 2, forget these


I'll grab more tools later, otherwise, I'm still looking into Gen 4, but it's not too successful, I'd be able to change some text and sprites at best

scratch that, now I have more (Crystal Specific tools)...I'll post more later, not sure if we'll even need Hex Editing at this rate (which is good since I know very little about it)

EDIT: Side note, do you think one of the mods can move this to "Other Games"?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on November 07, 2009, 04:30:29 pm
A move to Other Games would be good, so if a mod could do that for us, it'd be great.

As for the tools: I have downloaded a set of tools, but it would appear that none of them (except Crystal Map) are compatible with Crystal. Unfortunate, but there you have it. Actually, now that you mention it, AdvanceText would make this entire thing (except sprite editing) extremely quick and easy. This makes me want to move to an Advance game >.>

As for Gen 4: I discounted it because DS emulators are extremely laggy if you don't have a really nice graphics card. I didn't notice this at first because I downloaded the ROM onto a PC with a really nice GForce, but when I tried it on a regular ol' computer it was laggy as hell.

The reason I picked Crystal over FR/LG was originally because there are twice as many gym leaders and I had thought that GB hacking tools were more advanced, but since finding out there is no GB equivalent of AdvanceText...well, it makes me want to switch over. I'm fine with having less honorary positions if it means we have to do way less work...

I did download AdvanceText, but for some reason it is missing a file and doesn't work. However, from the tutorials I've seen of it, it definitely would make all the text-changing a snap.

Plus, if we do FR/LG over Crystal, we don't have to worry about the moving sprites issue. Definitely looks like doing FR/LG would save us a lot of time and headaches, and the graphics are a hell of a lot better.

Alright, so I'm thinking FR/LG should be our new choice. Which one should it be? I mean, not that it really matters, but I only have a LG ROM, so if you'd prefer to do FR let me know so I can download one.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kloud on November 07, 2009, 04:40:29 pm
Tay wants tentacle rape
Its hard to want rape.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Dagnarok on November 07, 2009, 06:24:22 pm
Bump because I did something.  >_>
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: dcx666 on November 07, 2009, 06:54:53 pm
huh 6 pages of reply's and i havent noticed!!! what's going on?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on November 07, 2009, 06:59:36 pm
huh 6 pages of reply's and i havent noticed!!! what's going on?

the topic was moved from elsewhere on the forum
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: dcx666 on November 07, 2009, 07:10:40 pm
huh 6 pages of reply's and i havent noticed!!! what's going on?

the topic was moved from elsewhere on the forum

Ohhhhhh
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on November 07, 2009, 07:20:09 pm
I started it in Crap!, not knowing if we were going to have enough support to actually do it.

Turns out, we do.

So anyway, Kudo, would you prefer FR or LG? As I said before, it makes no difference to me, but AdvanceText will make this a hell of a lot easier. I'm willing to sacrifice 8 Gym Leaders in order to get a huge graphical update and make the whole project easier.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: dcx666 on November 07, 2009, 07:27:11 pm
okay i guess it a good idea to read all 6 pages of text to get up to speed...:(
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on November 07, 2009, 07:57:38 pm
I just had a flash of inspiration for what I want to be.

Eevee. With all of my different names and avatars, it seems like a good idea to me :P

Eevee->Mutavault
Flareon->Darigaaz
Vaporeon->Venser
Jolteon->Crocoduck
Umbreon->Higure
Espeon->Pastamancer
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: yoshi on November 07, 2009, 08:33:29 pm
I call LakeOfRageMon
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kloud on November 07, 2009, 08:50:26 pm
Im gonna have a higure.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on November 08, 2009, 03:00:20 pm
Well, I basically have all the tools...(doing this for Firered btw)

Now I'm just debating how to set up Kayin's team...not like he'd have any NORMAL pokemon...I have a general idea for a good number of the slots...

The only things left are to organize what is going to be changed, and the actual execution of the project.

List of Changes or Requests (by user):
Yoshi- LakeofRageMon (wait, we're not doing Gen 2 anymore...hmmm, we can throw in something)
Venser- Eevee&Evolutions of Eevee
Kayin- Champion
Elite Four- Rag, SL, Kitty, dsk (in that order btw)
Legendaries- TBA (not to be mistaken with TBD)
Gym Leaders- TBD (there are only 8...and Giovanni is fought quite a few times)
Other Regulars- TBD (location in game and such)
Kudo- ??? (TBA)
Neo- Professor Oak


General Changes (that aren't already listed above):
Modify wild Pokemon data to make more pokemon available in the beginning
---(insert those changes here...don't make it too unreasonable now, it's like we're going to let skarmorys appear out of nowhere, keep in mind some won't be possible to get until post national dex. I learned that from Touhoumon)
Modify terrain to create different and interesting maps
---(eck...it's doable but...map editors are a pain in the ass, I guess we'll do it so the project won't be entirely half-assed)
Modify names of pokemon
---(insert said changes here)
Modify sprites of renamed pokemon to create IWBTF-themed pokemon
---(same as above)
Modify move names and sprites to create IWBTF-themed moves
---Quote Train to Rollout, (insert others I forgot)

This post will be edited later
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: yoshi on November 08, 2009, 03:04:50 pm
Kayin's Pokemon-Dugtrio Penis, ???
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: yoshi on November 08, 2009, 03:15:41 pm
Make it so we can get the pokemon that are event only, like, put the event items in game some where.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kloud on November 08, 2009, 08:53:35 pm
Your doing first gen now?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on November 08, 2009, 09:12:14 pm
Kudo, if you don't already have AdvanceMap, download it. It should make any minor redesign of maps quick n' easy. If you don't understand it, just click on the blocks on the right and then click on the actual map in the area you want to replace in order to do it. I'm not saying we should try and create our own maps, but making the paths through caves and forests and stuff different will keep the game from being just a made-over lame version of Pokemon.

Your doing first gen now?
Third gen, the remakes of first gen.

And Yoshi, I'll see what we can do about making event pokemon available. I'm pretty sure that changing them to be IWBTG-themed would be awesome, but putting the event items in-game would be difficult. Perhaps we could just add them as wild pokemon to high-leveled areas.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on November 08, 2009, 09:21:04 pm
alright, got Advance Map. the one I was using earlier was a bit screwy and incomplete (or was that for GSC...oh well, no big deal)

and I'll start swapping sprites and such...next week...too much other work to do...besides, I don't feel like taking out my large folder of sprites...(not that large, there's only a couple hundred sprites in it)
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Pokota on November 08, 2009, 09:23:31 pm
The team I announced earlier? I was trying to beat the Kanto Elite Four with it.

Trying and failing, but still trying.

Also, I think the public bus system ate my copy of Fire Red. Sadface.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on November 08, 2009, 09:59:55 pm
My basement ate my copy, but that's okay! There's the less-legal option of ROMs.

And Kudo, how do you want to divide up the work? I would very much like it if you handled all of the messiness with sprites, but I'm fine with doing map editing and wild pokemon editing.

Oh, and for those who don't know, FR has repeatable Elite 4, so that'll be solid content right there. (Rag/SL/dsk/Kitty/Kayin is how I imagine it to be right now).
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Silver on November 08, 2009, 11:24:38 pm
You two shouldn't be the only ones doing work. Seriously, how can I help?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Komaku on November 08, 2009, 11:44:59 pm
im confused 2nd gen or 3rd gen?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on November 08, 2009, 11:56:05 pm
hmm...well, I'd kind of rather not deal with the map, sure I'll take the sprite work.

I can also take a good portion of the text work, seeing how well the editor is able to deal with it

There are a few of the pokemon I'd rather edit myself...but I'm pretty sure you have your ideas and should edit what you want. Also if we're working with this collaberatively, it might be best to just send the ROM back and forth after changes, or make a changelog, we don't want to be making the same changes again too often...

You two shouldn't be the only ones doing work. Seriously, how can I help?

suggestions on what to do, help me find sprites (when there are sprites we need to find)...

ugh...not much to say and too tired and lazy to do much now...

or you can help but editing the attacks themselves

im confused 2nd gen or 3rd gen?
3.5 to be exact: FireRed and LeafGreen
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on November 09, 2009, 12:05:23 am
I absolutely despise working with sprites. The very thought of it makes me shiver >.>

So me not doing that would make me very happy. I like map editing as well, so that works out. And yeah, the reason I wanted to divide up the work now was so that we wouldn't have to keep sending a rom back and forth. I'll get to work seeing how I can make some minor map redesigns to keep it fresh. And text work shouldn't be a big deal; with AdvanceText it should be a snap, so that's less 'work' and more 'six seconds of searching, then two seconds of typing'.

The big problems I see are finding/making the sprites we need (which, as I said, is the bane of my existence), as well as the move editing. I'm not sure if AdvanceText edits move names; we'll have to look into that and see.

Silver: We're just dividing up the major portions of the work here, and then probably deciding some more specific objectives besides our general ones. Once we get that done, we'll see what you can do...although I'd greatly appreciate it if you help with sprites because I hate them <.< >.>
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Silver on November 09, 2009, 12:21:04 am
Hey, pshhh, hey Venser:

: show
SPRITES: (http://www.pokemontrash.com/images/1184620195.png)


Anyway, Sure I can help work on those, except I have little artistic talent...
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on November 09, 2009, 12:24:53 am
We don't need new pokemon sprites, we need sprites for the new gym leaders, elite 4, and the pokemon we are replacing with IWBTF-themed things (such as Eevee and that whole line being replaced with me...yes, I realize the irony that I, the sprite-hater, will require the most by far <.<).
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Silver on November 09, 2009, 12:31:58 am
It was just a joke :P

I actually got that pic by typing sprites into google. It was just coincidental
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Drew on November 09, 2009, 11:44:29 am
I just now discovered this thread & am jerking off at the thought of this idea. For those of you who were like:   Z0MG! WTF!? I'm just kidding. Is there any way, even though I don't post a lot, that I could be a Team Rocket/Galaxy/Magma/Aqua Leader?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on November 09, 2009, 07:55:37 pm
I just now discovered this thread & am jerking off at the thought of this idea. For those of you who were like:   Z0MG! WTF!? I'm just kidding. Is there any way, even though I don't post a lot, that I could be a Team Rocket/Galaxy/Magma/Aqua Leader?

Since this is Gen 1...sorry, Giovanni's taken
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on November 09, 2009, 08:09:25 pm
I've been working with AdvanceMap to create a new version of Viridian Forest. It is a little tedious, but I enjoy doing it. When I'm done, I'll post the edited rom here so people can check it out and critique it. Speed of completion will depend a lot upon how much I can get done in class this week, though; I have a lot of Lighting Crew practices as well as matinées and opening night. We'll see.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: yoshi on November 09, 2009, 08:19:05 pm
I can do simple sprite editing, like, making a cabbage out of electrode or something. I might be able to work with the small sprites, like the over world ones.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on November 09, 2009, 08:34:29 pm
Your sprite editing will be fine, we're not looking for masterpieces here, just sprites that get the point across.

Actually, cabbage electrode sounds awesome. How about we turn Voltorb and Electrode into cabbages in homage to YBAQ? That's the kind of IWBTF-themed change that we're looking for. If you could make some awesome sprites for that, Yoshi, I'd be happy, but talk to Kudo about actually implementing them...as I've said, sprites and I don't get along.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: yoshi on November 09, 2009, 08:35:31 pm
That was what I was trying to influence
>_>
<_<
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on November 09, 2009, 09:07:10 pm
I finished the Viridian Forest redesign much quicker then I expected. Even after moving events around and editing movement permission, I got pretty quick at it after a while. Anyway, I would attach it here, but it's too big for the forum's size limit. Anyone have any suggestions as to where I should download it?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: yoshi on November 09, 2009, 09:08:14 pm
box.net (http://box.net) is a good collaboration site
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on November 09, 2009, 09:12:56 pm
Actually, I downloaded it to drop.io, and you can get the file here (http://drop.io/viridianforestredesign#).
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on November 09, 2009, 09:55:19 pm
OH HEY GUYS LOOK I FOUND THE POKEMON THREAD
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Storyyeller on November 09, 2009, 11:41:42 pm
Can I be Porygon?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on November 10, 2009, 12:36:31 am
Can I be Porygon?

I see no objections or reasons why not.

I've taken a look at the room anyway. Viridian Forest is looking pretty good, again I can't start anything until tomorrow or the weekend however (Wed. is off from school but I might be visiting a friend out of town)
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on November 10, 2009, 09:59:24 am
When I do the real thing I'll keep the area more seamless; I used the smaller type of tree that looked out of place to save time at the end because I got tired of constructing the bigger trees out of multiple tiles. >.>

Also, I looked at it myself and I messed up the scripting of one of the NPCs there; he keeps running upwards into the tree. I'll fix that as well.

EDIT: Fixed it all, made it look all pretty and stuff. I found the tiles for the 2x3 trees, so I remade the area using those (since they look more natural there, as they're already the border tile and that's what they used originally).

Unfortunately, I can't figure out how to create an event. I'm added a house to Pallet Town (which I'll rename sometime) and I'm going to put some cool stuff in it, but without knowing how to make events I can't make a warp from the door to the house interior.

Here's (http://drop.io/o6bsrwk#) the new download link.

EDIT EDIT: Figured out how to make warps, but scripting events is still beyond my grasp. We'll see how it goes; tomorrow or thursday I may have some time to just look around for tutorials.

EDIT EDIT EDIT: Figured out an easy way to add event items in-game; Kudo, factor that in. We'll easily be able to get players to the event areas.

EDIT EDIT EDIT EDIT: No adding a house to Pallet Town. It's just too damn hard and time-consuming.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Arkhanno on November 10, 2009, 10:57:10 pm
I do like the new forest, but
: show
having two paths going nowhere makes me think, "What was the point of that?"
Other than that, I loved it.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on November 11, 2009, 08:55:15 am
Ah, that makes sense. I'll see if I can make it a little more interesting...actually, I'll probably just put better items at the end of those paths to make it less boring (or at least more worth it).

EDIT: Kudo, if you need offsets for trainer scripts, I can find them through AdvanceMap. For instance, Lorelei's offset is $1625DC
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Neo on November 11, 2009, 09:38:35 pm
How bout a wild pokemon being "Spongebob" or "Zombie Alien Dinosaur with a Monocle" (Zadwam) from the DD mafia game?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Arkhanno on November 11, 2009, 09:43:10 pm
Speaking of mafia games: Mr. Six should be placed near the truck.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on November 11, 2009, 10:27:59 pm
I've been wondering what we should do with the truck...and IWBTM will definitely show up, I'm just not sure quite how yet. I've got a few ideas, but we'll see.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on November 12, 2009, 02:26:49 pm
One word:

Kira.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on November 12, 2009, 03:20:26 pm
One word:

No.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Silver on November 12, 2009, 03:23:24 pm
3 words and a symbol:

Sudowodo = Tree Stump
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on November 12, 2009, 05:02:41 pm
Yeah, I was thinking that :P

I was also considering trying to make Team Rocket into Team Mafia, but that'd probably be too much work.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on November 12, 2009, 05:05:13 pm
The move dragon dance should be renamed "rapestick time". >.>

Sorry I haven't been as active here, I couldn't find the thread.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on November 13, 2009, 09:20:12 am
You should make Rollout "Doomtrain".
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Silver on November 13, 2009, 06:35:19 pm
Welcome to the social, Liquid.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on November 13, 2009, 08:40:41 pm
You should make Rollout "Doomtrain".

already planned for quote train

anyway...I just got grounded recently and won't be as active on the computer so I won't be able to do much for the next few weeks. Continue with the map work but I'll try to gather sprites every here and there, editing them in is the easy part.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Pokota on November 13, 2009, 11:27:29 pm
Ice Ball is Doomtrain, methinks.

Also, an easier party than my Kanto Champ Team:

: Female Trainer "Loli" (she leiks mudkipz and needs tuna) • show

Swampert Lv.35
Surf
Strength
Water Gun
Mud Shot

Mightyena Lv.35
Bite
Rock Smash
Swagger
Thief

Gardevoir Lv.35
Psychic
Calm Mind
Confusion
Imprison

Lairon Lv.36
Toxic
Iron Defense
Metal Claw
Iron Tail

Ninjask Lv.36
Fury Cutter
Swords Dance
Dig <-Yes, it is legal for Ninjask to know Dig, so long as the paired Shedinja also knows it ;)
Slash

Crobat Lv.36
Wing Attack
Confuse Ray
Fly
Steel Wing

Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on November 13, 2009, 11:47:56 pm
Any map that has a large number of events is exceedingly hard (if not impossible) for me to edit. Things like routes and Viridian Forest are fine. Silph Co. and the Rocket Hideout are not. I'll see what changes I can make, but without being able to read or change the scripts, it's extremely difficult to make changes that won't screw up the scripts. So those areas will have small changes, or maybe just changes in areas with no scripts or scripts that are simple enough that I can figure them out (like a receive-item script).
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Rad on November 14, 2009, 12:22:47 am
how about this idea?

So when you beat whoever liquid is, he says "I'm still better than you" and then you say "quit lying liquid"

or have Liquid Snake a trainer, and do the same thing.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on November 14, 2009, 12:24:15 am
I'll look into it, but that would be done in AdvanceText, so it's more under Kudo's province.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on November 14, 2009, 01:36:40 pm
how about this idea?

So when you beat whoever liquid is, he says "I'm still better than you" and then you say "quit lying liquid"

I lol'd.

You still need to put Doomtrain somewhere in there. Like Fire Spin.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on November 16, 2009, 11:01:10 am
I redesigned some of Mt. Moon. Mostly cosmetic changes, since I can't really deal with the events on the 3rd floor, but it's interesting. Hopefully I'll be able to do the same with the other event-ridden areas...but Mt. Moon's events are pretty basic, while unfortunately most other areas are much more complicated.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Pokota on November 16, 2009, 02:03:27 pm
I'll see if I can rope some people from Pokecommunity (http://www.pokecommunity.com/) to help us out with the events. At the very least, I'll be able to get an advanced event editing guide.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on November 16, 2009, 02:16:58 pm
I wish I knew how to do most of this shit.

The most complicated stuff I've used is FRAXY and the Neverwinter Nights world editor...
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: MrRTheGuy on November 16, 2009, 04:56:26 pm
I beg of you, make MISSING.NO the final boss!!!
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Pokota on November 16, 2009, 06:53:24 pm
: Unrelated Plot • show
The story, as of 6/16/09, is that you're going around and winning the badges to compete in the Dariath Conference. Only, three badges in, the character's mom gets killed in a scrap with some newbs from Team Anorith when they try to rob her. From there, it's a Roaring Rampage of Revenge against Anorith Admin Sparky - only he's not the one in charge of the rogues that killed ma. Two more gyms, and then you get another lead on an Anorith Admin, Rocky. Not much of a surprise that he's not the guy in charge of them, either. So, after giving Rocky a sound thrashing, he offers you a position as an Anorith Admin, not unlike the guy from Nugget Bridge.

*Inhale* The last three badges can be done in any order, but when you try to go to Victory Road, you find that you do, in fact, need all the HMs to get through the route before there, including one that was stolen from the home town. Turns out that mama was holding it for a friend, and that the idiots that killed her were supposed to just get in and take the HM (Yet to be decided, I need one that's not flash AND isn't learned naturally by a 'mon). So, once again, you go off and thrash an Anorith Admin, Sandy. Turns out that Sandy had been acting in the place of the Founder, who had been missing ever since that man from Kanto challenged her. That was three years ago. In addition to that, Sandy had turned over the killers - but not the HM - to the authorities once the news of the death got out.

So, satisfied with this, and in posession of the lost HM, our hero sets off to challenge the Champion, Himeko. But, that's only part of the story. Becuase, once the title of Champion passes from Himeko to our hero, some foreigners decide that it's time to challenge "the strongest trainer in Dariath." They include Jasmine, Lance, someone who had sent most of the Gym Leaders to Dariath to begin with, the former champion's boyfriend, and the former champion's younger sister.

We're still not done, because Yumeko (Himeko's younger sister) mentions something about Interpol coming and investigating a fugitive from Kanto who came to Dariath three years ago... our hero's interest piqued, and a distant memory from the battle with Sandy reawakened, we set out to join Interpol's Dariath branch. TO join, we have to start by "finding the Ekans in the Bracken", and ending with "Sharing the moonlight with one of infinite possibilities".

After that, we get a map from Sandy that shows a small Island, as well as a note saying "I found this map in HER old desk... please investigate." Taking a boat from Tropica, you sail north "until the sun sinks no further". On this frozen island, you confront Giovanni - as well as the Founder and first rival of the previous champion, one who founded Team Anorith for the sole reason of discovering Himeko's closest secret.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on November 16, 2009, 09:16:28 pm
I'll see if I can rope some people from Pokecommunity (http://www.pokecommunity.com/) to help us out with the events. At the very least, I'll be able to get an advanced event editing guide.

forgot to mention, already went there to pick up all the tools

: Unrelated Plot • show
The story, as of 6/16/09, is that you're going around and winning the badges to compete in the Dariath Conference. Only, three badges in, the character's mom gets killed in a scrap with some newbs from Team Anorith when they try to rob her. From there, it's a Roaring Rampage of Revenge against Anorith Admin Sparky - only he's not the one in charge of the rogues that killed ma. Two more gyms, and then you get another lead on an Anorith Admin, Rocky. Not much of a surprise that he's not the guy in charge of them, either. So, after giving Rocky a sound thrashing, he offers you a position as an Anorith Admin, not unlike the guy from Nugget Bridge.

*Inhale* The last three badges can be done in any order, but when you try to go to Victory Road, you find that you do, in fact, need all the HMs to get through the route before there, including one that was stolen from the home town. Turns out that mama was holding it for a friend, and that the idiots that killed her were supposed to just get in and take the HM (Yet to be decided, I need one that's not flash AND isn't learned naturally by a 'mon). So, once again, you go off and thrash an Anorith Admin, Sandy. Turns out that Sandy had been acting in the place of the Founder, who had been missing ever since that man from Kanto challenged her. That was three years ago. In addition to that, Sandy had turned over the killers - but not the HM - to the authorities once the news of the death got out.

So, satisfied with this, and in posession of the lost HM, our hero sets off to challenge the Champion, Himeko. But, that's only part of the story. Becuase, once the title of Champion passes from Himeko to our hero, some foreigners decide that it's time to challenge "the strongest trainer in Dariath." They include Jasmine, Lance, someone who had sent most of the Gym Leaders to Dariath to begin with, the former champion's boyfriend, and the former champion's younger sister.

We're still not done, because Yumeko (Himeko's younger sister) mentions something about Interpol coming and investigating a fugitive from Kanto who came to Dariath three years ago... our hero's interest piqued, and a distant memory from the battle with Sandy reawakened, we set out to join Interpol's Dariath branch. TO join, we have to start by "finding the Ekans in the Bracken", and ending with "Sharing the moonlight with one of infinite possibilities".

After that, we get a map from Sandy that shows a small Island, as well as a note saying "I found this map in HER old desk... please investigate." Taking a boat from Tropica, you sail north "until the sun sinks no further". On this frozen island, you confront Giovanni - as well as the Founder and first rival of the previous champion, one who founded Team Anorith for the sole reason of discovering Himeko's closest secret.


text wise that looks pretty simple, as long as I can keep the character count right (not a problem)

But for now this progress is going to be very inefficient as a team, still, I need to get to gathering the right sprites for this (I'll test em too) for the next week when I get to a point I'm not that busy (friday?)
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on November 16, 2009, 09:44:46 pm
Just let me know when you're going to start working with sprites, Kudo, and I'll download the latest version of my AdvanceMap modified rom so neither of us have to make the same changes twice.

Oh, and another little bonus I'm going to throw in: It'll be possible to catch all the starters at level 1, but they'll be available only later, not early on. And I won't announce where they are.

Although I may tell Kudo :P
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on November 17, 2009, 02:11:12 pm
Oh, and another little bonus I'm going to throw in: It'll be possible to catch all the starters at level 1, but they'll be available only later, not early on. And I won't announce where they are.

Awesome! I always wanted to have all of the starters in a Pokemon game.

On another note. We could name ghost-type pokemans based off of Guest. I.E. Gengar could be Hacking Guest, etc.

Edit: Can we make /b/tard a class of random trainer? Like Pokefans or Bug-Catchers? And name the whale pokemon "Explodet"?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on November 17, 2009, 04:56:09 pm
The whale thing I think is definitely doable.

As for renaming a trainer class...we'll have to see. I'm not sure if AdvanceText edits that.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on November 17, 2009, 06:58:19 pm
Hah, cool.

Oh, and you could name pidgey (Or its equivilant) Loopy. And it evolves into Biplane. =D
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on November 17, 2009, 07:02:02 pm
Which evolves into 'randa?

I think it's doable. We just need sprites for the planes.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on November 17, 2009, 11:02:40 pm
Ooh, I hadn't even thought of having the plane sprites. That would be badass.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Silver on November 17, 2009, 11:13:59 pm
I have no idea what "'randa" really is, but I think if you can make this blue, it'll work.

(http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/7633/planef150005hf8.png)
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on November 17, 2009, 11:30:29 pm
Randa's more like a spaceship.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on November 17, 2009, 11:34:31 pm
I have no idea what "'randa" really is, but I think if you can make this blue, it'll work.

(http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/7633/planef150005hf8.png)

Colors aren't as flat as I hoped, but I managed to save it to a bitmap of 24 colors which definitely works for the GBA. Recoloring will only take a minute or two, but I'd recommend looking up the actual thing...still lazy and working on other things atm...
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on November 18, 2009, 08:44:51 am
I can't see the picture from school, but guessing from Liquid's reaction it isn't actually Miranda. I'll see if I can get some real pictures when I get home.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on November 18, 2009, 09:17:11 am
It looks like some kind of military jet.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on November 18, 2009, 03:09:16 pm
I have no idea what "'randa" really is, but I think if you can make this blue, it'll work.
The plane I pwn everyone with in altitude. ^^

(http://mikesol.com/pics/Mirandasmall.png)

Miranda = Latias/Latios. Kinda looks like them >.>

Also, the Altitude planes should be legendaries.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on November 18, 2009, 05:43:29 pm
Loopy/Biplane/Miranda can replace Pidgey/Pidgeotto/Pidgeot. Bomber/Explodet can replace Wailmer/Wailord. Pretty simple. And I'm almost certain that Kudo is already plotting some things for the legendaries, and I have a few ideas as well. Altitude doesn't need to take legendaries.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on November 18, 2009, 05:54:53 pm
I'm glad I could help come up with something. =D

Also, we need to be able to fight Simon Belmont as one of the trainers. All of his pokemon use Vine Whip. DON'T ASK WHY, JUST DO IT.

Anything else you all having writers block over?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on November 18, 2009, 06:30:27 pm
Not particularly. I'm pretty much kicking around waiting for Kudo; other then that, I'm just procrastinating designing more maps. I've been working on some experimental redesigns for a few of the routes, but I haven't set anything permanent in for any of them yet.

Also, I've been trying to work with the block editor to see if I could make some custom maps, but it's damn hard to use <.<
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on November 18, 2009, 09:55:32 pm
How am I cameoing again?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on November 18, 2009, 09:58:28 pm
I believe we have you set to replace Hydro Pump if we can; if not, we'll come up with something else.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: yoshi on November 18, 2009, 09:59:21 pm
I think you should make a giant picture using all the maps, like crop circles.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on November 18, 2009, 10:00:54 pm
Hydropump, eh? Sweet.

And Yoshi's idea would be awesome but impractical. =(
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on November 18, 2009, 10:02:18 pm
It'd be tough to get it to look right, but I think there's space on some of the bigger routes for something like that. I like the idea, Yoshi.

Now I just need to figure out what to make >.>
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on November 18, 2009, 10:03:08 pm
Giant cherry.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: yoshi on November 18, 2009, 10:03:56 pm
Really detailed phalli(?) covering the kanto region.
A drawing of something symbolic from IWBTG >_>
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on November 18, 2009, 10:04:47 pm
Giant cherry.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on November 18, 2009, 10:06:06 pm
We need to figure out what we're going to do with the Giant Cherry meme. That's definitely a big one, so I'm going to try to save it for something awesome.

Although this would be pretty awesome, it'd also be damn hard to make a giant cherry crop circle >.>
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: yoshi on November 18, 2009, 10:06:51 pm
We need to figure out what we're going to do with the Giant Cherry meme. That's definitely a big one, so I'm going to try to save it for something awesome.
Lance's Dragonite
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on November 18, 2009, 10:11:15 pm
Oh ye gods, there's a character named Lance?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: yoshi on November 18, 2009, 10:13:58 pm
>_<
There's always been a character named Lance.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on November 18, 2009, 10:18:58 pm
Oh.

OH YEAH. I REMEMBER LANCE FROM GOLD.
I feel like and idiot now.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: yoshi on November 18, 2009, 10:20:17 pm
Oh.

OH YEAH. I REMEMBER LANCE FROM GOLD.
I feel like and idiot now.
-insert quote about adding something to injury-
I forgot it >_>
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on November 18, 2009, 10:20:37 pm
And in RBY.... >.>
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on November 18, 2009, 10:24:42 pm
Oh yeah, and Ruby. Never played RBY for very long, though.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: yoshi on November 18, 2009, 10:27:02 pm
Lance was in ruby? o_o
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on November 18, 2009, 10:28:08 pm
He meant, Bed/Blue/Yellow, not Ruby. You're such a pokemon noob, Liquid >.>
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on November 18, 2009, 10:31:17 pm
Oh yeah, and Ruby. Never played RBY for very long, though.
Quite lying liquid.


Otherwise, I know for a fact he was in Gen 1, 2, 3.5, and now 4.5

if you add Ruby, that's basically everything but silly Gen 4 (forget Cynthia, Lance has a Garchomp with Outrage...it's also a much higher level)

checked: Not in Ruby, you fail at pokemon Liquid
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on November 18, 2009, 10:32:15 pm
I know! I was saying I thought I remembered him being in Ruby, not that RBY meant Ruby. I'm no Pokemon noob, I've just not played the newest or oldest games.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Arkhanno on November 18, 2009, 11:34:40 pm
Cherry and Spike should be one hit KO moves with 1 PP and 100 accuracy.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on November 19, 2009, 07:38:19 am
I laughed.

Actually, I may be able to use a Move Editor tool that I've seen but not downloaded. I'll get that and see what I can do with it, but 100 accuracy seems a little excessive :P
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Neo on November 19, 2009, 12:44:16 pm
He meant, Bed/Blue/Yellow, not Ruby. You're such a pokemon noob, Liquid >.>
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on November 19, 2009, 02:23:30 pm
I like the idea of the moves, but they should be called Fruit, Spike, and Moon.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on November 19, 2009, 02:32:16 pm
I like the idea of the moves, but they should be called Fruit, Spike, and Moon.
Fruit Spike and Moon should be triattack.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on November 21, 2009, 05:20:06 pm
BUMP FOR GREAT JUSTICE

Blastoise should be Slowtoise.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: MrRTheGuy on November 21, 2009, 06:43:37 pm
Slowpoke should be

Blastpoke
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on November 21, 2009, 10:43:13 pm
Slowpoke should be

Blastpoke

No

Anyway, this isn't canceled yet, I'm getting off my lazy ass and collecting sprites...NOW.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on November 22, 2009, 12:18:37 am
I'm still lazily fooling around with AdvanceMap. Not much else has been done, though. I'm get working on it again, I suppose.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Yule on November 22, 2009, 12:20:42 am
I really want to play this guys :<
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on November 22, 2009, 12:21:24 am
We know it's a highly desired product, otherwise we wouldn't be doing it <.<

EDIT: Did a redesign of Route 1 that I think Liquid will enjoy.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: MrRTheGuy on November 22, 2009, 06:29:38 am
'm no Pokemon noob

Stop Lying Liquid.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: zapuppy on November 22, 2009, 10:57:34 am
Fuck this sounds awesome.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on November 22, 2009, 11:50:55 am
EDIT: Did a redesign of Route 1 that I think Liquid will enjoy.

Dammit, now I'm curious.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on November 22, 2009, 11:56:16 am
I'm hoping you'll get the joke, although it may be on too small an area for you to tell what it is, unfortunately. I may try to find a bigger area so I can put more detail into the design.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on November 22, 2009, 03:01:54 pm
Screencap pleas?  ;D
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on November 22, 2009, 03:24:39 pm
When you guys need help with Boss Design/Balance let me know ;D
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on November 22, 2009, 03:33:48 pm
Here, Liquid:
(http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/3222/liquidscreencap.jpg)
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on November 22, 2009, 03:35:22 pm
lololololol.

I can do a literally pixel perfect awesome face if I'm given enough blocks. I did it for my MKDS flag.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on November 22, 2009, 03:37:17 pm
Yeah, the problem is finding a space that's big enough and is convenient for it. I'm still looking around for somewhere that I could do that in, but for now, that'll stay there.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on November 22, 2009, 04:36:11 pm
I lol'd, Venser.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on November 22, 2009, 10:45:15 pm
Progressively editing the game, I'm finished Mt. Moon and everything before it. I didn't bother messing with Pewter City because there's so many events I was afraid to move anything in fear that I'd ruin the scripts. >.>

I'm getting faster, though.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on November 23, 2009, 02:06:29 am
Good shit. Can you post screenies of Mt. Moon?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on November 23, 2009, 10:37:43 am
Well, there's a couple parts of Mt. Moon that I don't want you guys to see yet :P

And keep in mind that for the first floor I didn't want to change the nostalgic feeling too much and the third floor had too many events at the end for me to monkey with it. The second floor is different, though, and the beginning of the third floor is also.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: zapuppy on November 23, 2009, 08:47:43 pm
I all of you. Fuck, you're awesome.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on November 24, 2009, 11:29:29 pm
If it's possible, can I design Cerulean Cave?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on November 25, 2009, 05:27:05 pm
It's not possible without me sending you a copy of the game as I have modified it thus far. Which I don't want to do, because then you could see all the changes I've made, including alterations to wild pokemon >.>
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on November 26, 2009, 12:52:50 am
I meant after you send out the first "release". >.>
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on November 26, 2009, 01:19:01 am
I meant after you send out the first "release". >.>

you could do that if you wanted to I guess, but that won't be for a good while *goes back to looking for random sprites that might be usable*
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on November 26, 2009, 01:53:26 am
That's fine. I won't have time for a while anyway.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on November 26, 2009, 12:13:15 pm
I just looked at Cerulean cave, and the design of the tiles makes me cry. I wouldn't suggest trying to edit it, even me trying to edit one floor would probably take a solid few hours just because of the way the tiles are set up.

Of course, I could wipe the whole thing and redo it with a different tileset, but that would still take forever.

Oh yeah, and here's a present for you guys:
(http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/3499/iwbtpscsht1.jpg)
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Yule on November 26, 2009, 12:43:41 pm
Such a tease D:
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on November 27, 2009, 02:06:45 am
That's after Mt. Moon, correct?

Will there be shoutouts for each of the regulars?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Pokota on November 27, 2009, 10:08:26 am
I think I'm still set to be a late-game trainer.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on November 27, 2009, 12:03:57 pm
So far, we've set in that every regular will be a trainer/gym leader/something else in the game. Kudo's been inactive recently, unfortunately, so besides some map redesigns from me the project hasn't actually progressed much (at least that I know of).

And yes, that's Route 4 after Mt. Moon.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on November 28, 2009, 02:24:58 am
Do you think we should replace the various rocket grunts with the Gomos?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Arkhanno on November 28, 2009, 04:11:07 am
gomos and Silent clones. :D
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on November 28, 2009, 12:10:11 pm
I dunno. I'm not sure how AdvanceText works, quite honestly, because all I've seen of it are tutorials - I've downloaded it from three different places and none of them work. I know AdvanceMap can't do that, but then it is just for map editing.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on November 29, 2009, 01:25:21 pm
I'm still here!

The bad news is, since I reformated my computer, AdvanceText doesn't seem to work anymore  >:( (working on a way to fix that, hopefully this shouldn't be hard)

I've still been looking into Audio editing, although it's not a pretty task (but doesn't seem too hard...)

Sprites...seriously, I have folder filled to the brim with sprites...few of which will actually be useful to this project

So for now I just have a list of all the pokemon, Gen I-III, listing which will stay the same, which won't (I'll just say this right now, none of the legendaries will be the same) I'm assuming a good portion of the item sprites can stay the same. This list in incomplete as I don't know everything that will be edited, even for just Version 1.0

Otherwise, AdvanceText basically edits any text like signs or pre-battle dialouge, non-battle NPC dialouge. But I couldn't find one to edit names :/ Haven't looked into much of this in a while to be honest (still busy with real life and all that). Otherwise, I'll just be working on the above mentioned list.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on November 29, 2009, 02:22:07 pm
We don't need to edit items at all, as far as I know. If we come up with something cool for items, that's fine, but as of now I can't think of anything. Audio editing would be a bonus, but I don't consider it a priority. Sprites are the biggest priority and problem. I'll PM you some pictures for examples of some of the things we have planned in a little while, and I'll also send the latest version of the game, in case you want to take a look at it.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Silver on November 29, 2009, 02:23:11 pm
Giant cherry = master ball?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Pokota on November 29, 2009, 03:24:21 pm
No, Giant Cherry = Reverse Lum Berry
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on November 29, 2009, 05:22:31 pm
It's a delicious fruit, damnit!
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on December 01, 2009, 02:37:18 pm
Make "Solar Beam" or "Hyper Beam" into "Factory Laser Level".
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on December 01, 2009, 04:21:36 pm
Make "Solar Beam" or "Hyper Beam" into "Factory Laser Level".
I would say change Hyperbeam to QuickmanStage >.>
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on December 01, 2009, 08:10:55 pm
DO IT
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on December 01, 2009, 08:23:47 pm
I still need to get that move editor tool downloaded >.>

Recently I've just been working on the Rock Tunnel. Oh, and that brings be to a question: Do you guys agree that I should remove the darkness from the Tunnel? It really annoys me that I have to teach such a worthless move to a pokemon just to advance through the game, and I've always wanted to take it out. But if you guys don't want it removed, I'll leave it.

I can easily take it out though.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: zapuppy on December 01, 2009, 08:27:08 pm
Remove
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Epic Kirby on December 01, 2009, 08:28:58 pm
You only had to use it a few times and it is useless remove it
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: SilentLoner on December 01, 2009, 08:39:24 pm
I don't see much point in keeping it around. It's been a long time since I played any Pokémon games, but I might give this a shot when it's ready.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on December 01, 2009, 09:24:25 pm
Make "Solar Beam" or "Hyper Beam" into "Factory Laser Level".
I would say change Hyperbeam to QuickmanStage >.>

too long a name, wouldn't fit, can that be abbreviated?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on December 01, 2009, 10:10:39 pm
Perhaps "QManStage" would work.

And I guess I'll take out the need for Flash, since no one seems opposed. Not that I really expected there to be anyone.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Pokota on December 01, 2009, 10:15:33 pm
Take out the need, yes, but leave the HM in.

Alternately, make a hard path and a not-as-hard path, where the hard path does not require flash and the not-so-hard one does.

...er, wait, I'm thinking OHRRPGCE stuff again. Romhacking that would be much more difficult.
/me likes to use useless moves.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on December 01, 2009, 10:29:44 pm
It would be somewhat more difficult to do what you're asking...and when I say more difficult, I mean like taking-6-more-hours-difficult. So unless I figure out an easier way to do it, that's definitely not going to happen :P
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on December 01, 2009, 10:31:48 pm
Take darkness out.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on December 01, 2009, 10:35:52 pm
Hmm, I never actually used Flash during Rock Tunnel...you could always see a sort of outline which I used to get out instead.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on December 02, 2009, 02:55:49 am
I would say take it out, but leave it in for bonus dungeons like Seafoam and Cerulean Cave.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kloud on December 02, 2009, 10:59:57 pm
Can i pre-order a copy now to get this on Christmas? :D
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Komaku on December 02, 2009, 11:29:37 pm
is there like a pre-order bonus?
like a free powerful 1 hit-ko tm in it? :D
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on December 05, 2009, 05:49:31 pm
I've been working a lot with the events in Rock Tunnel, and I came to realize that Kudo and I need to be better coordinated. To help with that, here's a list of name changes that I'm planning to make, so that you, Kudo, can use AdvanceText to edit the text any time someone says the name.

A ? means I'm planning to change it, but haven't yet decided what to change it to.

Pallet Town->?
Viridian Forest->OTHER GAMES FOREST
Viridian City->OTHER GAMES CITY
Pewter City->?
Mt. Moon->?
Cerulean City->?
Rock Tunnel->TUNNEL OF THE GUY

Really, those are the ones I've gotten to so far. In future pages, I'll just quote this and add to it.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Pokota on December 05, 2009, 11:52:39 pm
Cerulean Cave: I WANNA BE THE CAVE
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on December 05, 2009, 11:53:55 pm
If that fits, I'll totally make it that.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on December 06, 2009, 01:35:22 pm
Mt. Moon should just be "The Moon".
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: dsk on December 06, 2009, 01:36:47 pm
Or (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/35421925/moon.gif)
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on December 06, 2009, 02:04:16 pm
Or (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/35421925/moon.gif)

already doing that for something else

speaking of which, remind me to PM you the list Venser
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on December 06, 2009, 02:07:08 pm
Victory road should be tunnel of the guy.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: dsk on December 06, 2009, 02:29:16 pm
Labyrinth of The Guy.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on December 07, 2009, 10:52:05 am
...whew. You guys have no idea how close I came to being forced to restart this whole thing. I deleted a person in Pallet Town because I'd always found them to be an annoying nuisance, but that apparently messed up a script, which made some really weird things happen when I tried to play through the game. Luckily, I was able to identify and terminate the script, and that improves the game in that you no longer have to listen to "o look i FORurnd sOme TR1N3r t1Pz, l3t m3 ST0P u s0 i can r3Ad 1t"
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on December 07, 2009, 03:29:01 pm
Back up frequently. Rule #1 of romhacking.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on December 07, 2009, 05:13:33 pm
I had a couple back-ups, but they were a lot older :P

Of course, now, I have back-ups in several places.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Pokota on December 08, 2009, 07:30:56 am
Back up frequently. Rule #1 of computers.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on December 08, 2009, 02:27:43 pm
Back up your hentai frequently. Rule #34 of computers.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: zapuppy on December 08, 2009, 05:51:46 pm
Delete your system 32. Rule #1 of computers.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: matlab on December 09, 2009, 03:53:07 pm
Not funny peanutdude
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: zapuppy on December 09, 2009, 04:36:23 pm
Not funny peanutdude
What's a peanut dude?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Pokota on December 09, 2009, 06:28:24 pm
Back up your hentai frequently. Rule #34 of computers.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on December 09, 2009, 08:29:48 pm
Okay, to rerail this thread, I'm still working on the TUNNEL OF THE GUY because it's difficult to keep resetting the warps every time I move them, which is quite often when I'm experimenting with different pathings for the area.

Also, Kudo, I have a couple ideas for text editing that I'll PM you, you'll probably enjoy them.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on December 10, 2009, 04:29:21 am
Alright then. Glad to see we're still working on this. When can we expect a beta release? January? Mid Spring?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on December 10, 2009, 08:58:00 am
Well, I don't know how fast Kudo's work is going, but I seriously doubt I'll be done by January. Mid Spring is much more reasonable for me to be finished, but there may be unexpected happenings that change when I'll be finished. We'll see.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on December 11, 2009, 12:00:19 am
Altitude says delay delay delay. :p
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on December 11, 2009, 12:06:56 am
Altitude says delay delay delay. :p

On Venser's side anyway, but due to how the work has been split up, I haven't TRULY done very much (yet).

Since the research paper is over (yeah, it's only a month paper, nothing compared to actual large projects or whatever, for high school it's pretty big). I plan to grab many moar sprites over the break
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Silver on December 11, 2009, 12:16:13 am
Lol, month long paper. Our AP class is currently doing a 3-month long paper. It started in mid-November and will be due near the beginning of January. Mines on String Theory ^_^
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on December 11, 2009, 12:54:45 am
Lol, month long paper. Our AP class is currently doing a 3-month long paper. It started in mid-November and will be due near the beginning of January. Mines on String Theory ^_^

I see *too stupid to get into an AP class* the paper was one of those things we're just required to do to graduate (as in, you can get straight "A"s in everything but if you f*ck up that paper...there's still senior year to do it, but almost nobody screws it up. Not even me, and I have a tendency to get "B"s and "C"s [actually, just anything that is NOT an "A"...or a "F" I'm not that bad] in NORMAL English class essays, usually for poor grammar). Just goes to show, regardless of actions or appearance, through the internet you're still just dealing with a regular teenage guy.


Well, enough unnecessary talk of school, time for some talk about the process of this editing.

Through the editor it shows there are only 2 pictures needed for each changed pokemon (palette change obviously takes care of shinies). From there, there is a different editor for shifting the location to match, although I doubt I'll use it much. The final touch is a small icon for what the pokemon represents (PC-mode) which is easily done in very small sprites, only one per pokemon.

TL: DR- it's a lot easier than it sounds

News on Sound Editing- obviously it's do-able since I've seen it done in Touhoumon, the farthest I've got is seperating the sound file from the ROM itself...what I need is to convert it, edit those parts through common programs, and somehow put back together. Should be pretty simple if I get my mind to it. Collection of sprites will be the priority, sound editing is still low-priority.

and finally...these tools are refusing to work ****ING REFORMAT. (will get components needed ASAP).

EDIT: Got components, Advance-Text and Pokemon Editor Pro work again.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on December 12, 2009, 12:24:04 pm
Alright, that sounds pretty good to me. I'm also hoping to get a lot of work done over break, seeing as my break is ridiculously long (next week is my last week and we don't go back 'till I think the week after New Year's Day). Oh, and I completely forgot to send you those pictures so you can have examples to get sprites for, Kudo, so I'll try to get on that soon.

Seeing as you probably don't want to download Altitude to look at planes and I doubt you have any idea what my old avatars looked like.

Also, just let me know if you want me to try to take screenshots of planes off Altitude so yo can convert them, but I think there are better, simpler pictures around the internet.

EDIT: Also, does anyone know if there are any scripted events in Lavender Town? There's a large number of scripts in the town itself (which I can't read), but I don't recall any events happening in the actual town, only inside the Pokemon Tower and the home of that Mr. Fuji guy or whatever his name is.

EDIT EDIT: For some reason there's actually two versions of Saffron City in the game, but one of them has no events on it, not even a warp in or out. However, if, theoretically, you turned off movement permissions in Route 8, you could walk into the broken version of the city, not the real one.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Dagnarok on December 12, 2009, 04:49:10 pm
I don't recall the scripted events, but would the (nick)Name Rater have something to do with it?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on December 12, 2009, 04:54:08 pm
No, this is completely inside the town itself. Anything inside a building is part of a different map.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Dagnarok on December 12, 2009, 06:00:20 pm
Don't the characters say different things once you clear the Pokemon Tower?  Would that qualify?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on December 13, 2009, 12:43:35 am
Possibly. I'm thinking that maybe the large number of signposts is the cause, which I would like to remove, as I've always found signposts annoying, but whatever.

Also, I'm editing wild pokemon data so that all LeafGreen exclusives can be found in IWBTP, since it's based off of FireRed and you won't be able to trade without going to huge lengths. (Although I've heard and read about a ROM program for GBA Pokemon games that allows you to trade, we won't be making an IWBTP for LeafGreen, so...)

EDIT: I've already placed both the Aurora Ticket and the Mystic Ticket into the game as hidden items (although they're not hard to find, and if too many people have trouble finding them I'll just announce where they are >.>). The Aurora Ticket allows you to go and catch Deoxys (in Attack Form, since it's FireRed based), and the Mystic Ticket allows your to catch Ho-oh and Lugia. Of course, those things are subject to change, since Kudo is going to be editing all the legendaries.

But of course, that still leaves Latias and Latios, as well as several other legendaries, as uncatchable. So they'll be catchable as wild pokemon in high-level areas or something. I haven't yet decided where to put them.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on December 13, 2009, 06:28:45 am
Bonus dungeon imo.

The legendaries that you can't normally get should be in the bonus dungeon.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on December 13, 2009, 10:57:49 am
Yeah...even though it'll take me a long time, I may just add another floor to Cerulean Cave that is accessible by getting to Mewtwo where you can catch Mew, Celebi, Latios, Latias, Jirachi, Regirock, Regice, Registeel, Kyogre, Groudon, and Rayquaza. Although I may need to put some of them in the water or something, as I think that may exceed the maximum number of different pokemon you can have in the grass of one area (cave floors are considered to be grass).

But I'm not completely sure about that, I may put them somewhere else.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Pokota on December 13, 2009, 12:00:30 pm
I would add three floors.

Sub-Mewtwo One carries Mew, Jirachi, Latios, Latias, Feebas, Wynaut, Wobbuffet, and Crobat
Sub-Mewtwo Two carries the nine starters' fully evolved forms, plus Celebi
Sub-Mewtwo Three carries the rest of the thingies that were listed.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on December 13, 2009, 12:16:50 pm
Every time I make a stage, it takes a really long time to make a floor...that's why I scrapped the idea of adding a house to Pallet Town.

Actually...I just had a genius idea. There are several useless maps in the code (a couple of unused islands and that Saffron City copy I told you guys about) that I think I could make into an extra floor of Cerulean Cave. I'll have to try it out, but hopefully that should make it somewhat easier.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on December 13, 2009, 12:38:32 pm
Is Absol in this version of the game? Absol's my favorite Pokemon.  :P
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on December 13, 2009, 12:58:56 pm
Yeah, Absol is in it, but you won't be able to catch it until you get the National Dex, unless we change that.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on December 13, 2009, 01:04:57 pm
Is Absol in this version of the game? Absol's my favorite Pokemon.  :P

Gen III, so that would be a yes. But not till post national-dex.

adding floors would be quite a bit...but I'll talk more about what to add there later. back to gathering sprites (which for some reason, I am quite behind on)
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on December 13, 2009, 02:46:42 pm
Reference me in Absol somehow, pleas. =F

This shit sounds complicated, though. I wish I could get my hands dirty with it.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on December 13, 2009, 04:54:57 pm
Couldn't you edit the National Dex into your inventory at the start?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on December 13, 2009, 05:02:22 pm
In theory, that's possible, but since the National Dex isn't an item I have no idea how I would do that. Kudo might be able to do it, or there might be a tool for it, but it isn't a huge priority of ours right now; we don't want too many pokemon available in the beginning of the game.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on December 13, 2009, 07:05:32 pm
Well, if you don't give the player the national dex, then you only have 150 "slots" to work with. When I tried to hack Fire Red (Discontinued project), the game checks for the "slots" not the pokemon themselves.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on December 13, 2009, 07:07:27 pm
I seriously doubt (as Kudo has said) that we'll be modifying more then 20-30 pokemon. The rest will be left alone, so we don't need more then 150 slots.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: george94 on December 13, 2009, 07:35:42 pm
TGB dual is the emulator that allows you to run trades, if that's what was being referenced a few pages back.
I'm loving this, my two favourite games, pokemon and iwbtg together!
I'm probably way off track but on the first few pages it lokoe dlike oyu were doing silver, and if so instead of making red the obvious either, the guy make it the kid!
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on December 13, 2009, 07:39:02 pm
We're doing FireRed. We were originally going to do Diamond or Pearl for the special/physical split, but we quickly discounted it due to technical concerns - there aren't really any hacking tools for DPPt and DPPt roms lag quite a bit if your graphics card is subpar. We moved to Silver because there were 16 gym leaders, but then we learned of AdvanceText, AdvanceMap, and a few other tools that are extremely useful for hacking GBA pokemon roms, and since we didn't want to deal with the moving sprite issues, we moved to FireRed.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on December 13, 2009, 09:59:53 pm
Dammit, Venser, you put me on the list and now nobody voted for me.

Unless I actually AM somewhere else in the game. o_O
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on December 13, 2009, 10:00:50 pm
No, we discussed this earlier, you're going in in lieu of Hydro Pump. Although since that's kind of a lame cameo, I'd be happy to make another small one if you so desire.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on December 13, 2009, 10:28:03 pm
It's not lame, it's just small.  ;D
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on December 14, 2009, 12:33:48 am
It's not lame, it's just small.  ;D

Your (excuse of) a meme from Rad's experiment shall be referenced too...
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on December 14, 2009, 12:40:21 am
Also, when you are told that Team Rocket has taken over Sylph Co., you should say "Stop Lying Liquid".
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Fidel CashFlow on December 14, 2009, 08:07:18 am
I REQUEST SOME DICKDOG
Rare Candies are now Dickdogs. :P
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: dsk on December 14, 2009, 01:07:28 pm
Hell naw.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on December 14, 2009, 02:30:16 pm
Also, when you are told that Team Rocket has taken over Sylph Co., you should say "Stop Lying Liquid".

Does that mean I'm a reputable member of Team Rocket? That would be cool as hell. I'd almost perfer that to gym leader.   :D
And dickdog should definitely be in the game somewhere.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: george94 on December 14, 2009, 03:05:25 pm
I'm sure this is all already thought of and decided but i like being creative, your starter pokemon should be a choice between a spike, an apple and something. Your sprite the kid and how about oak being the guy!
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on December 14, 2009, 09:03:53 pm
I'm sure this is all already thought of and decided but i like being creative, your starter pokemon should be a choice between a spike, an apple and something. Your sprite the kid and how about oak being the guy!

spike, apple, and moon are being placed elsewhere
oak is also taken
and obviously The Kid and The Guy are placed
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on December 15, 2009, 08:48:15 pm
If I'm anyone who can be battled, let one of my pokemans be Absol.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: zapuppy on December 15, 2009, 09:10:38 pm
I've always wanted to be in a dragon gym, if so, I'll be one of the minions and my pokemon would be- Dragonair,and, if possible, an Areodactyl.
If not, I could be a trainor by Lavendar town, or in the pokemon tower. My team would probably be a Haunter and a, Gengar.
Thanks!
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on December 15, 2009, 09:48:40 pm
I have an idea for the Tm you recieve after a gym. What if it's based on a meme that that particular leader helped create?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Pokota on December 15, 2009, 11:05:07 pm
Stop Lying Evan
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Fidel CashFlow on December 15, 2009, 11:06:27 pm
Please tell me that ___ASS
will be in thewre somewhere...
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Rad on December 16, 2009, 01:38:42 am
I REQUEST SOME DICKDOG
Rare Candies are now Dickdogs. :P

DO IT, FAGGOT!
aww that would be awesome.

Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: GuyWithPasta on December 16, 2009, 09:51:04 am
Are you doing anything with that asshole that won't let you pass until you beat Brock (or whomever is playing as Brock)?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: dcx666 on December 16, 2009, 10:34:34 am
out of curiosity is this game gonna have a number of reference from vgcat's super effective
http://www.vgcats.com/super/?strip_id=0

or is it completly original...because to me this game is a big hush hush
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on December 16, 2009, 11:34:46 am
We have no references planned for that comic.

It's basically supposed to be about IWBTF.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on December 16, 2009, 12:23:42 pm
Just curious, but is the person who is the Rival also going to be the champion?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on December 16, 2009, 02:01:00 pm
Are you doing anything with that asshole that won't let you pass until you beat Brock (or whomever is playing as Brock)?

Sodra?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kitty on December 16, 2009, 03:20:12 pm
Would you two mind if I made my own sprite for my battle?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on December 16, 2009, 07:12:43 pm
I don't have a problem with it, but Kudo's handling sprites, so he'll have to okay it.

As for a progress report: I'm finished pretty much everything up to Saffron City, so that's going well. I'll probably try and do some extensive changes to the Rocket Hideout later (since I completely ignored it).

Oh, and in case you were wondering I have place all three starters at level 1 as wild pokemon in different areas (Charmander and Bulbasaur can be found as you progress through the game, but you have to go back for Squirtle).

Also, there are awesome pokemon in pretty much every area of grass, just with a low encounter rate.

And Kudo, I went and read that list for the first time, I lol'd hard at several of the changes you're planning to make.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on December 16, 2009, 08:49:46 pm
Would you two mind if I made my own sprite for my battle?

Make sure it has 24 colors maximum 8 colors minimum, make sure it isn't larger than 64(width)x80(height). Other than that, go ahead.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on December 16, 2009, 09:25:33 pm
I'm not too picky about my sprite. Just show me first.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on December 16, 2009, 09:26:38 pm
You kids and your gym cameos. I'm fucking HYDRO PUMP.

That's hardcore shit. Bitches.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on December 16, 2009, 09:28:53 pm
I think some of you are going to cry when you see the horseshit I've set up for my gym. :P

Almost as faggy as my Miranda. Almost...
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on December 16, 2009, 09:30:13 pm
Almost as faggy as my Miranda. Almost...

Stop bragging, Evan.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on December 16, 2009, 09:34:04 pm
ACCEPT THE TROOF!

Anyway...

The rocket boss fights in Sylph Co. and the rocket hideout will be a warmup for whats to come.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kitty on December 16, 2009, 09:42:57 pm
Would you two mind if I made my own sprite for my battle?

Make sure it has 24 colors maximum 8 colors minimum, make sure it isn't larger than 64(width)x80(height). Other than that, go ahead.
Is that the specs for in Battle or in the field?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on December 16, 2009, 09:46:59 pm
I'd better at least be a random trainer or some shit.  9_9
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on December 16, 2009, 09:47:53 pm
Kayin needs a dugtrio. Seriously. :p
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on December 16, 2009, 09:49:24 pm
Obviously a Diglet AND a Dugtrio. Four penises are better than one.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on December 16, 2009, 09:50:41 pm
Would you two mind if I made my own sprite for my battle?

Make sure it has 24 colors maximum 8 colors minimum, make sure it isn't larger than 64(width)x80(height). Other than that, go ahead.
Is that the specs for in Battle or in the field?
My mistake, 64x64, for in-battle. In-field is...still 24 color limit, but 14(width)x20(height) approx.

Measurements are in pixels.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on December 16, 2009, 09:50:57 pm
Yeah, I was planning to ask Kudo to do this via PM, but I'm too lazy so I'll just do it here.

Could you rotate the Diglett and Dugtrio sprites 90 degrees so that they are sideways? That'll make it better.

I think we could give Rival Kayin a Diglett as early as SS Anne, so that should work.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on December 16, 2009, 09:53:41 pm
If you guys need my help designing any other well thought out teams let me know. ^_^

You know I won't let you down if you need something difficult. :p
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Yule on December 16, 2009, 09:54:13 pm
Did you guys figure out what the rest of my team could be?
PM me if you have.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on December 16, 2009, 09:55:19 pm
If you want, you could PM what you have so far and I could throw down ideas.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on December 16, 2009, 10:09:22 pm
Yeah, I was planning to ask Kudo to do this via PM, but I'm too lazy so I'll just do it here.

Could you rotate the Diglett and Dugtrio sprites 90 degrees so that they are sideways? That'll make it better.

I think we could give Rival Kayin a Diglett as early as SS Anne, so that should work.

Rotate it? Easy, alright prnt screened the original ones and rotated in paint, I'll actually re-implement them in the game later.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kitty on December 17, 2009, 03:11:35 am
Would you two mind if I made my own sprite for my battle?

Make sure it has 24 colors maximum 8 colors minimum, make sure it isn't larger than 64(width)x80(height). Other than that, go ahead.
Is that the specs for in Battle or in the field?
My mistake, 64x64, for in-battle. In-field is...still 24 color limit, but 14(width)x20(height) approx.

Measurements are in pixels.
Are you sure, I edited a diamond one and it was 44x72...

ETA: Nvm, got a 64x64 one now.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: GuyWithPasta on December 17, 2009, 12:22:46 pm
I'll make my own avatar as well, but who do I send it to? (this is assuming I get to be a random trainer or somthing like that)
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on December 17, 2009, 06:47:55 pm
If you want to make your own, send it to Kudo, he's doing all of the sprite editing.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Fidel CashFlow on December 17, 2009, 06:53:32 pm
Will there be any way of trading via the roms?
ark sent me one that would let us trade from one rom to another on the same computer.. but...
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on December 17, 2009, 06:58:09 pm
Other then that one emulator that allows you to trade - the name of which escapes me at the moment - there won't be any way to trade.

Unless you have a cart of some kind which would allow you to put it into a real GBA, in which case you might be able to do a Link Trade or a Wireless Trade.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on December 18, 2009, 02:00:21 pm
Do I get a sprite, or are my references text-oriented?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on December 18, 2009, 06:44:01 pm
I have no idea, Liquid.

However, I do have important news. I did an experiment today (which Ybbald watched) where I added several pokemon not from the original 151 to the Route 1 grass and attempted to catch them.

Guess what? You can. Although the data does not appear in the pokedex (since you don't have the National Dex yet) for seeing or catching them, it is still possible to catch and see those pokemon. So, something for Kudo and I to consider...however, for the Gym Leader and Elite 4 teams I'd still prefer you keep them to the original 151 simply for nostalgic value and to keep it from becoming too many different pokemon to keep track of.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on December 18, 2009, 07:22:32 pm
But... but... I want mah Kingdra! D:

Anyway, is hitmonchan going to be Mike Tyson?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on December 18, 2009, 07:29:07 pm
Too bad, no Kingdra for you.

And if Kudo and I just told you every change we were going to make, the game wouldn't be very exciting when it came out, now would it?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on December 18, 2009, 07:32:40 pm
True.

I'm assuming in the rematch battles, we'll have the full array of pokemon for teambuilding. Also, what level are the rematch battles going to be?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on December 18, 2009, 07:37:07 pm
1. It has yet to be decided what will be allowed for rematch battles, or even if there will be rematch battles at all.

2. I am not sure, if we are in fact having rematch battles I'm thinking I'd set up a gauntlet of the 8 Gym Leaders in Cerulean Cave at the end before Mewtwo (and presumable the warp to the 'legendary' part of Cerulean Cave that I'd add) then Kudo and/or myself as trainers, and since thats 8-10 trainers in a row, I'd say that's pretty damn hard as it is. So the levels probably won't be insanely high - probably just a little bit higher than the elite four or perhaps around the elite four rematch levels. I'm not sure, I'll have to discuss it with Kudo.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on December 18, 2009, 07:43:52 pm
The difficulty depends on if items are usable mid battle. Would a battle tower style be possible?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on December 18, 2009, 07:49:11 pm
I liek towerz.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on December 18, 2009, 09:18:59 pm
It may be possible to disable midbattle items, but I doubt it. We could just make revives and the higher-class potions more expensive via AdvanceMart, which might alleviate the problem.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Fidel CashFlow on December 18, 2009, 11:16:17 pm
If you increase the cost of things, rematch battles are an almost must have.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on December 18, 2009, 11:19:23 pm
Elite 4 rematches are already in the code, what we're contemplating here is having rematches with the Gym Leaders in Cerulean Cave.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on December 19, 2009, 12:20:31 am
It may be possible to disable midbattle items, but I doubt it. We could just make revives and the higher-class potions more expensive via AdvanceMart, which might alleviate the problem.
That could help. Let me know if disabling items outright is possible.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on December 19, 2009, 04:14:13 pm
Working on the Rocket Hideout now, and I already despise the set of the tiles. The walls take forever to make, but I'm determined that I'm at least going to make some decent modifications to the first floor, if nothing else.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kitty on December 19, 2009, 08:57:43 pm
I have no idea, Liquid.

However, I do have important news. I did an experiment today (which Ybbald watched) where I added several pokemon not from the original 151 to the Route 1 grass and attempted to catch them.

Guess what? You can. Although the data does not appear in the pokedex (since you don't have the National Dex yet) for seeing or catching them, it is still possible to catch and see those pokemon. So, something for Kudo and I to consider...however, for the Gym Leader and Elite 4 teams I'd still prefer you keep them to the original 151 simply for nostalgic value and to keep it from becoming too many different pokemon to keep track of.
*cries*
I'll have to make a new team adorable. :c
(http://i46.tinypic.com/nfmvkz.jpg)
T-T
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on December 19, 2009, 09:17:35 pm
...Actually, Kitty, here's what I'll do. The Elite 4 can use any non-legendary, but the Gym Leaders are restricted to the original 151 (minus the 5 legendaries). That makes more sense to me, and it will allow us to do some cool things with Kayin's team (which we wouldn't have been able to do if it was the original 151).
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on December 19, 2009, 10:12:39 pm
I have no idea, Liquid.

However, I do have important news. I did an experiment today (which Ybbald watched) where I added several pokemon not from the original 151 to the Route 1 grass and attempted to catch them.

Guess what? You can. Although the data does not appear in the pokedex (since you don't have the National Dex yet) for seeing or catching them, it is still possible to catch and see those pokemon. So, something for Kudo and I to consider...however, for the Gym Leader and Elite 4 teams I'd still prefer you keep them to the original 151 simply for nostalgic value and to keep it from becoming too many different pokemon to keep track of.
*cries*
I'll have to make a new team adorable. :c
(http://i46.tinypic.com/nfmvkz.jpg)
T-T
Spinda is adorable?

Times are a changin.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Dagnarok on December 19, 2009, 10:24:22 pm
Ugh.

I have 2 Pokémon ready for sure.  The other 4 are giving me a hard time.  >_<
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on December 19, 2009, 10:43:13 pm
PM if you need ideas for team building. I'm open to helping. ^_^
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: dsk on December 19, 2009, 10:53:37 pm
Make me a team of 6 Missing No's.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on December 19, 2009, 10:56:53 pm
Lawl. What exactly does Missingno do to an emulator btw?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on December 19, 2009, 11:01:30 pm
Nothing, probably. Actually, Missingno isn't in the code for Firered/Leafgreen, only for R/B/Y and G/S/C. There are several '??????' slots in the code when I look in the wild pokemon data though, I could use those to put glitched pokemon in.

Hmm...actually, I think I'll put some into the Route 1 grass in an experimental game file and see what happens.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: dsk on December 19, 2009, 11:04:21 pm
I have no idea what I'm putting into my team, but I do want a completely mindfuck one. Anyone willing to help a pokemon noob?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on December 19, 2009, 11:06:38 pm
I can make you a good mindfuck team.

You want people to be going "O_O" or "FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!"?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on December 19, 2009, 11:08:00 pm
You want mindfuck, go with crazy shit. Lots of ghosts, darks, and psychics is what I'd suggest...

Sableye is kind of a 'fuck you' pokemon when the AI has it, because it's much harder to exploit (being that it has no weaknesses, you can't just switch out to something that's super effective against it and then use a potion to cover the attack from the switch-in).

But it's all up to you. I wouldn't suggest listening to Evan, all he'll want to do is ubercharge your team using the tier system and try to IV them >.>
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on December 19, 2009, 11:09:04 pm
Tiers don't apply to the AI >.>

And I'll make your team fucking nightmarish if you let me have my way with it. >.>
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on December 19, 2009, 11:12:14 pm
Tiers sure as hell apply to the AI, there are many pokemon that are just outright better than others. For instance, Garchomp>Flygon. (Which makes me cry inside, because I love Flygon).

But anyway, dsk, if you want further advice just send me a PM, since it wouldn't be very exciting if everyone knew your team before they fought you :P
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Dagnarok on December 19, 2009, 11:13:24 pm
I'd rather do things my way.  ^_^

Also, PM coming your way Venser.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on December 19, 2009, 11:16:16 pm
Tiers sure as hell apply to the AI, there are many pokemon that are just outright better than others. For instance, Garchomp>Flygon. (Which makes me cry inside, because I love Flygon).

But anyway, dsk, if you want further advice just send me a PM, since it wouldn't be very exciting if everyone knew your team before they fought you :P
Garchomp>Most things.

But with pokes like Scizor, the thing that makes it broken (CB Bullet Punch or U turn), the AI won't be able to abuse it.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on December 19, 2009, 11:18:53 pm
The point was that Garchomp's stats are just flat-out better than Flygon's, and they're the same exact typing. You could try to argue that Levitate makes Flygon a little better, but that one immunity doesn't nearly make up for the ridiculous increase in stats and movepool you get with Garchomp.

But yeah, there are many strategies (Endure/Reversal, statboost Baton Passing, etc.) that the AI wouldn't be able to use. But regardless, tiers apply because pokemon with better stats are higher up.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on December 19, 2009, 11:24:16 pm
I would say BSTs and movepools determine what makes a poke better for an AI.

Some of the BST 100/100/100/100/100/100 pokes are considered UU in competative, while they'd be fairly nasty in the comps hands.

Garchomp is the posterboy for a bulky sweeper that can cover all of his weak points. (Or at least most of them)
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on December 19, 2009, 11:31:02 pm
You should give dsk 6 mudkipz.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Dagnarok on December 19, 2009, 11:33:17 pm
Six MissingNo Mudkips?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on December 19, 2009, 11:47:35 pm
oh god
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: dsk on December 20, 2009, 12:28:49 am
You should give dsk 6 mudkipz.
All with different build and godly stats.

Or just ONE Pikachu extremely OP. Anyways, I'll PM Venser later.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on December 20, 2009, 12:29:48 am
No, six mudkipz.

But one of them has fire attacks, another electric attacks, psychic attacks, and so on.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on December 20, 2009, 02:47:38 am
Can you post a "blooper reel" of all the pokemon that were too absurdly strong/wat worthy/otherwise usable here? I wanna see what you all came up with.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kitty on December 20, 2009, 10:33:04 am
I have no idea, Liquid.

However, I do have important news. I did an experiment today (which Ybbald watched) where I added several pokemon not from the original 151 to the Route 1 grass and attempted to catch them.

Guess what? You can. Although the data does not appear in the pokedex (since you don't have the National Dex yet) for seeing or catching them, it is still possible to catch and see those pokemon. So, something for Kudo and I to consider...however, for the Gym Leader and Elite 4 teams I'd still prefer you keep them to the original 151 simply for nostalgic value and to keep it from becoming too many different pokemon to keep track of.
*cries*
I'll have to make a new team adorable. :c
(http://i46.tinypic.com/nfmvkz.jpg)
T-T
Spinda is adorable?

Times are a changin.
Why wouldn't Spinda be adorable?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on December 20, 2009, 11:00:44 am
Can you post a "blooper reel" of all the pokemon that were too absurdly strong/wat worthy/otherwise usable here? I wanna see what you all came up with.
Really, other than the legendaries (and a couple of things we've banned from the Elite 4 for various reasons), I think everything else in the original 151 is up for grabs for the Gym Leaders.

Also, I tested the glitch pokemon out. Unfortunately, they're much more tame then Missingno.; all of them just have two large question marks as their sprite, and the one I caught appeared to be a carbon copy of Bulbasaur (except without the sprite).
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kitty on December 20, 2009, 11:31:58 am
(http://i50.tinypic.com/2ro1eeg.jpg)
So cute <333
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on December 20, 2009, 01:53:10 pm
(http://i46.tinypic.com/nfmvkz.jpg)

yeah, Kitty, FOUR of these are from Gen IV

Can you post a "blooper reel" of all the pokemon that were too absurdly strong/wat worthy/otherwise usable here? I wanna see what you all came up with.
Really, other than the legendaries (and a couple of things we've banned from the Elite 4 for various reasons), I think everything else in the original 151 is up for grabs for the Gym Leaders.

Also, I tested the glitch pokemon out. Unfortunately, they're much more tame then Missingno.; all of them just have two large question marks as their sprite, and the one I caught appeared to be a carbon copy of Bulbasaur (except without the sprite).
I actually saw a video on that, the glitch pokemon are useless, that's why we're going to do nothing with their spots, and the 28 Unowns' spots. (Also to make sure we don't severely screw up something on space causing it to glitch more than my first FFVI hack, I was not the happy hacker).
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on December 20, 2009, 02:08:04 pm
Can you post a "blooper reel" of all the pokemon that were too absurdly strong/wat worthy/otherwise usable here? I wanna see what you all came up with.
Really, other than the legendaries (and a couple of things we've banned from the Elite 4 for various reasons), I think everything else in the original 151 is up for grabs for the Gym Leaders.

Also, I tested the glitch pokemon out. Unfortunately, they're much more tame then Missingno.; all of them just have two large question marks as their sprite, and the one I caught appeared to be a carbon copy of Bulbasaur (except without the sprite).
The legendaries and that Extremespeed dragonite >.>

Interesting that glitchmon are much more tame...

(http://i50.tinypic.com/2ro1eeg.jpg)
So cute <333
For some reason, Spinda makes me dizzy.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: yoshi on December 20, 2009, 02:22:32 pm
You can get the extremespeed dratini in firered? ._.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on December 20, 2009, 02:26:35 pm
Extremespeed is learnable by Dragonite in HG/SS.

Since Lance's aerodactyl has rockslide in Gen 2 (Illegal move), I thought that learning moves from the future would be okay >.>
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on December 20, 2009, 03:39:16 pm
No illegal moves, unless we okay it as fair (for instance, giving Jynx Pursuit would be fine with me, as just one example off the top of my head).
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on December 20, 2009, 04:12:28 pm
Extremespeed is learnable by Dragonite in HG/SS.

Since Lance's aerodactyl has rockslide in Gen 2 (Illegal move), I thought that learning moves from the future would be okay >.>
In Gen IV, Aerodactyl learns Rock Slide NATURALLY, the HG/SS Extremespeed is ONLY by the answering the proper questions in the Dragon's Den, otherwise you get a normal Dratini, and NO other dratini will ever learn Extremespeed without a breed off of that special event Dratini, ever. (I should know, I learned this the hard way and got a normal dratini with no extremespeed >_< )

That and there's been an event where they give away an Aerodactyl with Rock Slide, and it's been allowed from Gen III on, Rock Slide tends to have "closer roots" to Aerodactyl (and makes MUCH more sense) so I guess the producers felt it was fitting enough in Gen II.

and look back to exactly what I said about that in the PM:

First, Dragonite's Extremespeed needs to go (sorry, this isn't HG/SS). Although replacing it with Outrage or something is fair game.

etc. And for just the insanity of ExtremeSpeed. Actually, why am I arguing this, I think we already settled this issue. :p
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on December 20, 2009, 04:19:54 pm
Yes we have :p

Can we have a random trainer with a Hydro Pump caterpie?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on December 20, 2009, 04:21:25 pm
Yes we have :p

Can we have a random trainer with a Hydro Pump caterpie?
STOP IT WITH THE DAMN SMALL TEXT

Anyway, I was just thinking that I might modify the stats on Mudkip and have a random trainer have a super-Mudkip with amazing moves, but that probably won't happen.

But we might throw in some strange illegal moves, we'll see.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Dagnarok on December 20, 2009, 04:23:05 pm
My team should be acceptable now, although I can't say I intend to use items.  The only (held) items I've ever used are Type/Move-bonus ones like Plates and ones that earn double money from trainers.  I could use berries, but I'm still debating that.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on December 20, 2009, 04:27:06 pm
What's wrong with small text? D: HATERS BE HATIN!

Berry's and leftovers are good filler, Rag. ^_^

An epic mudkip would be awesome though.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Dagnarok on December 20, 2009, 04:34:22 pm
I would end up using status-healing berries because the HP ones just don't do it for me.  >_>
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on December 20, 2009, 04:50:52 pm
Heil the Lum berry!
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: zapuppy on December 20, 2009, 05:40:52 pm
I would luv to be in Draconic's desendant's gym. I would have an aerodactle and a dragonair.
IAf that's okay, of course.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on December 20, 2009, 05:54:50 pm
Can we edit the floorplan of our gym?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on December 20, 2009, 06:10:00 pm
No, for many of the same reasons that I didn't allow you to edit Cerulean Cave.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on December 20, 2009, 06:14:27 pm
Ok.

Are you guys going to edit them to make them better?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on December 20, 2009, 06:29:16 pm
What # range will we be seeing in this game again?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on December 20, 2009, 06:59:39 pm
I'll probably make some minor modifications to gyms, but gyms with scripts like Vermilion's can't be edited at all (due to all of the tiles being listed in the scripts). If you'd like to request some particular modifications to your gym, just PM me and I'll see what I can do.

And the level range is really entirely up to Kudo. We're not making an insanely hard game here, but we're trying to make it harder then the regular game, as pretty much everyone finds it too easy.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on December 20, 2009, 07:00:35 pm
Oh, I'm sorry, I meant Pokemon number. Like the pokemanz we'll be seeing, their range.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on December 20, 2009, 07:04:27 pm
For most of it it'll just be the original 151 until the end of the game after the Elite 4, when you can go to those island expansions and catch pokemon from other gens. But there will be Gen 2-3 pokemon in the main part of the game, just not all over the place.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on December 20, 2009, 07:05:52 pm
Oh, that's cool.

Tell me if you want help designing builds (fun ones, not serious ones).
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on December 20, 2009, 07:23:59 pm
I can also design "fun" builds, but you'll have to specify that you don't want it to sodomize the player :p

Can you change the tile colors/background? If so, I want my gym in a black hole.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Dagnarok on December 20, 2009, 07:29:21 pm
A Space Jam?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on December 20, 2009, 07:33:39 pm
Something like that. >.>

If this is possible, make one of the signs in Viridian City say "I divided by zero!"
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Dagnarok on December 20, 2009, 07:37:47 pm
TRAINERS TIPS

Don't divide by zero.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on December 20, 2009, 07:45:11 pm
Exactly!
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on December 20, 2009, 07:45:45 pm
oh God, the possibilities...
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on December 20, 2009, 07:46:41 pm
I'll look into Viridian's tileset, but I seriously doubt there's anything even close to a black hole.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on December 20, 2009, 07:51:38 pm
I don't expect it to work, just something I thought would be cool to try.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: yoshi on December 20, 2009, 07:53:39 pm
I'll look into Viridian's tileset, but I seriously doubt there's anything even close to a black hole.
If one of the tiles in the set don't appear much elsewhere, recolor sprite?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on December 20, 2009, 08:01:23 pm
Also, can we replace the preset gym leader music with something more epic?

Like this? OH GAWD THE NOSTALGIA! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZoSVtY0m9I)
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on December 20, 2009, 10:50:58 pm
Also, can we replace the preset gym leader music with something more epic?

Like this? OH GAWD THE NOSTALGIA! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZoSVtY0m9I)

preset music is a definite no, unless I can rip out the music manually from the game and throw it in (it's do-able, there's an example I'd show but I don't want to give it away if I do get far enough into hacking in sounds).
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on December 20, 2009, 10:57:51 pm
Kudo, AdvanceMap can change the music set to a particular area (if not a battle). It can't rip and replace, but it can change to something that's already in the data, if you're interested in that.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on December 20, 2009, 11:31:14 pm
So we could make the gym leader theme any other song in the game, basically?

Any songs that are off limits?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on December 20, 2009, 11:34:43 pm
Kudo may be able to change the battle music, but I can't. AdvanceMap only does field music.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on December 20, 2009, 11:35:37 pm
Alright.

Keep up the good work.

In the meantime:
Any songs that are off limits?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on December 21, 2009, 12:27:27 am
champion theme is off-limits of course...that's the FIRST song I'll be changing if I can
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Pokota on December 21, 2009, 12:34:48 am
Starter Pokemon is a Wobbufett.

Wait for it...

Rival Starter is a Sableye or Spiritomb.

OSHIT! CANTWIN! WHATDO?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on December 21, 2009, 12:37:31 am
Can you set it so that the old champion theme becomes the new gym leader theme? (Assuming you're just resetting what song plays) If not I have other soundtrack ideas.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Sarah on December 21, 2009, 03:37:19 am
Something like that. >.>

If this is possible, make one of the signs in Viridian City say "I divided by zero!"

DO THIS. I command you. :P
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Fidel CashFlow on December 21, 2009, 03:44:53 am
Can you change the tile colors/background? If so, I want my gym in a black hole.
OH GOD
Can my gym be pink?, like..
this type of pink.||
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on December 21, 2009, 11:50:33 am
I have no way of editing the sprites of tiles. I can change the tileset, but that resets the entire map, therefore forcing me to remake it from scratch. I'll look around to see if there is a tile sprite editor, but I doubt I'll find anything.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Dagnarok on December 21, 2009, 03:08:48 pm
Kudo may be able to change the battle music, but I can't. AdvanceMap only does field music.

DD's battle should have Kung Fu Fighting.  XD
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on December 21, 2009, 09:48:28 pm
Someone has to have Tunak Tunak Tun - Daler Mehndi as theirs.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Yule on December 22, 2009, 03:55:22 am
Someone has to have Tunak Tunak Tun - Daler Mehndi as theirs.
Sure as fuck won't be mine.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on December 23, 2009, 05:26:06 pm
Status report!

How's it coming along?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on December 23, 2009, 06:02:11 pm
I'm sadly still working on the Rocket Hideout; I've been swamped with doctor visits and just creativity block that I can't get over. I'm determined to finish the Hideout tonight, though.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: DraconicDescendant on December 23, 2009, 06:14:04 pm
I've got my team all thought out.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on December 23, 2009, 06:30:03 pm
You can PM it to me, Draco. I was just about to PM you asking for your gym choice, so I'll do that now.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on December 23, 2009, 07:15:40 pm
Someone has to have Tunak Tunak Tun - Daler Mehndi as theirs.
Sure as fuck won't be mine.
You know you like it.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: DraconicDescendant on December 23, 2009, 07:22:17 pm
Kudo may be able to change the battle music, but I can't. AdvanceMap only does field music.

DD's battle should have Kung Fu Fighting.  XD

Why not go the cliched route and have Dragonforce?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on December 23, 2009, 07:25:03 pm
I would lose both ways if it were so, my scaled friend.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on December 23, 2009, 07:48:40 pm
So what order are all the gyms?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on December 23, 2009, 07:51:54 pm
The same order, of course. I don't have the skill or tools to rewrite the event scripting to allow us to reroute the game entirely, and either way it would kind of be a waste of time >.>
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on December 23, 2009, 07:52:56 pm
No, I meant what gym is each regular occupying.

All I've seen is the choose order.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on December 23, 2009, 08:38:47 pm
We aren't announcing that, that was the whole point of using PMs and not just having people choose in the thread.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on December 23, 2009, 11:12:55 pm
Ok.

It'll be a surprise then.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on December 24, 2009, 12:12:23 am
That was the idea.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: DraconicDescendant on December 24, 2009, 11:56:58 am
Hey guys, Slowpoke here. I heard you were making a fan game about me.

(http://www.koi-nya.net/extra/ELE/slowpoke.png)
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on December 24, 2009, 04:45:30 pm
Hey guys, Slowpoke here. I heard you were making a fan game about me.
You heard wrong. This game is about me.

(http://r.xtarsia.net/roph/img/random/Slowpoke%20Sonic.jpg)

Annnnnnyway, did you finish the rocket hideout?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on December 24, 2009, 04:56:42 pm
YOU'RE TOO FAST
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Dagnarok on December 24, 2009, 05:33:24 pm
WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT THING???

Also, topic is now stickied.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on December 24, 2009, 05:39:11 pm
Also, topic is now stickied.
<3

Also, YOU'RE TOO SLOW!
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: SilentLoner on December 24, 2009, 05:39:35 pm
Rag, are you going on a stickying spree?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Dagnarok on December 24, 2009, 05:42:28 pm
I just stickied two topics.  That's it.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: SilentLoner on December 24, 2009, 05:44:26 pm
...For now.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Neo on December 24, 2009, 08:04:42 pm
Can you have Slowpoke battles go like:

Wild encounter!!!! Enemy Slowpoke etc etc etc.
*slowpoke is not there*
*you attack*
"You attack Slowpoke. Slowpoke is not physically present in the battle yet."
*you attack*
"Not here yet" etc etc

and then he finally gets there?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on December 24, 2009, 08:23:34 pm
Can you have Slowpoke battles go like:

Wild encounter!!!! Enemy Slowpoke etc etc etc.
*slowpoke is not there*
*you attack*
"You attack Slowpoke. Slowpoke is not physically present in the battle yet."
*you attack*
"Not here yet" etc etc

and then he finally gets there?

We might have to do that as a replacement for a one of the buff moves, minus the buff, or splash attack. But otherwise, until we can find a proper way to do that, no. Stick with the basics for now, fancy stuff can always be added later.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on December 24, 2009, 08:28:23 pm
So I heard that better pokemon will be in earlier patches of grass. Confirm/Debunk?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on December 24, 2009, 09:54:14 pm
It depends upon how you define 'better'. If you simply mean 'different' in this context, then the answer is yes. We may be upping the level of some areas of wild pokemon as well.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on December 24, 2009, 10:42:40 pm
Will we have to spend an hour or so in the safari zone to get all the pokes there? >.>
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on December 24, 2009, 11:02:33 pm
I haven't gotten there yet, I haven't decided what I'm going to do with it.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on December 25, 2009, 11:43:42 am
Make only Mudkips spawn there.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: DraconicDescendant on December 25, 2009, 02:25:20 pm
What are you going to do for Pokemon Tower?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on December 25, 2009, 02:34:55 pm
I've already done some minor redesigns on the Pokemon Tower. Some of the floors had some strange-looking events that I didn't want to tangle with (especially the floor with the symbol on the ground that restores all your pokemon), so I left them mostly alone, but I completely redesigned at least one floor.

Right now, I'm going back and doing some rework on the Rocket Hideout because I was unsatisfied with it as I had had it done.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: DraconicDescendant on December 25, 2009, 05:12:45 pm
Are you going to make the Seafoam Islands any harder? Because that dungeon pissed me off to no end when I was a kid.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on December 25, 2009, 05:39:10 pm
Whether we make the actual dungeon harder...I dunno, maybe. The design of that entire area is just horribly annoying, so I probably won't do much there.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on December 25, 2009, 09:29:11 pm
Make it an unexpected genre switch; pipe shooter meets fighting game.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on December 26, 2009, 01:42:11 pm
Seeing as Seafoam islands is optional, I don't object issue making it harder unless the tilesets are uncooperative. Also, I'm assuming biker's path will be unedited because the slope is a script?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on December 26, 2009, 02:28:26 pm
I'll have to take a look at the Biker's Path. It may be an event script, or it may be a script bound into the tiles.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on December 29, 2009, 12:54:23 am
Sorry I've been sort of inactive with this topic, especially since I'm supposed to be one of the producers.

But idea-wise for this project, everything is generally set so we won't need anymore in the near future until we finish what is already planned. Also I AM taking note of almost everything being said here as far as these ideas, and will try accommodate when I get to editing the game myself when Venser finishes but obviously not everything will be done (whether it be because it isn't possible within our editors' means, we forgot, or if was honestly too ridiculous to be considered).

Sorry, vague post...tired...and far behind schedule on my part.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on December 31, 2009, 03:47:58 pm
It's okay, Kudo, I haven't progressed much on my part either. Tiredness, lack of creativity, and a few other factors...but I'll have it done by my self-imposed deadline, don't worry about that.

Anyway, some bad news. I tested out the new Rocket Hideout, and I screwed up several scripts in there, which I was afraid would happen...Rocket Hideout it causing me a lot of trouble, so I think I'm just going to revert it to mostly its original form and just leave it. I'll try to change the puzzles a little bit, but there's scripts in the puzzles that make that very difficult.

EDIT: And don't say I didn't warn you...I suggest bringing Cut along on Route 14 or you'll miss out on some nice stuff.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Dagnarok on December 31, 2009, 04:35:04 pm
HM slave FTW!
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: runescapesuxxx on January 02, 2010, 09:27:13 am
Are you fuckin serious? Sticky a decent game...
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: zapuppy on January 02, 2010, 09:29:27 am
Are you fuckin serious? Sticky a decent game...
I'll like to see you do any better.
Good work guys!
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Mort, the Lonely on January 02, 2010, 10:39:46 am
Are you fuckin serious? Sticky a decent game...

They have...  9_9

From what I've read, and the few images, this game sounds like it's gonna be a blast, I can't wait fellas.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on January 03, 2010, 03:24:51 am
Updates?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on January 03, 2010, 11:47:13 am
Well, I haven't gotten much map work done (I've imposed a deadline on myself by which it'll be handed over to Kudo, and I'll still make it). I've been mostly doing some work on the Safari Zone, trying to make it more interesting, since it's a fun part of the game.

Mostly I've been trying to track people down and see if they have any preferences for their cameos. And setting teams, and such. Hopefully when school starts again tomorrow I'll be motivated to get some work done on it in my classes.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on January 03, 2010, 07:02:13 pm
Rename Kakuna to Penis.

I just wanna see "Wild PENIS used HARDEN!"
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on January 03, 2010, 08:04:41 pm
Er...Kudo can decide if he wants to put that one in there >.>
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on January 03, 2010, 08:21:59 pm
Er...Kudo can decide if he wants to put that one in there >.>
Okaies

Rename Kakuna to Penis.

I just wanna see "Wild PENIS used HARDEN!"

My decision: No, you're on your own, nickname it if you wish. The Butterfree line isn't going to be changed anyway.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on January 04, 2010, 10:37:34 am
Catch a caterpie and name it penis.

Penis used string shot
Penis used Harden
Penis used Sleep Powder (lolwut)

The fun never ends  9_9
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on January 04, 2010, 12:01:53 pm
Oh, fine. =P

I'm playing Leaf Green right now. No, I didn't name my caterpie penis.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Arkhanno on January 04, 2010, 12:54:05 pm
No, I didn't name my caterpie penis.

It's what you name your Weedle.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on January 04, 2010, 09:48:52 pm
Good news: School has, in fact, motivated me to get some stuff done. I finished the Safari Zone in English, completely disregarded the water route down to Cinnabar, and I'm redesigning the Pokemon Mansion (I'm probably not going to change too much, because the scripted switching events look kind of scary, but I'm changing the wild pokemon data a lot).

Oh, and by the way; Kudo and I are looking into upping the difficulty enough to make the game not a cakewalk, but also not impossible. We'll have to playtest and see once I'm done redesigns, but I am planning on putting some hard fights in to make it a challenge.

Also, I'm pretty sure playing this game will be more fun if you don't play pokemon before it's release (at least too much or too close to it) because I can't change everything. Some things will be the same, and that won't be exciting if you've already done it. We're trying to keep the project not entirely half-assed with lame redesigns, but I'm not very good with events, so there are some things I have to avoid.

: Regulars • show

Amber
Alpha Centauri
Arkhanno
Cat/Kitty
DraconicDescendant
dsk

Ellipsis
Evan
guywithpasta
JohnCougarMafoisi/Lion
Komaku
Koppis
Kudo
Kwiftee
Liquid

Luis20
Matonen
Neo
Ninjafetus
Nolan
OLDGREG

Rad
Raekuul (Although where has yet to be decided, I believe. We have the team.)
Ragnarok
Sarah
SilentLoner
Silverrida
TAYLOOP

Tervez
tijitdamijit
Venser
Ybbald
Yoshi
Yuletideriz
Yuping/ChronoFox


Additionally, this is the List of Regulars which I have updated somewhat from Koppis' thread after SL's edits. I then crossed out all the ones we already have covered. If I missed anyone, please post it. If you believe that I have incorrectly crossed you out, send me a PM, because there's a few on here that Kudo and/or I have done behind-the-scenes because we thought they were fitting. Anyway, especially Kudo if you could go over this list, then I can start working on getting everyone on this list crossed out.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on January 04, 2010, 10:57:13 pm
: Regulars • show

Amber
Alpha Centauri
Arkhanno
Cat/Kitty
DraconicDescendant
dsk

Ellipsis
Evan
guywithpasta
JohnCougarMafoisi/Lion
Komaku
Koppis
Kudo
Kwiftee
Liquid

Luis20
Matonen
Neo
Ninjafetus
Nolan
OLDGREG

Rad
Raekuul (Although where has yet to be decided, I believe. We have the team.)
Ragnarok
Sarah
SilentLoner
Silverrida
TAYLOOP

Tervez
tijitdamijit
Venser
Ybbald
Yoshi
Yuletideriz
Yuping/ChronoFox


Slightly edited with stuff I DO happen to have planned in some way. (Just Tijit and Ark actually)
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on January 04, 2010, 11:06:33 pm
This will likely be my most anticipated game of '10.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Arkhanno on January 04, 2010, 11:15:45 pm
This will likely be my most anticipated game of '10.

This and Battle Kids.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on January 04, 2010, 11:17:17 pm
Pretty much.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: notquiteNBG on January 05, 2010, 05:21:37 am
This game has my attention...
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on January 05, 2010, 02:02:22 pm
That's disconcerting.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: notquiteNBG on January 05, 2010, 02:33:31 pm
That's disconcerting.
not like that, as in "that game sounds fun"
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on January 05, 2010, 03:41:15 pm
Or is it?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: notquiteNBG on January 05, 2010, 03:43:59 pm
How do you know it isnt a mudkip's favorite game?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on January 06, 2010, 06:52:04 pm
Alright, I've finished enough of the game's map editing that I consider it fit for a test, and I sent it to Kudo for him to do his work. Once he's finished, we'll start testing to see if we got the difficulty right, and we'll make changes as needed. I'm going to say that if our tests go perfectly, we'll end up playtesting the entire game twice, since we'll have to make changes and retest.

After that, it should be fit for release.

(And by the way, I'm actually considering finding someone to be a third playtester for us so we can judge the difficulty with each different starter...although that's mostly only an issue in the early gyms, since later on you have more options available. Don't count on it, but I'm just putting this out there.)
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on January 06, 2010, 08:32:15 pm
I can playtest. I'm a semicasual gamer, so I'll be a good example of such a player.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on January 06, 2010, 09:58:29 pm
And by the way, I didn't make the addon to Cerulean Cave yet. I'm trying to figure out how to work those warps and such while Kudo's doing his work so that I'll be capable of making it when we're finished our first alpha test.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on January 06, 2010, 11:33:36 pm
I'd be willing to playtest. You can give me certain conditions to handicap me if you want as well.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Fidel CashFlow on January 06, 2010, 11:36:14 pm
OH GOD
I'M SIMPLY WETTING MYSELF IN ANTICIPATION.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on January 07, 2010, 01:24:46 am
Changing the moves (not movesets of each pokemon) was freakishly easy and quick. So I've done the planned moves so far.

Good news aside, sprites will take a LONG amount of time (since I've been lazy so I only have around half of them now). So here's the checklist, I'll update from time to time with percent complete.

: show
1.) Change Moves ~80-100% done

2.) Text Not Started

3.) Sprites (Collection/Creation) ~30-50% done

4.) Sprites Insertion Not Started

5.) Pokemon Not Started

6.) Additional Scripts Not Started

7.) Pokemon Teams 
Planning: ~45-65%
Insertion: Not Started

8.) *OPTIONAL* Music Not Started

9.) Finishing touches. Not Started

10.) General Testing with Venser + ??? Not Started


To be honest, with testing I was thinking on somehow getting someone outside of the forum who wouldn't spill anything. They wouldn't understand all of the inside jokes of course, but it would get the job done.

Also, out of curiosity, what will all of you guys be using to play this? Just a GBA Emulator? (I personally will be using my iTouch and/or Wii). Or perhaps a flashcard?

Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Arkhanno on January 07, 2010, 01:51:15 am
I'll probably be using an emulator.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Rad on January 07, 2010, 02:52:18 am
change snorlax to borlax.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: sans on January 07, 2010, 03:09:03 am
Also, out of curiosity, what will all of you guys be using to play this? Just a GBA Emulator? (I personally will be using my iTouch and/or Wii). Or perhaps a flashcard?

I will be playing this on my wonderful GP2X Wiz and its great GBA emulator. God, how I love portable emulation devices that don't require either purchasing separate flash carts or spending hours on software mods to get it to work!

While waiting for this game to be released, I think it's time to go back and (re)play Gold, as that was the last one I sat and played the entire game through.  I never really got into the GBA or DS versions of the game, as they felt... lacking, for lack of a better word.  The biggest jump initially was from R/B/Y to G/S/C with 100 new Pokemon, a day and night system, a breeder, timed events, and the ability to go back to the original game's world and fight against the different trainers over there.

(Note: It confuses me as to why Firefox recognizes Pokemon as a correctly spelled word... I don't recall adding it into its dictionary)
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: GuyWithPasta on January 07, 2010, 08:32:12 am
I have incredible amounts of time on my hands to play, as well that I'm kinda good at the game.

Also, if I get the chance to, I'ma gonna make a sprite for my charactor (That is, if I have a trainer, or just a refrence)
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on January 07, 2010, 09:13:43 am
I'll be using my VBA emulator.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: dsk on January 07, 2010, 10:03:15 am
I'll be using my VBA emulator.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on January 07, 2010, 10:59:42 am
I'll probably be using an emulator, but I've been looking around for a GBA flashkart, so if I can find one I'll use that.

And Kudo, using someone not from the forum sounds like a good idea. If you can find someone suited to the task, I say we should go ahead and use them when we can.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Pokota on January 07, 2010, 12:42:55 pm
If I can find/afford a GBA flashcart that works with a DS, I'll use that as an excuse to be able to trade in my FireRed team and Emerald Crobat. I get the feeling I'll need them.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on January 07, 2010, 02:57:54 pm
I'll be using my VBA emulator.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Dagnarok on January 07, 2010, 04:20:26 pm
I'll be using my VBA emulator.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Fidel CashFlow on January 07, 2010, 04:25:33 pm
I'll be using my VBA emulator.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: SilentLoner on January 07, 2010, 08:16:27 pm
I'll probably download a GBA emulator.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on January 07, 2010, 10:11:43 pm
Don't break the combo.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kitty on January 08, 2010, 11:29:41 pm
I still need to get my team in, huh?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on January 08, 2010, 11:38:43 pm
Yes, teams need to be submitted if you are going to submit one, as Kudo is making those changes now.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on January 09, 2010, 01:33:20 am
You'd all better pick Mudkip Squirtle. =D
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Fidel CashFlow on January 09, 2010, 05:55:34 pm
Alright guys, i just had a dream... and this was released in that dream, I am anticipating this wayyyy tooooo much >_>.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Dagnarok on January 09, 2010, 05:57:37 pm
GO NINJA GO NINJA GO!
GO NINJA GO NINJA GO!

Wait what?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Neo on January 11, 2010, 02:35:13 pm
I'll be using VBA. Can't wait! :D


How exactly do you do this anyway?? What's the program language?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: OLDGREG on January 11, 2010, 04:34:59 pm
I'm just hoping I appear at a completely inappropriate time, say something random, engage you in a fight only using hoppips and a level one whooper then leave crying when I lose
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on January 11, 2010, 05:44:17 pm
How exactly do you do this anyway?? What's the program language?
We're using tools, not programming ourselves. Either way, the program is written in hex code, and as far as I'm aware that's its own separate 'language', so to speak.
I'm just hoping I appear at a completely inappropriate time, say something random, engage you in a fight only using hoppips and a level one whooper then leave crying when I lose
If that's what you're hoping...I think you'll be quite amused at what Kudo has planned for you.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on January 11, 2010, 08:43:05 pm
I want a battle. But I would understand if I didn't end up getting one.

I assume Evan would get all Randas. =P
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on January 11, 2010, 08:48:12 pm
HOLY SHIT GUYS

I'M PLAYING THE CURRENT VERSION OF IWBTP ON MY PHONE.

ON MY PHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONE.

It's not finished, but fuck it's epic to be able to play on my phone. I'm excited for us to start playtesting just for that.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on January 11, 2010, 09:27:31 pm
HOLY SHIT GUYS

I'M PLAYING THE CURRENT VERSION OF IWBTP ON MY PHONE.

ON MY PHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONE.

It's not finished, but fuck it's epic to be able to play on my phone. I'm excited for us to start playtesting just for that.

Not until I finish the moves at least. (but while you have a portable GBA emulator...Mother 3?)
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Pokota on January 11, 2010, 10:41:54 pm
Well then, don't keep yourself waiting any longer than you need to.

Focus... PAUNCH!
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: DraconicDescendant on January 11, 2010, 10:44:26 pm
Can I request special fight music? You haven't made that entirely clear. But I don't want to trouble you too much with it.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on January 11, 2010, 10:51:41 pm
Can I request special fight music? You haven't made that entirely clear. But I don't want to trouble you too much with it.

Due to my lack of actual current knowledge on custom music (keep in mind that's last on the checklist). Keep it in mind, but don't request just yet. I'm setting my deadline on the moves (not animation) to this Sunday. It's a start, but the serious work is yet to come.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on January 14, 2010, 07:19:37 pm
I played through the beginning (up to Misty) of my current version of the game, and noticed a few errors I made. Kudo, I'm definitely going to need to fix a few things before we playtest.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on January 14, 2010, 11:54:02 pm
Have the first two gyms been changed for the cameos?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on January 15, 2010, 12:01:23 am
I have my version. Kudo has his version. He's doing things in terms of different changes, I believe (text/sprites/etc.), so I doubt that any single thing is completely done.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on January 15, 2010, 03:13:43 am
I have my version. Kudo has his version. He's doing things in terms of different changes, I believe (text/sprites/etc.), so I doubt that any single thing is completely done.

Yeah, although really, I know we're both eager too, but it's best to save the testing till after all the basic changes. There WILL be errors, that's just a given, but we deal with those AFTER the general work is done.

I'd say we get person C to test first to just get down if you can get through the game from start to finish, if not then we deal with those changes as a priority, then our playthroughs for more nit-picky stuff and last second alterations. Testing and changing as we advance.

Have the first two gyms been changed for the cameos?
Not yet, I still haven't actually put in any of the sprites, just technical work. I'll explain more in logs when this is done.

Focus... PAUNCH!
Request Received, change completed. (Finally some good news).

More news, since semister finals are next week, I will have a lot more free-time to actually work on this rather than sit my ass down working on other stuff. (Cause really, the way my grades are looking now, I doubt it's even worth studying, and I mean that in a positive sense, because I'm obviously not failing).
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on January 15, 2010, 01:23:42 pm
My Person C just landed himself a spot on the Varsity volleyball team. So I don't think he'll have time to do this...I'll check around and see if there's someone else I can find willing to do it, but my hopes aren't high.

Also fortunately, fixing the problems I encountered took me about 10 seconds total. The game would be much more annoying if I didn't know about them, because you'd have to walk back to Pewter to restore your pokemon instead of going to the Pokecenter next to Mt. Moon, as I screwed up the warp when I moved it.

The other problems were mostly tile things or movement permissions errors. Although if you want, Kudo, I'll see if I can make a 'developer's version' of the game when there's 99 Masterballs on the ground so that we can just rush through the game to check for errors. That would obliterate and difficulty testing we would do, but insofar as bug checking I think that's a good way to save time.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Pokota on January 15, 2010, 01:59:01 pm
Maps, Warps, etc. are more important than testing battle difficulty in this situation.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Silver on January 15, 2010, 06:21:40 pm
Make it impossible to catch legendaries without Master Ball. Hide Master Balls. Make game epic.

That is all.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on January 15, 2010, 06:24:14 pm
We could actually set them all to a 1 capture rate, which is basically impossible without a Master Ball. I'll look into it, but we may or may not do that.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Pokota on January 15, 2010, 07:25:40 pm
While we're at it, why not give some of my personal favorites - Zubat, Weedle, Magikarp, Dunsparce, anything used by the criminal team(s)... why not have them have a frustratingly low catch rate, too?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: yoshi on January 15, 2010, 08:51:27 pm
lol dunsparce.
what a fail of a pokemon.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Pokota on January 15, 2010, 09:10:51 pm
Not quite as fail with Serene Grace, but still not something viable in competitive battling.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Rad on January 15, 2010, 09:14:15 pm
Make every attack on Magikarp ineffective.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Dagnarok on January 15, 2010, 09:31:49 pm
Make Splash infict damage?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Silver on January 15, 2010, 09:45:11 pm
Make every attack on Magikarp ineffective.
This. Start us off with one if possible.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on January 15, 2010, 09:53:21 pm
Make every attack on Magikarp ineffective.

MAGIKARP POWER
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on January 15, 2010, 10:00:44 pm
Make every attack on Magikarp ineffective.

The idea for Magikarp has been set long ago. Sorry.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: OLDGREG on January 16, 2010, 03:01:50 am
lol dunsparce.
what a fail of a pokemon.

whooper is more fail
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Pokota on January 16, 2010, 12:23:20 pm
Wooper is the original Mudkip. Don't you DARE knock it. [/srs]
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on January 16, 2010, 12:28:33 pm
We could actually set them all to a 1 capture rate, which is basically impossible without a Master Ball. I'll look into it, but we may or may not do that.
Capture rate 1 isn't that bad. It just takes a really fucking long time. I was playing an old hack with a CR1 Mewtwo, and it took 5 hours total to nab the bastard.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Fidel CashFlow on January 16, 2010, 01:28:16 pm
wait wait wait.
there will be more than 1 master ball?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Silver on January 16, 2010, 01:37:35 pm
wait wait wait.
there will be more than 1 master ball?
I proposed that there be a perfect number: 1 for every legendary.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on January 16, 2010, 01:57:29 pm
There may be. In the 'player' version of the game, most likely there will only be 1 - perhaps I might hide a few more to make things interesting, but considering that we're going to have many legendaries as wild pokemon (since most of them can't be caught normally), and many of them are being changed anyway, I don't think 1 Master Ball per legendary is the best way to go.

Mostly because just using a Master Ball on every legendary kind of ruins the fun of catching it the hard way.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Pokota on January 16, 2010, 02:03:30 pm
In other words, one guaranteed master ball like usual?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on January 16, 2010, 02:06:13 pm
Most likely, yes. But you might get lucky and find another.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Fidel CashFlow on January 16, 2010, 03:09:43 pm
Do you guys plan on releaseing any information when the game is out?
Like... any maps to show what you changed, any of the locations for things etc etc?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on January 16, 2010, 03:54:17 pm
Do you guys plan on releaseing any information when the game is out?
Like... any maps to show what you changed, any of the locations for things etc etc?

Perhaps a detailed strategy guide after the game is released? Maybe, or I can just post all the logs and stuff so everyone will see what was planned, what was removed, what worked well, etc.

Obviously not until after it's released, and maybe after a few more changed versions.

We're not sure yet really.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on January 16, 2010, 03:56:13 pm
We were actually talking about that via PM. Kudo pretty much covered it, but so far as the first release goes: It's not going to happen then. Maybe later.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on January 23, 2010, 12:30:43 am
IT'S BEEN TOO LONG SINCE I'VE MADE A PUBLIC UPDATE

I've done nothing, that is all.

Ok so here's the status:

: show
1.) Change Moves Considered Done Meaning this can still be added, but it's fine how it is really.

2.) Text Not Started

3.) Sprites (Collection/Creation) ~35-55% done (whoop dee doo, 5 fucking percent)

4.) Sprites Insertion 1% (Since you're all curious, it's just the Dugtrio Penis as that requires no palette changing whatsoever; I had to use something as a test).

5.) Pokemon 7% (Warning, due to adding additional ideas, this percentage might actually go DOWN keep in mind that's still a sign that work is being done...not that I lost my work or the data became corrupt etc.).

6.) Additional Scripts Not Started (This is where my laziness kicks in as far as working, but dammit I'll get to it)

7.) Pokemon Teams
Planning: ~55-75% (Oh come on, it's advanced AT LEAST 10% by now, but obviously there's much more to be done)
Insertion: Not Started (Actually I might work on this earlier than expected, just for a difficulty curve test)

8.) *OPTIONAL* Music Not Started (Sorry, but I'm not even going to research on it until everything else above is complete).

9.) Finishing touches. Not Started (Obviously, is it even possible to do FINISHING touches first?)

10.) General Testing with Venser + Unknown Tester (Not someone on IWBTF, just to prevent leaks) Not Started
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kitty on January 23, 2010, 02:50:24 pm
...oops. I'll get my team to you guys soon! D:
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: GuyWithPasta on January 24, 2010, 06:00:35 pm
10.) General Testing with Venser + Unknown Tester (Not someone on IWBTF, just to prevent leaks)
Unknown Tester (Not someone on IWBTF, just to prevent leaks)
Not someone on IWBTF

FFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

wah!
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Pokota on January 24, 2010, 10:27:45 pm
Leaks are bad. If you have leaks you should call a plumber. I hear that there's a certain one from Brooklyn that's looking for a job at the moment. Says some kid in a blue shirt and red cape put him out of the heroing business.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: JCM on January 25, 2010, 08:18:26 pm
I love Pokemon, so I have high hopes for this game.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Nicholas J.A. on January 27, 2010, 09:20:30 pm
sounds kind of cool
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: OLDGREG on January 27, 2010, 10:01:51 pm
sounds kind of cool
Do you care to elaborate as to why you find is "kind of cool?"
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on January 27, 2010, 10:20:12 pm
sounds kind of cool
Do you care to elaborate as to why you find it "kind of cool?"
>.>

Anyway, I wonder how many people have read through the whole thread.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Fidel CashFlow on January 28, 2010, 12:25:39 am
I wonder how many people are mad that they arent in it...
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: OLDGREG on January 28, 2010, 12:45:01 am
Didn't they try to include all the regulars? I mean just because they aren't a gym leader doesn't mean they won't be in it..
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on January 28, 2010, 08:26:42 am
Didn't they try to include all the regulars? I mean just because they aren't a gym leader doesn't mean they won't be in it..
But we're the ones with the unfair teams. ^o^
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Fidel CashFlow on January 28, 2010, 12:56:07 pm
Didn't they try to include all the regulars? I mean just because they aren't a gym leader doesn't mean they won't be in it..
Guests?
Newbies?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: OLDGREG on January 28, 2010, 04:55:20 pm
It'd be funny if they had something about guests always printing shit.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on January 28, 2010, 04:57:17 pm
Well, actually... >_>
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Dagnarok on January 28, 2010, 06:37:45 pm
Well, actually... >_>

I KNEW IT!!
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on January 28, 2010, 08:18:30 pm
Well, actually... >_>

I KNEW IT!!
Hmm...knew what exactly?

NO NEWS HERE MOVE ALONG.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on February 05, 2010, 11:45:45 pm
Updates?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on February 05, 2010, 11:49:14 pm
NO NEWS HERE MOVE ALONG.

: show
But for serious, I have no idea how the work is progressing. Kudo has it.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on February 05, 2010, 11:58:47 pm
Due to some technical difficulties (inb4bullshit) I haven't progressed much. So otherwise...

NO NEWS HERE MOVE ALONG.

: show
I think I already said I'm doing a small skip and doing the trainer editing so venser can get to difficulty testing, so, yes I'm still working on it, just rather slow. Due to some crap about needing to move some stuff to open space. Making a deadline for that alone to be finished by pi day latest. Others will see a greater significance to that date.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: technokidd101 on February 08, 2010, 01:13:50 pm
when are you guys makin the first beta release?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on February 17, 2010, 08:29:01 pm
You guys ARE doing something with slowpoke, right? RIGHT?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Pokota on February 17, 2010, 08:37:39 pm
when are you guys makin the first beta release?

It'll be after ASMT 2 is made public.

Which, sine ASMT 1 is just now getting to beta testing, is going to be a loooooooooooooooongcat of a while.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on February 17, 2010, 09:19:42 pm
I am setting a deadline on myself to finish up all the changes needed for general difficulty testing by the end of this month.

Short yet crucial information.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on February 18, 2010, 01:23:30 am
Good to hear, I'll pester you at the end of the month. ^^

Venser, how're things going on your end?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on February 18, 2010, 12:39:02 pm
I'm finished map editing until Kudo makes a testable version of his work. Other than that, I just need to figure out more cameos, which I've been lagging a bit on lately.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on February 26, 2010, 10:55:09 am
I am setting a deadline on myself to finish up all the changes needed for general difficulty testing by the end of this month.
So.... how's it going? Is my team too broken? D:
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on February 26, 2010, 11:00:09 am
I haven't difficulty tested yet. Besides which, we can't alter IVs, as we've said multiple times, so I highly doubt it will be too much of a problem.

But we'll see. Also, we're going to change one of your pokemon due to two changes we're making, but I'm sure you'll approve when you see it.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on February 26, 2010, 11:16:58 am
Mmmmk. If there is any type or BST changes let me know.

Can you raise the level a few to compensate for low IVs? This also ensures that Lapras is effective against a level grinded team.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on February 26, 2010, 12:12:42 pm
I'm going to be difficulty testing soon, and I'll see what needs to be done with the levels then. Level grinding is something we're looking to avoid, since it makes the game unfun, so what we're trying to do is make it so that things are hard without level grinding but not impossible.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on February 26, 2010, 12:52:24 pm
Good to hear. ^^

Does each gym leader have a cameo poke on his/he team or is dependant on what we picked?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Jksnxia on February 26, 2010, 01:24:59 pm
wait, what version of pokemon? diamond/pearl?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: rock on February 26, 2010, 01:26:30 pm
wait, what version of pokemon? diamond/pearl?
Go read the first post TARD
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Jksnxia on February 26, 2010, 01:32:51 pm
i did, diamond? someone mentioned something else later
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on February 26, 2010, 02:23:49 pm
I updated the first post. It's a FireRed hack.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on February 26, 2010, 11:42:22 pm
Good to hear. ^^

Does each gym leader have a cameo poke on his/he team or is dependent on what we picked?

It's dependent on what you guys all picked. Although I did throw in a nice amount of custom attacks every here and there.


...I just realized I threw in every gym leader team EXCEPT yours. Perhaps I should do that now

EDIT: Done with that, and some text editing so the names will be right for the first half or so. Gotta finish the rest of the trainers and am delaying the deadline by a week. This is also due to some non-related work on the side I have to finish up. Now let's see who sees this edit first.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on February 28, 2010, 08:30:29 pm
Considering that editing the last post registers the thread as new again, it's not too big a stretch.

That said, I'll be ready to do some serious testing soon.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Pokota on February 28, 2010, 09:02:52 pm
I'm getting hard and wet (at the same time) in anticipation. Let us know how the testing turns out!
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: platinum on March 01, 2010, 12:56:08 am
when will this be finished?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on March 01, 2010, 12:32:04 pm
I'm interested to hear how my team plays in the AI's hands. After all, we've only done extensive theory-crafting at this point.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kitty on March 02, 2010, 03:42:15 pm
My team is spectacular.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Dagnarok on March 03, 2010, 06:57:21 pm
My team is all over the place.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: DraconicDescendant on March 03, 2010, 10:28:53 pm
My team demands cakes and fine wines.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Pokota on March 03, 2010, 11:13:53 pm
My team demands liquid to give me cake.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: yoshi on March 03, 2010, 11:17:17 pm
I don't have a team :(
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Mort, the Lonely on March 04, 2010, 10:30:18 am
My team brings all the boys to the yard and their like, it's better than yours, damn right, it's better than yours, I could beat ya, but I'd have to charge (my hyperbeam)
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on March 04, 2010, 10:37:53 pm
My team is hopefully that one team. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ThatOneBoss)
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on March 05, 2010, 09:33:08 pm
My team is hopefully that one team. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ThatOneBoss)

Actually at the moment it seems like Draco's is, but otherwise I'm still nerfing some things and changing the regular trainers.

Estimated Time- 2 Days, Venser shall get the copy Sunday whether I finish with all the trainers or not (just to keep the project moving)
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Dagnarok on March 05, 2010, 09:41:24 pm
I think my team would be the easiest, seeiing that I... actually I shouldn't say that.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on March 05, 2010, 09:43:00 pm
My team is hopefully that one team. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ThatOneBoss)

Actually at the moment it seems like Draco's is, but otherwise I'm still nerfing some things and changing the regular trainers.

Estimated Time- 2 Days, Venser shall get the copy Sunday whether I finish with all the trainers or not (just to keep the project moving)
Yay, Venser can test soon. My team wasn't too broken? :O
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on March 05, 2010, 10:16:38 pm
My team is hopefully that one team. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ThatOneBoss)

Actually at the moment it seems like Draco's is, but otherwise I'm still nerfing some things and changing the regular trainers.

Estimated Time- 2 Days, Venser shall get the copy Sunday whether I finish with all the trainers or not (just to keep the project moving)
Yay, Venser can test soon. My team wasn't too broken? :O

I already finished nerfing yours a bit, the rest will be nerfed depending during testing
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: GuyWithPasta on March 05, 2010, 11:34:10 pm
I'd laugh if my team was a bunch of Tangelas.  Is it too late to sumbit a picture for world and battle sprites?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: SilentLoner on March 05, 2010, 11:37:41 pm
What happened with my team, anyways? I remember the team Evan came up with had some problems, but I never submitted any changes...
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on March 05, 2010, 11:49:48 pm
I think we squared away your team with a couple corrections, or Kudo might have just altered it to fit what we needed.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kitty on March 06, 2010, 12:59:26 am
I might want to mess with my team's moveset a little bit, but they're good otherwise. :3
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on March 06, 2010, 03:35:21 am
My team is hopefully that one team. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ThatOneBoss)

Actually at the moment it seems like Draco's is, but otherwise I'm still nerfing some things and changing the regular trainers.

Estimated Time- 2 Days, Venser shall get the copy Sunday whether I finish with all the trainers or not (just to keep the project moving)
Yay, Venser can test soon. My team wasn't too broken? :O

I already finished nerfing yours a bit, the rest will be nerfed depending during testing
To the proposed nerfs discussed in PMs or even further?

I don't think it'll be as bad as it looks because the first two fights will prep you for it. Does that make sense?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on March 06, 2010, 09:24:28 pm
To the proposed, yes, any other changes I can't remember off the top of my head. But it's getting there.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on March 07, 2010, 03:09:01 am
What level is the lapras? Theoretically, a uber level wouldn't be TOO broken because it has abyssmal speed and doesn't directly attack you.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: DraconicDescendant on March 07, 2010, 03:37:40 pm
Are you going to do anything with the casinos? I know this isn't the right time to be asking about this, but if there's anything you overlooked then I wouldn't want it to be the casino.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Fidel CashFlow on March 07, 2010, 03:39:46 pm
Are you going to do anything with the casinos? I know this isn't the right time to be asking about this, but if there's anything you overlooked then I wouldn't want it to be the casino.
This.

Also, will there be a list of the locations of the pokemon? Or will the pokedex tell us the correct location?
I remebr playing a hack and the pokedex's location thingy was wrong as a result of the hacking...
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on March 07, 2010, 07:45:45 pm
Hmm...the casino...

...I did do some altering in the Rocket Hideout in the casino, but there were some scripts in there that I screwed up by editing originally, and I had to revert it and make much smaller, more cosmetic changes. As for the actual casino itself, I don't believe that got edited at all, but we'll take a look at it.

As for the pokedex, I think it's likely that it will be wrong. As Kudo said, we might eventually release something that tells you where things are, but you'll be on your own at first. We might drop some hints if you really need them, though...
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on March 07, 2010, 09:54:22 pm
Ah the Casino...I didn't do anything to it map-wise


But I've changed at least 80% of the Grunts to play a little...differently, and much less repetitive when it comes to what you'll be facing. Be ready to face almost anything there...

Will upload to Venser later tonight, still doing some last second changes but it's ready enough for a difficulty test.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on March 07, 2010, 09:56:26 pm
YES FINALLY I'M SO READY FOR THIS SHIT

It should still be small enough for a drop.io upload if you want to use there; if you want something else that's fine too, but I like drop.io for convenience and speed.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on March 08, 2010, 11:13:07 am
Ah the Casino...I didn't do anything to it map-wise


But I've changed at least 80% of the Grunts to play a little...differently, and much less repetitive when it comes to what you'll be facing. Be ready to face almost anything there...

Will upload to Venser later tonight, still doing some last second changes but it's ready enough for a difficulty test.
Rocket Grunt wants to fight. Rocket Grunt sent out Mewtwo. Go Ivysaur!

I'm looking forward to this as well. ^^
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on March 08, 2010, 07:49:04 pm
Alright, I sent it, but will still be changing it on this end.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on March 08, 2010, 11:19:59 pm
I'm changing it on this end to fix bugs that I notice and correct errors that I made, so keep that in mind. <_<

I'll give you a report and a new file each time I beat a Leader, but dammit the first gym leader is hard with my starter. >_>
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on March 09, 2010, 12:16:36 am
Hmm...should do more work on leading up to the gym leaders to avoid the whole need to grind, up the EXP rate should do it, but I fear that would make it too easy and everyone will over-prepare.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on March 09, 2010, 08:24:48 am
I'd say an easy fix for this would to be leaving the EXP rate as it is, but adding several more trainers along the way.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Arkhanno on March 10, 2010, 02:40:49 pm
Moar double battles if you're going to add more trainers. That was always a part of the game that was fun but was underused.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Dagnarok on March 10, 2010, 09:10:37 pm
Moar double battles if you're going to add more trainers. That was always a part of the game that was fun but was underused.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on March 11, 2010, 09:46:57 am
It's a good thing we're fixing this, because I'm finding a lot of areas where I messed up. Hell, this really isn't even a difficulty test at this point; it's more of a bug-fixing test for me. Which is going pretty well so far. But I love Kudo's edited text, if only there was more of it. <_< >_>
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on March 13, 2010, 07:49:51 pm
So how's it going so far?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on March 18, 2010, 08:12:29 pm
I'm too lazy busy replaying Soul Silver to get any work on this done until the weekend.

Moar double battles if you're going to add more trainers. That was always a part of the game that was fun but was underused.

CONSIDER IT DONE.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on March 23, 2010, 01:06:30 am
So I heard we like updates.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Silver on March 23, 2010, 08:21:01 am
So I heard we like updates. BUMP
So we put a bump in your bump.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on March 23, 2010, 07:21:42 pm
Sorry, I'm too busy finishing this quarter's work up, since I was out three days last week and the quarter ends tomorrow. Thursday I should be able to get some stuff done again.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on March 23, 2010, 08:31:46 pm
Can we have some teaser screenies? :3
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on March 23, 2010, 10:06:52 pm
Can we have some teaser screenies? :3

: show
No. (http://img.youtube.com/vi/jpg0k7GMzKI/0.jpg)
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Mort, the Lonely on March 24, 2010, 06:36:07 am
Don't know if it's already been suggested, but can you replace Magikarps 'Splash' with a really devestating attack, so he's actually a challenge to catch?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: patrickgh on March 24, 2010, 10:13:15 am
or, if you're changing all the pokemon's names and sprites, you could have a really devastating-looking pokemon that uses splash, as a joke
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Jksnxia on March 24, 2010, 02:59:27 pm
Can we have some teaser screenies? :3

: show
No. (http://img.youtube.com/vi/jpg0k7GMzKI/0.jpg)


aw i was getting excited when I saw a spoiler....
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on March 24, 2010, 03:35:49 pm
I did post a teaser screenie somewhere earlier in the thread if you choose to look for it. I believe Evan's already seen it, though.

EDIT:

(http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/3499/iwbtpscsht1.jpg)
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: bisunasu on March 24, 2010, 05:19:30 pm
Well, the highly cliche name aside, I think this has some serious potential. I have found a working Diamond ROM and a Pokemon editor tool for it that allows me to change quite a lot of the data. Pretty much everything short of the name (which should be easy to replace via hex editing) and the sprite (which can't be done via hex editing as far as I know, but we may be able to find an editor for it).

So far, I've managed to make a game where Chimchar, Monferno and Infernape all have 255 base stats. Obviously, that's the one I picked as starter. I basically just ripped everything apart; eventually I'm hoping to make it to the Great Marsh. At the Great Marsh, I have it programmed to have a 70% encounter rate for a 255-statted Sableye with Wonderguard (basically, that means he's invulnerable.)

UPDATE: The hacked ROM is FireRed. It's currently in development.

Screenshots:

: A small piece of Route 4 • show

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Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on March 24, 2010, 05:21:37 pm
Quote from: My last post
« Last Edit: Today at 05:30:36 PM by Venser »

Quote from: OP
« Last Edit: Today at 05:32:14 PM by Venser »
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on March 24, 2010, 08:25:43 pm
Can we have some teaser screenies? :3

No. (http://img.youtube.com/vi/jpg0k7GMzKI/0.jpg)


aw i was getting excited when I saw a spoiler....

Did you bother CLICKING on that "No."?

Also I'd like to do an overhaul to the OP sometime. I'll make it while Venser is still testing.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on March 24, 2010, 08:29:15 pm
Just let me know how you want it edited, or give me the postcode for a new OP if you want to write it yourself.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on March 24, 2010, 08:30:41 pm
Just let me know how you want it edited, or give me the postcode for a new OP if you want to write it yourself.

I'll just PM/post what I want it to be edited to here. Later.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Silver on March 25, 2010, 04:03:55 pm
LET IT BE KNOWN

: show
This must appear somewhere in the game.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on March 25, 2010, 04:05:25 pm
LET IT BE KNOWN

: show
This must appear somewhere in the game.

Agreed.

Seriously, do it.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: yoshi on March 25, 2010, 05:36:58 pm
Also, take out those professor aides.
I hate them, making me catch for hms D:<
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Mort, the Lonely on March 25, 2010, 05:52:17 pm
LET IT BE KNOWN

This must appear somewhere in the game.

Agreed.

Seriously, do it.

Maybe just a signpost somewhere that says

LET IT BE KNOWN!

You are reading this sign

or something like that.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Jksnxia on March 26, 2010, 12:16:16 pm
that looks pretty cool, so basically you're making another pokemon game? you need to defeat the elite four to win the game? (sorry if I'm repeating questions or something I don't want to read 40+ pages.....)
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: ·Arturo· on March 26, 2010, 01:55:37 pm
As much as I'd love to do something like this I have no time to do it here and don't believe I'll be able to get a ROM for anything other than Pokemon Pinball here

But I will request a "Cooltrainer Arturo" or something like that
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Fidel CashFlow on March 27, 2010, 02:18:05 am
that looks pretty cool, so basically you're making another pokemon game? you need to defeat the elite four to win the game? (sorry if I'm repeating questions or something I don't want to read 40+ pages.....)
Its Pokemon firered.... but with aesthetic/gameplay changes.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on March 29, 2010, 11:06:16 am
*pokes*

anything?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on March 29, 2010, 08:42:02 pm
*pokes*

anything?

Waiting for Venser. I make the changes are he lists the problems. (and fixes his own problems).

So yar.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on March 30, 2010, 11:29:06 am
Just let me get to Spring Break, dammit, then I can just spend a day or two and play the whole damn game through.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on April 03, 2010, 07:47:20 pm
JUST IN, it is now Spring Break. And I already know Venser is working harder on the testing

*cracks whip* I KNOW HE IS. (Meanwhile, I shall be playing Platinum, if I finish before he does, there are problems since I only have two badges right now).
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on April 03, 2010, 09:26:28 pm
Any updated list of the planned non-gym regular cameos?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on April 03, 2010, 09:40:48 pm
Too be honest, we haven't done much work on those lately. (But even if we have, would we really release it?) And I'm really just lazing about right now...fuck it, I'll look into the script system.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on April 03, 2010, 10:18:49 pm
Can Arturo be a miniboss in my Gym? :3
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: GuyWithPasta on April 04, 2010, 12:32:23 am
JUST IN, it is now Spring Break. And I already know Venser is working harder on the testing

*cracks whip* I KNOW HE IS. (Meanwhile, I shall be playing Platinum, if I finish before he does, there are problems since I only have two badges right now).
Be sure to shine those badges!  They get all muddy somehow and they don't ding!  like they're supposed to.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: DraconicDescendant on April 04, 2010, 12:34:51 am
Yeah! I just can't go without polishing my badges! I make sure they shine with sparkles!

I just can't stand it when I can't play my badges like a xylophone!
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: platinum on April 04, 2010, 12:48:13 am
...........
(mulling over whether that was really bad sarcasm or idiotic reality.)
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on April 04, 2010, 12:57:53 am
I have to debug this shit while I play it, give me some time. <_<
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on April 04, 2010, 01:07:17 am
Mmmk.

Post your thoughts on the difficulty/composition of each segment. ^^
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on April 04, 2010, 01:12:37 am
NEVAR

EXCEPT THE WHOLE THING IS TOO EASY

EXCEPT FOR THE FIRST GYM LEADER

THAT WAS HARD

AFTER THAT IT WAS EASY

TOO EASY

MASHING ENTER WITH CAPSLOCK = COOL
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on April 04, 2010, 01:15:35 am
HELL YEAH BRO!

PUT IN MY EXTREMESPEED DRAGONITE, THAT WILL FIX YOUR DIFFICULTY PROBLEM!
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on April 04, 2010, 01:17:48 am
WELL, TO BE HONEST, KUDO'S ALTERATIONS FUCKING SURPRISED ME

I DID NOT EXPECT TO BE OHKO'D BY RANDOM WILD POKEMON

BUT IT'S HAPPENED A FEW TIMES

EVEN SO IT'S EASY
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on April 04, 2010, 01:28:23 am
IF I HAD MY WAY, MY GYM WOULD MAKE GOD EXIST AND WEEP TEARS OF BLOOD!

GOOD THING I DON'T HAVE MY WAY.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on April 04, 2010, 01:33:41 pm
WELL, TO BE HONEST, KUDO'S ALTERATIONS FUCKING SURPRISED ME

I DID NOT EXPECT TO BE OHKO'D BY RANDOM WILD POKEMON

BUT IT'S HAPPENED A FEW TIMES

EVEN SO IT'S EASY

Yeah, should've mentioned something about those base stat changes to match the pokemon we changed.

I'LL PUMP UP MORE OF THE TRAINERS THEN

AND MAKE THE GYMS MORE "FUCK YOU"-ISH THAN BEFORE

AND MAKE CATCH-RATES RAGE WORTHY

THEN IT WON'T BE EASY
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on April 04, 2010, 01:54:48 pm
I WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO SUGGEST MAKING THE CATCH RATE ON THAT OHKO THING LOWER

BECAUSE AS OF RIGHT NOW I'M JUST RUNNING AROUND WITH 6 OF THEM OHKOING EVERYTHING

NOT REALLY, BUT I COULD IF I WANTED TO
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on April 04, 2010, 03:01:41 pm
I DON'T RECALL MAKING ANYTHING SO BRO-

Is it the J-thing?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on April 04, 2010, 03:54:25 pm
NO SIR

IT IS THE THING WHICH I PLACED IN THE GRASS

I TOLD YOU OF IT SEVERAL TIMES

OUTSIDE OF THE ROCK TUNNEL

YOU KNOW THE PLACE
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: DraconicDescendant on April 04, 2010, 04:02:38 pm
I'LL PUMP UP MORE OF THE TRAINERS THEN

AND MAKE THE GYMS MORE "FUCK YOU"-ISH THAN BEFORE

AND MAKE CATCH-RATES RAGE WORTHY

THEN IT WON'T BE EASY

OH JOY, I'LL GET THE BOOZE.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on April 04, 2010, 04:27:22 pm
OH THAT THING

WELL POKECENTERS ARE CLOSE SO I GUESS IT IS JUST THE CATCH RATE

BUT THE J-THING IS SO MUCH MORE BROKEN STAT-WISE

BUT IT WOULD RUIN THE TEST TO TELL YOU
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on April 04, 2010, 04:47:25 pm
OH SHIT

I START WHIPPIN' MAH POKEMANZ IN SHAPE THEN

I'LL PROBABLY SEE ONE OF THOSE SOON

OR MORE LIKE WHENEVER I WANT TO LULZ

also please don't tell me you gave them 255 in all stats D:
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on April 04, 2010, 05:01:14 pm
OH SHIT

I START WHIPPIN' MAH POKEMANZ IN SHAPE THEN

I'LL PROBABLY SEE ONE OF THOSE SOON

OR MORE LIKE WHENEVER I WANT TO LULZ

also please don't tell me you gave them 255 in all stats D:

NOPE

I DON'T THINK YOU'LL SEE VERY MANY OF THEM AT ALL

BUT YOU'LL KNOW WHEN YOU FIND IT

and of course not, I'm not that much of an asshole.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on April 04, 2010, 05:02:56 pm
WELL I COULD ALWAYS PUT ONE IN SOME GRASS I'M ABOUT TO GO INTO FOR LULZ

YOU KNOW, I DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO EDIT THIS SHIT
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: GuyWithPasta on April 04, 2010, 06:03:37 pm
YOU SHOULD TOTALLY HAVE A PATH FULL OF TRAINERS SO THAT THEY KEEP BLOCKING OFF THE PATH.

Would you two mind if I made my own sprite for my battle?
Make sure it has 24 colors maximum 8 colors minimum, make sure it isn't larger than 64(width)x80(height). Other than that, go ahead.
Is that the specs for in Battle or in the field?
My mistake, 64x64, for in-battle. In-field is...still 24 color limit, but 14(width)x20(height) approx.
Measurements are in pixels.
Also, is it too late to make my own sprites?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on April 05, 2010, 12:15:48 pm
No, you can still make your own sprites if you want. Just make sure to send them to Kudo soon.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: GuyWithPasta on April 05, 2010, 04:41:35 pm
What format should I use?  As in jpg or png?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on April 05, 2010, 06:03:19 pm
What format should I use?  As in jpg or png?

.png or .bmp

second thought, just stick with .png (.jpg will probably screw up the quality anyway)
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: GuyWithPasta on April 05, 2010, 07:21:52 pm
Aaaaaand done!  I'm still thinking if I should even change the overworld sprite.

EDIT: Also, is it too similar to Giovanni?  All I did was change his face, put his hand in the pocket, and added a tie for good measure.  If it's too similar, I'll make another one.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: DraconicDescendant on April 05, 2010, 10:34:53 pm
If somebody beats a gym with a OHKO Pokemon, could you make it so they would be rewarded with the Pussy Badge?

Also, if somebody beats the Elite Four (Why don't they call it the Elite Five? The Champion thing kind of defeats the purpose of only four Elites.) using a team of only OHKO Pokemon, could they become the King of Pussies?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Dagnarok on April 05, 2010, 10:39:28 pm
I would laugh so hard if that happened. XD
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on April 05, 2010, 10:43:35 pm
We could just lower the accuracy of OHKO moves. Or lower the PP, which makes more sense to me. That way wild pokemon with them would still be dangerous, but they wouldn't be all that useful to you.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on April 06, 2010, 12:08:32 am
Aaaaaand done!  I'm still thinking if I should even change the overworld sprite.

EDIT: Also, is it too similar to Giovanni?  All I did was change his face, put his hand in the pocket, and added a tie for good measure.  If it's too similar, I'll make another one.

....you have no IDEA how this easy this will be for me when I make over-world sprites. I SAY WE KEEP IT.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on April 06, 2010, 01:51:16 am
I don't mind what you do with my sprite, just don't let it stay the same as normal.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on April 06, 2010, 02:13:22 am
GWP has given me inspiration on what to do with your sprite:
: show
(http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/9800/evaninbattle.png)

...kidding
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on April 06, 2010, 04:58:49 am
(http://img.moronail.net/img/9/1/191.jpg)
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: GuyWithPasta on April 06, 2010, 05:11:57 pm
I'll create another one, if you want me to.  It was actually quite enjoyable when everything worked out.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Drew on April 07, 2010, 10:34:44 pm
Is it too late to be one of the trainers on the routes? I know I'm not a regular, but I think this is cool & wanna be a part of it.
PLLEEEEAAAAASSSE???
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on April 11, 2010, 10:20:55 pm
Is it too late to be one of the trainers on the routes? I know I'm not a regular, but I think this is cool & wanna be a part of it.
PLLEEEEAAAAASSSE???

First things first.

VENSER ARE YOU DONE YET?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on April 12, 2010, 11:20:13 am
No, I've been working on debugging some areas I fucked up.

[begins playing in class]
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on April 12, 2010, 12:44:11 pm
How are the first few fights with me?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Fidel CashFlow on April 12, 2010, 06:40:48 pm
Just increase the fuck out of the gym leaders' stats.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: GuyWithPasta on April 12, 2010, 07:24:24 pm
Again, I state the fact that I can and will create avatars for others and, if they so chose, the creators requests as well.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: DraconicDescendant on April 12, 2010, 11:42:52 pm
Can you do one for me? I look vaguely like Lelouch, so base it off of him unless you're into it enough to do a black dragon or something.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: GuyWithPasta on April 13, 2010, 12:19:38 am
Right, I'll get to work... later.  I ain't doing it at 12:30 in the morning!
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on April 16, 2010, 09:16:46 pm
Reminds me, I should get to work on Neo's sprite.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: platinum on April 16, 2010, 09:34:10 pm
Is it too late to be one of the trainers on the routes? I know I'm not a regular, but I think this is cool & wanna be a part of it.
PLLEEEEAAAAASSSE???
could i possibly be one too? and if you can't tell, this is spriter.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on April 17, 2010, 11:32:53 am
Someone should film up to the first gym leader for gameplay.

Progress, Venser? Balance and bugs?
Kudo, will every single cameo/member get s resprite or just some?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on April 17, 2010, 11:43:04 am
Sorry, I got distracted by Cave Story part of the way through my debugging. I'll get back on it so that I can fix this damn Rock Tunnel and get through it and continue playing.

But again, the game is wildly imbalanced. The way we have the first gym leader set, the leveling curve needs a serious bump up to be anything of a challenge. As it is now, the only hard thing is the first gym leader; after that, it's just an easy coast through.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on April 17, 2010, 11:44:45 am
Will everything else be scaled up, or will the beginning be scaled down?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on April 17, 2010, 11:47:53 am
Probably a little bit of both.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Miracle on April 18, 2010, 03:16:04 pm
I wanna be Seximon
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Fidel CashFlow on April 18, 2010, 03:22:05 pm
Touhoumon was quite the difficult Pokemon game. Learn from it :P
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Arkhanno on April 18, 2010, 03:44:34 pm
I didn't find Touhoumon that difficult, honestly. Patchouli raped everything that came in front of her until a little over half way through the game, then she started getting OHKOed by just about everything that out sped her. At that point you just keep her as a back-up in case of trouble.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on April 18, 2010, 04:20:38 pm
I approve of Touhoumon level difficulty, after all, it wouldn't be right having something come from this forum that doesn't cause a few ragequits.
Give me back my Extremespeed Dragonite!
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on April 18, 2010, 10:41:29 pm
I didn't find Touhoumon that difficult, honestly. Patchouli raped everything that came in front of her until a little over half way through the game, then she started getting OHKOed by just about everything that out sped her. At that point you just keep her as a back-up in case of trouble.

This was Lunatic edition where end-game, the Elite Four packs all level 100s correct?
As it is, Patchouli is only 60 base, it's not surprising everything out sped her. Since Blue Mary leads with LWRemilia, that'd cause some problems (at least double base speed, and dark/flying).
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on April 19, 2010, 12:51:59 am
Lunatic Touhoumon was outright controller toss worthy at the end. The RNG hated you along with an uphill fight against almost everything.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Arkhanno on April 19, 2010, 01:52:48 am
With proper planning and anticipation (IE kill everything before it has a chance to kill me) I didn't find Lunatic to be as difficult as people say it is. Of course, I had to actually look up the stats of all the Touhoumon and choose which ones I wanted to use and grind in anticipation of trainers/gym leaders as well as carefully select moves, but it still wasn't that difficult. I was either just below or at the level of trainers/gym leaders. Due to the amount of grinding I stopped playing it after a while. It was cheap, but difficult isn't the word to describe it.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on April 19, 2010, 08:24:43 am
See, grinding makes any game really easy. At the elite four, my mons were in their high 80s, low 90s.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on April 19, 2010, 08:09:51 pm
In a game such as POKEMON, grinding does make everything easy...beyond easy actually. It's only difficulty when you try throwing an extra challenge on it, like how I try to go through a pokemon game relatively low-leveled (for examples sake, SoulSilver, the curve of difficulty from Bugsy maybe only a couple levels lower, until you approach Blue/Green with low-40s. And Red is straight up impossible after that, even Steelix gets OHKO'd).

Too make it worse, F.E.A.R. is not allowed. (for obvious reasons) I cheered the day I beat Red with my high-50s team with crappy nature & IVs in-game team. (although the IVs I got for Platinum...just ridiculous)

Back to Touhoumon...
Lunatic Touhoumon was outright controller toss worthy at the end. The RNG hated you along with an uphill fight against almost everything.
This sums up everything. Especially since I'm more of a "fuck the guide and online stats, I can plan this shit on my own."

Kinda annoys me when I hear all these people going "lul, Red was easy." and you ask for their team and it's something like all 90s or level 100s. Facepalm worthy really.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on April 19, 2010, 08:17:53 pm
I only beat Red in my illegitamate HG/SS by getting Dragon Dance onto Tyranitar. He didn't really have an answer to that, but it would have likely been stupidly harder outside of that. It may shock you all to hear this from me, but I usually don't munchkin up after I've cleared the game(s) a few times and am wanting more depth to them.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on April 19, 2010, 08:58:23 pm
I only beat Red in my illegitamate HG/SS by getting Dragon Dance onto Tyranitar. He didn't really have an answer to that, but it would have likely been stupidly harder outside of that. It may shock you all to hear this from me, but I usually don't munchkin up after I've cleared the game(s) a few times and am wanting more depth to them.

Iron Tail & Light Ball question this T-Tar. (and the fact that it's rock and not ground, meaning no STAB from EQ, as it is, my Steelix couldn't even kill that damn Pikachu in one hit). Then again...items...you can basically get through any of it. Although it does do some nice things in getting rid of hail...since his next 3 pokemon simply spam Blizzard
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Fidel CashFlow on April 19, 2010, 09:25:59 pm
It's only difficulty when you try throwing an extra challenge on it
If a Pokemon faints, you have to release it.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: DraconicDescendant on April 19, 2010, 09:26:44 pm
Are you the type of people that actually use Iron Ball as a hold item? Or even Toxic Orb for that matter?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on April 19, 2010, 09:39:18 pm
Toxic Orb is the shit on Breloom.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on April 19, 2010, 09:41:12 pm
Toxic Orb is so damn good on Breloom.... Or Heracross.

Ninja'd
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on April 19, 2010, 10:10:05 pm
Are you the type of people that actually use Iron Ball as a hold item? Or even Toxic Orb for that matter?

Iron Ball can also help for Trick Room *see Blue/Green's Machamp, although useless since it already has Dynamicpunch & Stone Edge* or just trick for that matter, but choice scarf is preferable there.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on April 20, 2010, 10:31:53 am
Also, fling, but that's gimmicky. You can also use it to power up Bronzong's Gyro Ball.

Are you the type of people that actually use Iron Ball as a hold item? Or even Toxic Orb for that matter?

Iron Ball can also help for Trick Room *see Blue/Green's Machamp, although useless since it already has Dynamicpunch & Stone Edge* or just trick for that matter, but choice scarf is preferable there.
I see someone reads Pokemon Special. :p
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on April 20, 2010, 10:41:44 am
Toxic Orb is so damn good on Breloom.... Or Heracross.
Except Burn Orb is always better on Heracross, so...
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on April 20, 2010, 10:47:22 am
Burn Orb cuts attack. =\
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on April 20, 2010, 11:03:49 am
For acting like you know everything about pokemon, your powers of observation are surprisingly weak.

Guts eliminates the attack drop from burning. As well as gives the Guts boost.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on April 20, 2010, 11:06:58 am
I never claimed to know everything. In fact I just looked it up and was just about to edit it that in. I haven't used a flame orb Heracross since D/P dropped in the US, so I'd forgotten. =\
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on April 20, 2010, 08:35:40 pm
Also, fling, but that's gimmicky. You can also use it to power up Bronzong's Gyro Ball.

Are you the type of people that actually use Iron Ball as a hold item? Or even Toxic Orb for that matter?

Iron Ball can also help for Trick Room *see Blue/Green's Machamp, although useless since it already has Dynamicpunch & Stone Edge* or just trick for that matter, but choice scarf is preferable there.
I see someone reads Pokemon Special. :p
Not quite, Blue/Green's Machamp already has fling, as I said though, that's useless because it has Dynamic Punch and Stone Edge. And in the Japanese games, his name really does translate to Green, not Blue. Although I know of the manga too since my gf was obsessed over that thing.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on April 20, 2010, 08:36:44 pm
It really isn't bad. Beats the hell out of the anime anyway. It's more srs business then the show at least.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on April 20, 2010, 08:52:19 pm
It really isn't bad. Beats the hell out of the anime anyway. It's more srs business then the show at least.

Manga was the shit, EVERYONE was badass one way or another. (Because you gotta be badass to beat a Blastoise with a Spearow)

Hard to argue with the anime back in the old (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMTBU_W9ZQk) days (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbhbLrSQKyY&feature=related) though...
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: OLDGREG on April 20, 2010, 09:03:35 pm
What was that about me being awesome?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on April 20, 2010, 09:04:55 pm
It really isn't bad. Beats the hell out of the anime anyway. It's more srs business then the show at least.

Manga was the shit, EVERYONE was badass one way or another. (Because you gotta be badass to beat a Blastoise with a Spearow)

Hard to argue with the anime back in the old (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMTBU_W9ZQk) days (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbhbLrSQKyY&feature=related) though...
I nostalgia'd. I'll never be able to look at Price the same way again in HS/SS after reading the manga.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: yoshi on April 20, 2010, 10:21:37 pm
I'm thinking of putting a Toxic-Orb Umbreon with moonlight to switch in on opponents, and just keep switching to piss them off.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on April 29, 2010, 06:13:30 pm
IWBTP is a pretty cool guy, eh doesn't update and doesn't afraid of anything.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on April 29, 2010, 07:54:50 pm
Son of a bitch, at least I've gotten through Rock Tunnel.

I know, not very far since the last update, but at least I got somewhere. <_<
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on April 29, 2010, 09:43:53 pm
You mentioned it being rather long, so I guess it's something.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on April 29, 2010, 09:56:36 pm
Well, the part that took me a while was debugging it. Actually going through was easy. Removing the need for flash from all the areas in the cave wasn't exactly a walk in the park.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on April 29, 2010, 10:10:54 pm
I can imagine so.

Keep up the progress, even if it's slow. ^^
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on April 29, 2010, 10:23:10 pm
And I'll be grabbin' some sprites while waiting aftersomeothervideogames.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on May 01, 2010, 04:52:00 pm
SON OF A BITCH

Somehow the alterations I made to the rom were reverted a couple of saves back. I still have multiple backup filesaves, but it'll take me a while to fix Rock Tunnel back up. Well, it could be worse...from now on I'm backing it up every time I save, though.

EDIT: Okay, I fixed everything up again. We're good to go. Playing through the game now, passing Lavender Town.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on May 09, 2010, 06:07:48 pm
Finished it yet?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on May 09, 2010, 07:20:13 pm
No, but that probably shouldn't surprise you.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on May 09, 2010, 07:25:53 pm
Not at all, just being overly optimistic.
Where are you?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on May 09, 2010, 07:44:49 pm
I haven't gotten very far. If I remember correctly, I was just getting into the fourth gym.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Woeful Tree on May 09, 2010, 09:13:10 pm
Is it too late for me to be one of the trainers in Draco-Kun's gym?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on May 09, 2010, 09:16:34 pm
Nah, considering how slow I'm going Kudo will have plenty of time to make new notes for new trainers and such.

But at least I'm actually progressing again, not completely stopped like I was before.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on May 09, 2010, 09:21:51 pm
*opens the now dusty list*

K, added to the list of things to do after Venser finishes.

(...off to Touhoumon & Devil Survivor for me)
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on May 09, 2010, 10:53:15 pm
Good to hear. Let me know what the difficulty on my first fight is like. I suspect it will be WAY too easy, as the difficulty was more or less scaled to the original game.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: platinum on May 09, 2010, 11:45:08 pm
can i be a trainer as well then?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on May 10, 2010, 12:38:15 am
can i be a trainer as well then?

You already asked earlier, and I already threw a (rather small) cameo for you.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Toon on May 11, 2010, 09:07:32 pm
Just wondering if I could be a trainer too, closer to the end of the game so I'm harder to beat. I remember when I got my first lv 100...It my first Pokemon too. Good ol' Venusaur...
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on May 11, 2010, 09:12:18 pm
Okay. Beat the fourth gym leader and it was...surprisingly not as much of a cakewalk as the rest of the game has been.

Also, Kudo, for some reason I've used a OHKO move over 30 times and it hasn't hit once. Did you screw with it? I wouldn't imagine so, because a wild pokemon using it hit me with it. <_<

Currently PMing Kudo the current version along with the many bug fixes.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Toon on May 11, 2010, 09:13:03 pm
Was that an ok to me?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on May 11, 2010, 09:14:39 pm
I dunno, talk to Kudo about that.

Also, Kudo, FUCK YOU for the sign edit on the fourth gym. I was in class and I burst out laughing hard while most people were still taking a test.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on May 11, 2010, 09:18:21 pm
Damn it, stop taunting me, Venser!
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Toon on May 11, 2010, 09:19:17 pm
Is Kudo Myu?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on May 11, 2010, 09:21:02 pm
We'll get this finished sooner or later. Probably later, seeing as I have AP tests and senior exams for my senior classes (despite the fact that I'm a junior) for the rest of this week, then I won't have much time this weekend as I'm doing some random stuff with my friends on saturday and I'm working sunday.

Monday I should be able to start playing with renewed vigor, though, as I'll only have one real class that I'll need to pay attention in and one other class I won't be able to use my laptop in. The other four classes should be good for IWBTP.

And yes, Myu~ is Kudo.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Toon on May 11, 2010, 09:22:55 pm
Lucky me with that tornado an all :P And alright, I'll ask em when they come online. Already got a team thought out
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on May 13, 2010, 02:00:14 am
Lucky me with that tornado an all :P And alright, I'll ask em when they come online. Already got a team thought out

PM said team, I'll definitely end up nerfing it however.

Okay. Beat the fourth gym leader and it was...surprisingly not as much of a cakewalk as the rest of the game has been.

Also, Kudo, for some reason I've used a OHKO move over 30 times and it hasn't hit once. Did you screw with it? I wouldn't imagine so, because a wild pokemon using it hit me with it. <_<

Currently PMing Kudo the current version along with the many bug fixes.
I left all the OHKO moves as is, so you're probably just getting really unlucky (keep in mind they won't work unless your level is = or > your opponent's level anyway. Maybe that slipped your mind?)
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Mort, the Lonely on May 13, 2010, 01:33:03 pm
Suggestion - All the items that increase stats (Example, Protein increases the Strength/Attack stat (I think)) should be renamed to drugs, like that one should be 'Steroids', the speed one should be the chemical name for Speed, you get the idea.



Also, I don't want to be a trainer in this, but could I PM one of you a phrase I'd like to have one of the trainers say?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on May 19, 2010, 05:27:25 pm
You can check in with Kudo on that, Richard. He's the one doing the text editing.

Anyway, I seriously fucked up the Rocket Hideout, to the point where I started my save up and my character sprite was replaced by a Team Rocket member while standing still, and a scientist while moving. And I couldn't go through warps. But I think I've got all those problems fixed now, so I can continue playing.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on May 19, 2010, 08:33:40 pm
You can check in with Kudo on that, Richard. He's the one doing the text editing.

Anyway, I seriously fucked up the Rocket Hideout, to the point where I started my save up and my character sprite was replaced by a Team Rocket member while standing still, and a scientist while moving. And I couldn't go through warps. But I think I've got all those problems fixed now, so I can continue playing.

Also, the pokemon fucking with you won't be any glitch.

Suggestion - All the items that increase stats (Example, Protein increases the Strength/Attack stat (I think)) should be renamed to drugs, like that one should be 'Steroids', the speed one should be the chemical name for Speed, you get the idea.

Also, I don't want to be a trainer in this, but could I PM one of you a phrase I'd like to have one of the trainers say?

...I'm going to have to reject the first suggestion (there are other pokemon hacks it would fit in perfectly with though...) Second one, go for it, I'll see what I can do from there.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Alpha on May 20, 2010, 01:44:13 am
Have all the gym leaders and/or potenional characters been claimed?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on May 20, 2010, 08:28:05 am
Gym leaders/E4/Champion, yes. Random trainers, no. (I doubt your team will be very tough though, as random trainers are usually pretty easy. If I'm wrong, feel free to correct me, Kudo/Venser)
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Alpha on May 20, 2010, 02:01:12 pm
That's true. Make me one of those annoying bastards that you can't see till they jump out at you.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: nukeitfromorbit on May 20, 2010, 09:33:51 pm
I'd like to be a random trainer too! Or maybe a pointless Pokemon, maybe a magikarp that doesn't evolve to a gyrados type Pokemon?

You don't have to use "nukeitfromorbit" you could use "Nifo" and I would know what you mean. :)
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on May 20, 2010, 09:49:15 pm
I'd like to be a random trainer too! Or maybe a pointless Pokemon, maybe a magikarp that doesn't evolve to a gyrados type Pokemon?

You don't have to use "nukeitfromorbit" you could use "Nifo" and I would know what you mean. :)

Magikarp & Gyrados I've specially put aside, but maybe I could find something.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Alpha on May 20, 2010, 10:00:29 pm
Have change Metapod's name to "PENIS" occaisionally.

WILD PENIS USED HARDEN

WILD PENIS USED STRING SHOT
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on May 20, 2010, 11:08:49 pm
Have change Metapod's name to "PENIS" occaisionally.

WILD PENIS USED HARDEN

WILD PENIS USED STRING SHOT

I said no to that one MONTHS ago...
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Alpha on May 20, 2010, 11:13:37 pm
Damn. Wasn't around for that, my bad.

Still, I was only half-serious and would've been quite surprised if you'd taken it seriously.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on May 21, 2010, 12:39:27 am
Damn. Wasn't around for that, my bad.

Still, I was only half-serious and would've been quite surprised if you'd taken it seriously.

PRO TIP: Sudowoodo is better
: show
(http://www.halolz.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/halolz-dot-com-pokemon-pokemonisforkids.jpg)
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on May 21, 2010, 12:41:40 am
Oh my god, I lost so hard.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Alpha on May 21, 2010, 12:41:56 am
Oh my god, I lost so hard.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: nukeitfromorbit on May 21, 2010, 06:09:16 am
Pretty much every male Pokemon fan thought Mai was hot once in their life. XD

@iYu Any Pokemon would do fine, I would just like to be apart of the game. :D
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on May 23, 2010, 01:02:21 am
Pretty much every male Pokemon fan thought Mai was hot once in their life. XD

@iYu Any Pokemon would do fine, I would just like to be apart of the game. :D

Just so you know, you'll probably be some random trainer.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Ae Zi on May 23, 2010, 03:02:48 am
Pretty much every male Pokemon fan thought Mai was hot once in their life. XD

@iYu Any Pokemon would do fine, I would just like to be apart of the game. :D

Just so you know, you'll probably be some random trainer.

Can I be in it too :D?

With a kabutops maybe :D?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on May 24, 2010, 11:00:44 pm
Hmm, better set a few limits for now.

OK THEN

Any and all requests for being in IWBTP are due no later than JUNE 9TH Midnight PST (so that'd be June 10th 1:00 AM in MST, 3:00AM in CST, and 4:00AM EST)

What you can request to be:

Random NPC- Tell me what you want them to say, I'll try not to Quartz' it, specific random NPC is also allowed, in that case give me the phrase and location of said NPC (i.e. "stupid carp": a guy in the pokecenter in Vermillion)

Random Trainer- Send me up to 4 pokemon you want on your team, no legendaries, I'll change them accordingly to fit area level. I cannot guarantee you'll use all 4, so if you're going for synergy, stick to two and then two others that can easily support. I CAN guarantee you 2 so tell me your priority for each, who knows, you may get all 4. You can also tell me a location you would like to be in. OR you can just let me do the work and make you something totally random, if you're lucky, you may end up a Rocket Grunt, and those things pack far more than Zubat in this hack, maybe even near Victory Road or a post-Champion area which I don't allow by normal request on location. If unlucky, Viridian Forest welcomes you. If you're one of those people who just goes "Can I be in it?" you'll be a random trainer.

General Character- Think Safari Warden or old tutorial man, S.S. Anne captain, maybe one of the guys blocking the Indigo Plateau or a Fisherman guy who gives a rod. As long as it's not listed below I will probably be ok with it.

What you can NOT request to be:
A Gym Leader (including Giovanni pre-Gym)
The Champion
The Rival

A Nurse Joy (YES I HAVE A PLAN FOR THESE)
Professor Oak
A pokemon (but see below)
Bill


Other possible allowed requests:
A pokemon -Although you yourself may not be a pokemon, you can request something to replace a pokemon, keep in mind many spaces are taken, and colors aren't always so kind on the GBA, so these will have a high rejection rate.

Signs- request type is similar to a specific NPC, tell me which sign and what it should say, as long as it isn't too retarded, it'll probably make it into the game)

Attacks- A lot of these are taken, but if you choose to replace something that I haven't changed yet, you're in luck. Be sure to tell me A.) The type, B.) The base power, C.) The name (you can also choose to just rename a move), D.) special effect (poison, paralysis, sleep, priority, drawback-boost-down, etc.) Nothing too broken though, I will not make you a 255 base power dragon move with priority.

List of people whose places have already been set/requested/taken into account:
Liquid, Venser, Pokota, Oldgreg, Tayloop, Dsk, Kitty, Kwiftee, SilentLoner, Ragnarok, Kayin, Ark, Evan, Koppis, Nolan, Silver, Yule, Tijit, Sarah, JCM/Lion, Amber, DraconicDescendant, Woeful, Neo, Salamander, nukeitfromorbit, Ae Zi, Last_Rites, platinum/spriter, Toon, guywithpasta, Myself

Going to check more for any others I missed. PM ME ALL REQUESTS BEGINNING MAY 25TH (so requests are closed for a little under 4 hours, not that it makes a difference).
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on May 25, 2010, 02:08:59 am
Someone request a special based Dragon Dance. I want one for mah team. :p

In all seriousness, this looks pretty good so far. Good to see you're making progress. Did Venser finish it yet?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: GuyWithPasta on May 25, 2010, 11:59:27 am
Couple of things:
1.) Trainer Tips!  Do something with those.
2.) The guy who won't let you leave without defeating Brock.  Don't forget him.
3.) Have Mewtwo look like MissingNo.
4.) The people "lost" inside Sabrina's gym. Them too.

I've no prefrence over my Pokemon, 'cept a Seel/Dewgong if possible.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on May 25, 2010, 03:35:31 pm
Actually, it makes a lot of sense to set these limitations. I'll put them in the OP for now, although we really should have had them a long time ago. Oh, well. Better late than never.

Regardless, there is a particular trainer in the Rocket Hideout giving me difficulties. I've literally spent probably over an hour just trying to figure out how to get the damn thing to stop bugging up. It's getting to the point where I might just delete him.

Sighting the trainer at all for some reason causes the game to freeze or causes you to assume control of the rocket trainer, whose sprite changes to random shit and can't move very far. I've crossreferenced the trainer with the scripts in other unaltered version of the game I have, and nothing seems amiss, so I assume something I previously altered must be affecting it. If I can't figure it out shortly, I'll see how deleting the trainer goes.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on May 25, 2010, 03:52:27 pm
That's weird. A random trainer crashes the game?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on May 25, 2010, 03:54:09 pm
Freezing is far less common than assuming control of the trainer and having them not be able to go very far. Freezing I've only seen a couple times; usually as soon as I sight them directly I start walking around as a trainer.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on May 25, 2010, 06:57:54 pm
Were you able to fix it? How is my first encounter?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on May 26, 2010, 05:19:52 pm
I was doing a Chemistry project in the classes I would normally have been playing IWBTP in. I'll try and get some work in on it tonight; I think I may have found the source of the problem, but I could be wrong. I think one of the scripts (the one that opens the exiting door when you leave the Rocket Hideout) expects him to be on one place, but since I moved him the script can't access him. I'll have to try moving him back to where he was originally.

EDIT: Problem solved. I don't know what the issue was, but moving him back to his original position seems to have fixed everything.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on May 27, 2010, 10:44:31 pm
You mentioned that messing with the hideout caused some script errors. Were you able to overcome these and change the layout, or is it as it was in the game?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Nicholas1024 on May 28, 2010, 01:38:15 pm
Could I be a random trainer?

Preferred pokemon: (either of the following pairs)
Blastoise/preevolved form (with rain dance) + Pikachu (with thunder)
Charizard/preevoled form (with sunny day) + grass type(with solar beam)
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on May 28, 2010, 04:37:56 pm
There are some minor edits to the layout of the Rocket Hideout, but for the most part scripting errors prevented me from making large changes.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Ae Zi on May 28, 2010, 10:42:03 pm
Random trainer:
1. Kabutops
2. Gengar
3. Aggron
4. Togekiss

This acceptable?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on May 28, 2010, 11:36:30 pm
Random trainer:
1. Kabutops
2. Gengar
3. Aggron
4. Togekiss

This acceptable?

First of all, Togekiss is a Gen IV, 2nd, you're already in and sorry for not mentioning this, but also set as I've already chosen your location, there's no real changing it now. Last:
PM ME ALL REQUESTS

ANY QUESTIONS?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Dagnarok on May 29, 2010, 08:33:01 pm
What's a PM? ;p

Also, I'm still thinking of leaving my team without items, so it'd be like a Gen 1 fight. XD
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Stinkycheeseone890 on June 01, 2010, 08:04:13 pm
What's a PM? ;p

 PM =  Personal Message.  :P
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on June 01, 2010, 09:40:03 pm
What's a PM? ;p

 PM =  Personal Message.  :P
Rag is a mod with over 93000 posts. I think he knows what a PM is.

Regardless, I defeated Evan. Besides him saying in his dialog that he was Giovanni (KUDO! D:<), the fight was extremely easy. Some of the rocket grunts were easier. Although, admittedly, since I have a 40 Nidorino and a 40 Charizard, I don't exactly expect the fights to be very hard...even so. It was very, very easy.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on June 01, 2010, 09:46:07 pm
Oh yeah, forgot to mentioned I didn't do much text past the gym buildings (and a bit extra in the beginning, throwing in random tidbits as I go)

I'll take care of it when you're done with the ROM. (As well as levels, I'm going to have to bump some shit up)

You have to admit that at least the pokemon choice surprised you amirite?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on June 01, 2010, 09:49:58 pm
It was quite a surprise. But surprise didn't make it hard.

The rocket grunt with the Arbok was a hell of a lot harder than Evan was, since the Arbok had Glare.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on June 01, 2010, 11:33:51 pm
I thought the difficulty of the hideout would be much easier. Feel free to rebalance as you see fit. I promise you, I'll show you how much I can be a dick in the later fights :p
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: GuyWithPasta on June 01, 2010, 11:35:20 pm
I'm gonna work on DD's in-battle sprite, if there's still time.  Unless, of course, you have something better in mind...
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: DraconicDescendant on June 01, 2010, 11:35:52 pm
I really appreciate you doing this for me.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: GuyWithPasta on June 01, 2010, 11:41:21 pm
It's gonna be hard.  I mean, for mine I just stuck the awesome smiley on Giovani's face and then changed small details.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: DraconicDescendant on June 01, 2010, 11:51:54 pm
Well, what are you doing for mine?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: GuyWithPasta on June 02, 2010, 12:14:25 am
This.

I, again, took an existing sprite and edited it.  I can remove the cape, or change it's color.  Also, any other alterations you want, just tell me.

edit:  That took 20 minutes, 10 to find the damn sprite.  So yes, even I think its kinda shitty.

edit2: Second has cape much like King Dedede's

Edit Three: Badasser coat, removed crotch arm, more color to eye.

Oh, and the forth pic is what I started with.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: DraconicDescendant on June 02, 2010, 07:23:14 am
Very nice, but I'd prefer myself to have black hair, if possible. Thanks for doing this.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: GuyWithPasta on June 02, 2010, 10:30:19 am
Alright, here you go.  Added a bit more to the cape to give it volume.  Next step is to give him this collar.
: show
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_FFr_CL_FHPk/SbFjISgAtgI/AAAAAAAAJWg/hjbhbb_tG0Y/s400/Lelouch1.jpg)


Also, if anybody wants me to make one for you, just tell me.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on June 02, 2010, 04:07:23 pm
I thought the difficulty of the hideout would be much easier. Feel free to rebalance as you see fit. I promise you, I'll show you how much I can be a dick in the later fights :p
I seriously doubt it. Again, I have two level 40+ pokemon and I've just walked out of Pokemon Tower. At that point, Snorlax (level 30) is supposed to be a challenge, not a pushover.

The early game needs some toning down. The leveling curve is broken so badly that the game is a cakewalk. What needs to happen, I think, is that exp gained from fighting evolved pokemon that Kudo used on the early Rocket grunts needs to be dropped severely. That's where I started to get way higher. That, and lowering the levels of the first gym so that grinding won't be necessary, hopefully.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on June 02, 2010, 04:38:59 pm
Errr, yeah. My Lapras needs to be a higher level then you, so.....
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on June 02, 2010, 07:44:19 pm
I thought the difficulty of the hideout would be much easier. Feel free to rebalance as you see fit. I promise you, I'll show you how much I can be a dick in the later fights :p
I seriously doubt it. Again, I have two level 40+ pokemon and I've just walked out of Pokemon Tower. At that point, Snorlax (level 30) is supposed to be a challenge, not a pushover.

The early game needs some toning down. The leveling curve is broken so badly that the game is a cakewalk. What needs to happen, I think, is that exp gained from fighting evolved pokemon that Kudo used on the early Rocket grunts needs to be dropped severely. That's where I started to get way higher. That, and lowering the levels of the first gym so that grinding won't be necessary, hopefully.

Actually, I believe your first "screw you" moment will be with Draco

...and I'll definitely drop the EXP rate.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: GuyWithPasta on June 02, 2010, 08:29:06 pm
OK, DD's is finished, unless he has other qualms with it.  Added velvet insides with a pattern (optional, tell me if you don't want it or want it changed, either the primary or secondary color, the pattern, or both) and added the badass collar.

CAN'T YOU ALL SEE HOW THIS CONSUMES ME! AAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

edit: It looks better on a lighter background, trust me.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: DraconicDescendant on June 02, 2010, 08:30:32 pm
FUCKING AWESOME.

I prefer the pattern version, thank you. This is some fucking awesome work right here.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: GuyWithPasta on June 02, 2010, 08:32:46 pm
You truely don't understand the power of your "thank-you"s.  I am honored to recieve it.

*sniff* Y-your welcome.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Fidel CashFlow on June 02, 2010, 08:37:30 pm
I've just been touching my sprite up... but there's one thing that I can't do; Add another person holding on to my arms... I wanted to make it super bad ass. But I suck at spriting. >_> Anyone willing to take up the challenge? :P
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: GuyWithPasta on June 02, 2010, 09:09:01 pm
I could give it a shot...  Don't expect too good results, though.  I'm also kinda bad with hummans.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Ae Zi on June 02, 2010, 09:19:44 pm
Also, if anybody wants me to make one for you, just tell me.

Can I have one after Nolan's?  :)

Or do random trainers not get special sprites?  :(
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on June 02, 2010, 09:23:11 pm
If you want to make one/have someone make one for you, custom sprites are fine. Kudo's probably swamped with finding custom sprites already, so if you can provide them, fine, but short of that I don't think so.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Ae Zi on June 02, 2010, 09:29:27 pm
Then I'll take him up on his sprite offer when he gets done with Nolan's/if he gets to it.

There are ace trainers in firered right?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: GuyWithPasta on June 02, 2010, 09:36:22 pm
HERE YOU GO!




...no but seriously, you need to tell me what you want.

edit: Who ever gives the idea first will get to hire me.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Ae Zi on June 02, 2010, 09:38:58 pm
Are there Ace trainers in firered? If so, post a pic of one so I can decide what changes to make to it.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: GuyWithPasta on June 02, 2010, 09:40:37 pm
Take your pick. (http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/frlgemtrsprites.html)
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Ae Zi on June 02, 2010, 09:43:36 pm
Alright then.

...damn... how do I post pictures >.>

I want the ninth one going horizontaly, how would it look if you:

-changed hair to black

-changed the red in his outfit to black

-changed the yellow strips in his outfit to red
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Fidel CashFlow on June 02, 2010, 09:51:50 pm
I could give it a shot...  Don't expect too good results, though.  I'm also kinda bad with hummans.
Schveet.
I'll PM you the stuff.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: GuyWithPasta on June 02, 2010, 10:38:47 pm
Alright then.
...damn... how do I post pictures >.>
I want the ninth one going horizontaly, how would it look if you:
-changed hair to black
-changed the red in his outfit to black
-changed the yellow strips in his outfit to red
DONE!  Take your pick.  (Also, as a bonus, your charactor's giving the bird!)
1 & 2 have the grayer outfits
1 & 3 have pinker stripes.

edit: finger looks better against lighter backgrounds
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Ae Zi on June 02, 2010, 10:50:28 pm
Lol bird...

Im debating on numbers 2 and 4...

Can you make the red darker in both of them, and make the black in number 4 darker?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: DraconicDescendant on June 02, 2010, 11:02:16 pm
I just had the worst flashback to Pokemon Gold and Silver.

Every time just before I switch off the game, somebody calls. I would answer it, but it always happens the millisecond before I flip the switch. Then the game turns off, the call forever lost.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Ae Zi on June 02, 2010, 11:06:09 pm
I hate that so much!
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: GuyWithPasta on June 03, 2010, 12:04:26 am
Did you mean 2 & 3?  1 & 4 are the pinker ones while 2 & 3 have the reds.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Ae Zi on June 03, 2010, 12:24:53 am
Yes, though you said 1+3 were pinker at first >.>
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on June 03, 2010, 12:30:36 am
Keep in mind the color palette of 24 max colors for the GBA, for convenience I may actually end up changing Ae Zi's to Rocket colors, keeping it as similar to the original as possible of course, and Dracos...I don't care, I'll MAKE a way to give it it's own palette, that shit is NOT going to waste. (If this method seems to easier, all the custom sprites shall have custom palettes)

No promises, but I know it can be done.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on June 04, 2010, 06:35:49 pm
Working through the game. I got some more stuff done today, grabbing Fly, catching a [censored for not having been revealed yet], fixing a couple of bugs, it went fairly well. I should be able to knock out the next two gyms (Saffron and Fuschia) in quick succession, then grab the HMs from the Safari Zone to move on.

The Safari Zone should be interesting...
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on June 04, 2010, 10:12:09 pm
Did you fight me for the second time? I was easy, rite? D:
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on June 04, 2010, 10:18:22 pm
Haven't gotten quite that far yet. But I'm sure it will be. With my Charizard, Nidorino, and [censored], I can pretty much steamroll my way through the game.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on June 04, 2010, 10:19:45 pm
Likely. Broken XP curve is broken. >.>

Also, moon stone that bitch.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on June 04, 2010, 10:26:33 pm
Yeah, I probably will, I was just too lazy to check and make sure I didn't want it to learn any moves it wouldn't by evolving. I can see now that I need to Moon Stone it before it levels up, as it learns Megahorn if it's Nidoking, but some shitty move if it's Nidorino.

Not that I trust Kudo not to have changed that. XD
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on June 04, 2010, 10:35:25 pm
Megahorn is badass.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: ybbald on June 08, 2010, 10:27:44 am
holy shit
is there one for me?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: GuyWithPasta on June 09, 2010, 01:37:36 pm
Keep in mind the color palette of 24 max colors for the GBA, for convenience I may actually end up changing Ae Zi's to Rocket colors, keeping it as similar to the original as possible of course, and Dracos...I don't care, I'll MAKE a way to give it it's own palette, that shit is NOT going to waste. (If this method seems to easier, all the custom sprites shall have custom palettes)

No promises, but I know it can be done.

I don't really know how that works, but when I was making the sprite, Photoshop was preventing me from using any color I wanted, so the origional sprite must have had some sort of thingy that it'll only have certain colors.

If that's the case, use(?) the color sceme from the guy with the gay outfit

In other news, shinies are pretty badass, especially Charizard (http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/frlgpokemonpicsshiny.html)
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on June 09, 2010, 08:18:21 pm
Updates is a pretty cool guy, eh procrastinates and doesn't afraid of anything.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on June 09, 2010, 09:10:24 pm
Give me a break, I've been partying/having exams for the last week of school, that leaves no class time to play IWBTP.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on June 09, 2010, 10:20:02 pm
Breaks are for humans. You're a god, you know better then to indulge in such foolish things. :P
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: OLDGREG on June 10, 2010, 06:15:30 pm
God dammit a shinny hoppip looks so horrible D:
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on June 10, 2010, 07:46:38 pm
Maybe so, but as a consolation prize, OLDGREG, your cameo in the game is fairly prominent. You'll see...
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on June 10, 2010, 08:05:45 pm
God dammit a shinny hoppip looks so horrible D:

I forgot to mention, I can change the palettes for each pokemon's shiny forme
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on June 11, 2010, 10:17:36 am
So what's the word on the bonus boss cave? This was a floating maybe before, is it more feasible now?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on June 11, 2010, 01:30:19 pm
I can do it now. I think my editing skills are up for the challenge. As for some of the things we had planned...Kudo, correct me if I'm wrong, but you are capable of doing the trainer events we'd had in mind, correct?

After I'm done debugging the main game, Kudo will get the game back and change the sprites and shit. I think then would probably be the time to add the bonus cave, so that when I do another run through the game it's there for me to debug.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on June 11, 2010, 01:33:14 pm
I would like to begin basic team planning if possible. I'm assuming the levels will be around the 90+ range if it's a bonus boss?

Also, do you guys have a way to choose the trainer's AIs? So they don't do stupid shit like endlessly agility a poison type or something. I believe the E4 and Champion have different AIs that play slightly intelligently if memory serves.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on June 11, 2010, 01:52:21 pm
There are several levels of AI. If I'm not wrong, Kudo has already upped the AI on the gym leaders, as they've been pretty merciless to me...I think there are 5 levels, with the top one being pretty 'perfect' as far as pokemon AI goes.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on June 11, 2010, 02:37:23 pm
Is the "perfect" one the ones that the guys in Pokemon Coloseeum's battle mode use? The guys that know how to Baton Pass correctly, or how to protect+explode their pokemon?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on June 11, 2010, 03:20:56 pm
I seriously doubt it. It's not Pokemon Colosseum, after all, it's FireRed. The AI could be very similar, but I believe Colosseum isn't done in hexadecimal, so it would be impossible for them to be exactly the same.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on June 12, 2010, 02:57:54 am
There are several levels of AI. If I'm not wrong, Kudo has already upped the AI on the gym leaders, as they've been pretty merciless to me...I think there are 5 levels, with the top one being pretty 'perfect' as far as pokemon AI goes.

Yes I did change it...HEAVILY. It needed it, and if you recall is one of the WHOLE POINTS OF YOUR TESTING TO BEGIN WITH. *ahem* But it seems to be working just fine, thankfully.

And there are 256 levels (0-255) but I tended to stick to those divisible by 5. To give you an example, unedited, the Champion and E4 already have AI levels of 255.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on June 12, 2010, 03:13:14 am
I would like to begin basic team planning if possible. I'm assuming the levels will be around the 90+ range if it's a bonus boss?
Ahem...

If it's okay, I'll PM Kudo my draft. Are legendaries fair game or no?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on June 12, 2010, 03:30:37 am
I would like to begin basic team planning if possible. I'm assuming the levels will be around the 90+ range if it's a bonus boss?
Ahem...

If it's okay, I'll PM Kudo my draft. Are legendaries fair game or no?

For bonus teams, they're fair game. On the other hand, I won't be implementing any of them until post-main game work is done (or, when we can release a playable and complete version)
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on June 12, 2010, 03:58:55 am
Okay. Is there a limit to how many we can pack, or just go wild with a 6 Uber team? (I likely won't do that as they're boring to fight but...)
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on June 13, 2010, 11:54:49 am
Also, keep in mind that most legendaries won't be the same anyway. Whether we'll change stats much isn't something Kudo and I have decided, but at the very least expect a few big changes besides sprite and name.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on June 13, 2010, 04:11:16 pm
Also, keep in mind that most legendaries won't be the same anyway. Whether we'll change stats much isn't something Kudo and I have decided, but at the very least expect a few big changes besides sprite and name.

What? I was already changing stats, type, ability, moves, and even EV yield on them...while trying not to make them too broken.

Long story short, they will be completely different, or at least the ones I do change.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on June 13, 2010, 05:25:19 pm
I dun has remember that!

But sounds good to me.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on June 14, 2010, 12:46:27 am
Team sent in for discussion and nerfing. :P
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: GuyWithPasta on June 19, 2010, 10:35:13 am
Could you give us part of the ROM to tease us, like delete everything past Brock's gym (please make a back-up) and give it to us.  PLEASE! I'M BEGGING YOU!
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on June 19, 2010, 04:13:28 pm
There's a lot of stuff missing, like TEXT and SPRITES. Even if I were to spend the time doing such a thing (which I don't even think is possible without opening the file as hex code and deleting extremely selective things that would take me ages to figure out), it would be very unexciting.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on June 19, 2010, 07:55:31 pm
So how far are you Venser? Are you at the Robot Unicorn part yet?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Ae Zi on June 22, 2010, 12:09:00 am
... a robot unicorn...?

Dang, this game sounds exciting!
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on June 26, 2010, 01:11:19 pm
Being on a trip is no excuse not to work on this! :P
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Nicholas1024 on June 29, 2010, 09:06:39 am
Just want to make sure, but this game will be PG-13, right?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on June 29, 2010, 12:04:07 pm
Well, erm...I'm not exactly sure this will be going to ESRB, but I would not suggest playing it if you have issues with PG13 things. Although for the most part it would be safe for the public to view (at least at this point in development, there are only a couple things I wouldn't want to show small children).
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on June 29, 2010, 12:12:44 pm
Did you use the child porn I worked so hard filming?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Dagnarok on June 29, 2010, 12:31:11 pm
Stop Lion, Evan; only Draco does CP. XP
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on June 30, 2010, 03:45:04 pm
Sent an update to Kudo regarding the bonus boss team. It would be more or less impossible for a causal player to beat it before; now it's just ball-bustingly difficult.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on June 30, 2010, 10:01:31 pm
I'm working through the game. Some serious bugs have slowed me down quite a bit, but I am still progressing.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on July 01, 2010, 03:13:22 pm
How serious are these bugs? Can you describe non-spoiler ones? How far are you?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on July 01, 2010, 03:23:56 pm
I've encountered a few crash-on-sight bugs like I talked about in Rocket Hideout. I'm currently working using three different saves to debug Safari Zone.

They're fairly seriously, but I don't think it'll take me too long to fix the Safari Zone.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on July 01, 2010, 04:19:13 pm
Good to hear. Also, are you taking the 12346578 gym route or the 12345768 route in terms of gameplay and balance?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on July 01, 2010, 04:23:18 pm
Well, I haven't done either one yet. I may go ahead and do Fuschia to see if jumping the curve like that makes the game any harder, since I doubt that Saffron will hold anything that's going to be difficult for my overleveled team.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on July 01, 2010, 04:26:24 pm
Are you running around with level 60s by now? :P
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on July 01, 2010, 04:37:37 pm
Not exactly, but it's not what I'd call an exactly fair fight when you're a good 10 levels above the opponent and a hell of a lot smarter.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on July 01, 2010, 04:47:16 pm
Agreed. So what level do you guys expect the E4 to be at once everything is said and done. (What I'm really asking is how much grinding until the extra bosses if they're implemented?)
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on July 01, 2010, 04:51:35 pm
I'm unsure. It depends on what changes we'll be doing...at this point, honestly, I don't have a damn clue. My levels are overinflated from what future tests will be at the equivalent distance through the game, so I suspect that they'll be something a bit higher but not too much higher than they are now. I could be way off on that estimation, though.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on July 01, 2010, 05:01:09 pm
I think that should be fine. Overleveled bonus bosses is part of the challenge. After all, Red (HG/SS and GSC) was piss easy if you are equally leveled with him. Fighing him with high 50s is no simple task. (That, and his team is Tyranitar weak up the ass, but that's besides the point)
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on July 01, 2010, 07:53:17 pm
I think that should be fine. Overleveled bonus bosses is part of the challenge. After all, Red (HG/SS and GSC) was piss easy if you are equally leveled with him. Fighing him with high 50s is no simple task. (That, and his team is Tyranitar weak up the ass, but that's besides the point)

The level jump was made so you DON'T face him equally leveled. Try straight up 50s, (not 58, not 53, but 50 for everything)...without T-Tar to kick out the hail.

I'm unsure. It depends on what changes we'll be doing...at this point, honestly, I don't have a damn clue. My levels are overinflated from what future tests will be at the equivalent distance through the game, so I suspect that they'll be something a bit higher but not too much higher than they are now. I could be way off on that estimation, though.
Stop grinding/over-preparing. Wasn't this supposed to be a standard difficulty test (fixing errors along the way), not an over-grind-to-complete-it "test"?

Agreed. So what level do you guys expect the E4 to be at once everything is said and done. (What I'm really asking is how much grinding until the extra bosses if they're implemented?)

Don't forget there is still the regular Elite 4 rematchs I'm implementing. They WON'T be super-bosses and will have upgrades suitable for training.

At the same time, I expect you should be able to take out some of these super bosses at level 80, of course if you're making your team equal leveled to your opponents up to the rematch E4...you'll only need to go up maybe 3 levels. More if you SUCK aren't comfortable with the level difference.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on July 01, 2010, 08:24:50 pm
Kudo, I've been saying my team is overleveled and I haven't been grinding since before the first gym (the only place it was necessary). Since then, the inflated exp rates from the changes you made to the rocket trainers and such have kept me far above where I should be ever since.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on July 01, 2010, 08:49:33 pm
I think that should be fine. Overleveled bonus bosses is part of the challenge. After all, Red (HG/SS and GSC) was piss easy if you are equally leveled with him. Fighing him with high 50s is no simple task. (That, and his team is Tyranitar weak up the ass, but that's besides the point)

The level jump was made so you DON'T face him equally leveled. Try straight up 50s, (not 58, not 53, but 50 for everything)...without T-Tar to kick out the hail.

I'm unsure. It depends on what changes we'll be doing...at this point, honestly, I don't have a damn clue. My levels are overinflated from what future tests will be at the equivalent distance through the game, so I suspect that they'll be something a bit higher but not too much higher than they are now. I could be way off on that estimation, though.
Stop grinding/over-preparing. Wasn't this supposed to be a standard difficulty test (fixing errors along the way), not an over-grind-to-complete-it "test"?

Agreed. So what level do you guys expect the E4 to be at once everything is said and done. (What I'm really asking is how much grinding until the extra bosses if they're implemented?)

Don't forget there is still the regular Elite 4 rematchs I'm implementing. They WON'T be super-bosses and will have upgrades suitable for training.

At the same time, I expect you should be able to take out some of these super bosses at level 80, of course if you're making your team equal leveled to your opponents up to the rematch E4...you'll only need to go up maybe 3 levels. More if you SUCK aren't comfortable with the level difference.
Red is tough at 50, but you should have a team at that level by the time the E4 are done. Without grinding, my team usuallly comes out around 55-60 when it's time to fight him.

On topic, do all the gyms have 6 pokes?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on July 02, 2010, 12:25:54 am
I think that should be fine. Overleveled bonus bosses is part of the challenge. After all, Red (HG/SS and GSC) was piss easy if you are equally leveled with him. Fighing him with high 50s is no simple task. (That, and his team is Tyranitar weak up the ass, but that's besides the point)

The level jump was made so you DON'T face him equally leveled. Try straight up 50s, (not 58, not 53, but 50 for everything)...without T-Tar to kick out the hail.

I'm unsure. It depends on what changes we'll be doing...at this point, honestly, I don't have a damn clue. My levels are overinflated from what future tests will be at the equivalent distance through the game, so I suspect that they'll be something a bit higher but not too much higher than they are now. I could be way off on that estimation, though.
Stop grinding/over-preparing. Wasn't this supposed to be a standard difficulty test (fixing errors along the way), not an over-grind-to-complete-it "test"?

Agreed. So what level do you guys expect the E4 to be at once everything is said and done. (What I'm really asking is how much grinding until the extra bosses if they're implemented?)

Don't forget there is still the regular Elite 4 rematchs I'm implementing. They WON'T be super-bosses and will have upgrades suitable for training.

At the same time, I expect you should be able to take out some of these super bosses at level 80, of course if you're making your team equal leveled to your opponents up to the rematch E4...you'll only need to go up maybe 3 levels. More if you SUCK aren't comfortable with the level difference.
Red is tough at 50, but you should have a team at that level by the time the E4 are done. Without grinding, my team usuallly comes out around 55-60 when it's time to fight him.

On topic, do all the gyms have 6 pokes?
By the time the E4 is done?! I have maybe a few high 30s after the E4, and more low 30s. My team came out to be high 40s by the time to face red (level 44 Steelix was getting OHKO'd by Pikachu so I had to grind a little)

And no, the first few naturally do not, I can assure you that any leader past Celadon has 6 however. If not, I'll make it so.

AND DAMN EXP CURVE. I'm dropping the EXP altogether on legendaries then. That may fix a lot, although may promote rage during said areas. Most other things I left generally unchanged as far as EXP so there must be some other source of custom pokemon I missed balancing.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on July 02, 2010, 11:17:26 am
I hadn't accounted for the E4 matches being even harder when designing my team. Is the nerfed version (PMs) going too far?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on July 02, 2010, 11:20:47 am
We'll just fix it if it isn't close enough, don't worry about it.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on July 02, 2010, 11:30:02 am
Just PM me the changes and it's all good.

Round 2 is a total tankwar. :P
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on July 03, 2010, 06:17:30 pm
UPDATE:

I fixed all the bugs in the Safari Zone, only to discover...my new layout made it literally impossible to get to the end in 500 steps! So I'll be redesigning for a little bit to see if I can cut it down quite a bit. Perhaps some hidden shortcuts.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Ellipsis on July 03, 2010, 06:52:44 pm
So I missed this thread totally and never got round to reading it since it started, I still deserve to make an appearance saying "..." right? Although I'm too later can you add a non battle npc that says "..." and is called Ellipsis?

Alternatively an attack called Ellipsis with base damage of 0?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on July 03, 2010, 07:42:09 pm
UPDATE:

I fixed all the bugs in the Safari Zone, only to discover...my new layout made it literally impossible to get to the end in 500 steps! So I'll be redesigning for a little bit to see if I can cut it down quite a bit. Perhaps some hidden shortcuts.
Wouldn't it be easier to edit the number of steps you can take?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on July 03, 2010, 08:03:52 pm
No, because that would produce a host of other undesirable effects that I would have to mitigate. I want to keep it 500 steps.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on July 04, 2010, 12:00:08 am
So I missed this thread totally and never got round to reading it since it started, I still deserve to make an appearance saying "..." right? Although I'm too later can you add a non battle npc that says "..." and is called Ellipsis?

Alternatively an attack called Ellipsis with base damage of 0?

Believe it or not, I've had you on the list of people to place at the start, I haven't found a place yet though...
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: ·Arturo· on July 05, 2010, 01:54:53 pm
Fix MissingNO to be what it was supposed to be.  I don't remember if this was ever disproven or not, but MissingNO's slot was supposed to be kangaskhan's baby.  But since both were made one pokemon (The mother) it was never fully added, thus, a ghost pokemon slot was created.  So why not make a Kangaskhan baby?  I think it would look something like liquid
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on July 05, 2010, 10:18:30 pm
We could make that, but Missingno has nothing to do with a slot that was supposed to be Kangaskhan's baby. The slots had to go up to 255 due to programming in hexadecimal, which is why Missingno existed. It's merely a glitch that the programmers never looked at, since 1-151 are taken up by actual pokemon (it wouldn't make sense to have 152 be Kangaskhan's baby, and since there's no gap, that theory doesn't make any sense).

Ah, urban legends. Always good for a laugh.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on July 06, 2010, 03:36:37 pm
The basis behind that myth is because Missingno evolves into a Kangaskhan under certain conditions, but this was proven to be the result of trash bytes being weird. There's no real significance to the pokemon that he "evolves" into.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on July 12, 2010, 01:58:17 am
Fuck PMs, update on the run through? With overleveled shit you should be able to have more time to work on glitches between blasting through the game.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on July 12, 2010, 02:04:52 am
I've been working my ass off...lifeguarding.

But yeah. I finished the damned safari zone, bugs and all. Then I went and beat the shit out of the 7th gym. I haven't touched it since. I'll do some work on it tomorrow before I go to work, I swear. In fact, what the hell. I'll set a deadline for myself again (hey, it worked last time). I'll be at the elite four by the end of the week.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Pokota on July 14, 2010, 09:29:03 am
The noom's post disappeared, so I was compelled to edit this.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: pserafi on July 14, 2010, 10:02:10 am
*evil shit i dont want to repeat*
there isnt one -.-
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on July 14, 2010, 01:03:55 pm
That post is almost warning worthy.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Dagnarok on July 14, 2010, 01:30:18 pm
No.  It's warning worthy.  Deleted as well.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on July 14, 2010, 01:43:41 pm
SCREW YOU BUGS I SWEAR

The falling script on the Biker Path has been messed up. I'm not going to spend too much time trying to fix it before I just revert it to its original state and continue on.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on July 14, 2010, 01:45:04 pm
That's fine, I always take the dock route anyway :P.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on July 14, 2010, 01:48:31 pm
I almost always do it that way too, but I figured I'd check the Biker's Path just in case something was messed up. I originally went down the dock path.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: i wanna be the king on July 19, 2010, 08:32:32 am
Where is the download link???? :kid:
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Dagnarok on July 19, 2010, 12:43:06 pm
there isnt one -.-

They're fixing bugs and editting sprites right now (among other things).  It'll be awhile.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on July 19, 2010, 06:19:00 pm
On a side note, I did keep my promise in the literal sense. That is, since I couldn't get through victory road in time, I edited in a warp to the Elite Four! So I've been there! Woohoo!

But seriously, I'm in Victory Road, working out some bugs with trainers.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: i wanna be the king on July 20, 2010, 03:51:16 am
... where is it now?!?!?! the link...?¿
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: SilentLoner on July 20, 2010, 07:14:57 am
As already mentioned, the game is still being worked on. There is no download link yet.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: i wanna be the king on July 20, 2010, 01:58:18 pm
oky thanks =)
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: GuyWithPasta on August 04, 2010, 11:17:55 pm
STICKY BUMP?

I kinda wanna make one of those teaser videos for this.  Just like Tijit did with the Fangame.

Also, btw, fixed up the hair of Draco's sprite.

Also also, could it be possible if you could send me a small png file with only the colors I can pick from for the sprites?  That way I can fix up these sprite I palette-swap MAKE.  Either that or tell me how the limited color system works.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: DraconicDescendant on August 04, 2010, 11:30:22 pm
Once again, thank you very much.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Nickshrike on August 08, 2010, 03:54:39 pm
Are you still looking for people to select 4 pokemon for themselves to be somewhere
If so... wait i just read that the requests must be in for june the 9th @_@
Im sorry for being late
*gets depressed*
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on August 08, 2010, 11:20:16 pm
I'm going to laugh heartily when Pokemon Black/White gets released before this does.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on August 09, 2010, 01:59:13 am
I'm going to laugh heartily when Pokemon Black/White gets released before this does.
I never thought of that, but damn......

Also, would it be okay to name this IWBTP Forever?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: GuyWithPasta on August 09, 2010, 06:18:05 pm
Gonna start working on FINISH UP Despy's sprite, but in the mean time, does anybody want/need a sprite (that goes to creators for the pokemon, overworld sprites, et al. as well)?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on August 09, 2010, 08:23:01 pm
Hey, guess what guys? You can stop being pissed at me now, because I was on an 8 hour car ride to Boston and guess fucking what? I took my goddamned laptop, and just for you guys, I worked on IWBTP. I couldn't find/lost/aliens stole my IWBTP saves in victory road and the Elite Four, so I basically started over from after Pokemon Tower.

Here's the lowdown of what happened. The gym in Saffron was actually...difficult. Not overly so, but it took me a couple of tries! The gym in Fuschia wasn't difficult, but it sure as hell wasn't a cakewalk like all the previous gyms.

Cinnabar? That was the first gym I needed items for. Now, likely it was my choice of starter and my lack of an actual water pokemon besides a lvl25 Lapras for surf, since the owner of this gym choose to not really alter the theme of the gym too much - almost everything is fire-type on their team, thus making it so that Charizard was useless, particularly since one particular pokemon on their team was carrying a rock-type move...

The gym in Viridian? Would've been hell to the fucking no...until I found a way to completely break the foolishness of the first pokemon with my Charizard (Charizard being completely immune to all of its moves, so I just spammed Metal Claw until I got enough attack boosts to sweep the team).

I stopped after Viridian, but I'm definitely going to get through some more on the way back home in a few days.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on August 09, 2010, 08:32:16 pm
I see you liked my pokemon choice. :3

Anyway, thanks for the long awaited update.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on August 09, 2010, 09:24:19 pm
Maybe I should revise my post; seeing as I never actually fought the team and my Charizard outspeeded everything, it might not have been that bad. I dunno really, though, I oneshotted everything.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on August 09, 2010, 10:32:18 pm
On paper, it should have been a rough battle if the team has a slight level advantage (As was intended in the original games). Maybe it will be tougher with Kudo's modified XP curve.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: GuyWithPasta on August 09, 2010, 11:14:51 pm
Nobody else wants awesome sprite?  I've already made two out of two people jizz themselves after seeing my work.

That reminds me, I need to remake my sprite.

Lastly, I think Repels should be named "X's Piss", X changing to "Ratatta" for the regular, "Graveler" for the Super, etc.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on August 10, 2010, 08:23:17 am
Slashing the exp from all the stuff Kudo put in should fix the curve, I think, if we adjust the gym leaders properly to fit.

I'd have to guess that Cinnabar was more likely to be far harder, not because the leader there was trying to be an asshole to the player, but because of the pokemon he selected...and to think that one of them didn't even have alterations (besides name) done to it. Would've been much harder if it had been changed, no matter what starter.

Also, Kudo, I'd suggest no legendaries for Rocket grunts, that was just weird. And you typo'd Evan20k in his speech, he said that he was Evan20000.

Also also, GWP, if you want to totally make me a sprite then I can has trainer in bonus cave without bothering Kudo for a sprite or having a lame sprite :D
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on August 10, 2010, 03:09:14 pm
My team fucks over the water starter and grass starter pretty bad if you play them exclusively. As for Charizard, more power too you, but I'm surprised my 5th (I think it was 5th, I forgot the order) didn't outspeed and OHKO you.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: GuyWithPasta on August 10, 2010, 04:42:01 pm
Also also, GWP, if you want to totally make me a sprite then I can has trainer in bonus cave without bothering Kudo for a sprite or having a lame sprite :D

Sure, just pick one (http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/frlgemtrsprites.html) and PM me any modifications you want.  For picking, remember that it's for 1. Color restrictions and 2. my base model.  If you want me to just change the colors of a sprite, also pick out the sprite with the color sceme you want.  (hope you made sence outta that.)
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on August 10, 2010, 05:48:39 pm
Update: In Victory Road. In honor of myself, I nabbed a Water Stone and evolved my Mutavault into a Venser. I then trained my new Venser in Cycling Road and Power Plant, catching what was once Zapdos there...with my new and improved team, I will hopefully be prepared to defeat the Elite Four once I get the Victory Road levels.

And don't worry, I haven't taken my eight-hour trip home yet. I'm sure I'll get plenty of playing in during that time.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: dcx666 on August 10, 2010, 07:15:13 pm

Any and all requests for being in IWBTP are due no later than JUNE 9TH Midnight PST (so that'd be June 10th 1:00 AM in MST, 3:00AM in CST, and 4:00AM EST)

Fuck... clenched fists
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on August 10, 2010, 07:31:09 pm
Considering that Kudo probably had planned to have IWBTP tested and handed to him by then, it's probably not too much trouble to PM him now and see if he'll accept it. That said, at the pace I'm going, I'll have it done in a couple of days, so...better hurry up and check.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on August 10, 2010, 11:29:50 pm
Are the bonus bosses in the version you're currently playing, or are they still in development?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on August 11, 2010, 04:37:21 pm
Are you talking about the bosses as in altered legendaries, or bosses as in the bonus cave?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on August 11, 2010, 04:48:31 pm
Bonus cave. Are the legendaries going to be boss-difficulty? O_O
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on August 11, 2010, 05:16:46 pm
You'll see...the bonus cave is, sadly, not yet in. I believe that (assuming that Kudo isn't completely disgusted with me for having taken this long) we'll be working the bonus cave in after Kudo is done his text/sprite changes and I can do a second test.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on August 11, 2010, 05:22:31 pm
Good to hear. Would you estimate completion by Christmas?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Ae Zi on August 11, 2010, 05:25:57 pm
Christmas....hmmph.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on August 11, 2010, 05:26:49 pm
Depends on a lot of things. Assuming that I don't go completely lazy on this project (and neither does Kudo), I could see a release by Christmas. If we both did our work at a decent pace we could probably be done in a month or two, but the way things have gone so far that's definitely not going to happen.

If we don't have it out by Christmas, feel free to throw things at Kudo and I over the interwebz. Mostly me, since the largest part of the delay is my fault.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: GuyWithPasta on August 11, 2010, 08:16:40 pm
Here, I made this to provoke you to work harder.

(And by made, I mean grabbed from online and then cleaned up...)
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: platinum on August 11, 2010, 08:58:37 pm
guywithpasta: think you could make me a sprite by any chance? i was told i was in this, but i don't have a clue where xP
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on August 11, 2010, 11:58:04 pm
I decided to make Sylph Co. even more confusing by fucking with the portals and shit. Now it makes even less sense. Hopefully I didn't bug anything up by changing it; probably after I get through Victory Road I'll take a trip through Sylph Co. on one of my older saves (from just before I went in there) and make sure nothing is wrong.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on August 12, 2010, 12:43:40 pm
Sorry for the absence, I'm back from my 10-day trip so I might as well clear up some things now.

You'll see...the bonus cave is, sadly, not yet in. I believe that (assuming that Kudo isn't completely disgusted with me for having taken this long) we'll be working the bonus cave in after Kudo is done his text/sprite changes and I can do a second test.
Actually it was more so after we finish up the feel of the game, as in have an IWBTP that can run from start to the E4.

Another thing...from Touhoumon experience, make an extra save and check to see if the National Dex fucks up the E4 (skips Round 1 to be precise, you'll know if Lorelei is absent).

Now to respond to the PMs...
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: GuyWithPasta on August 12, 2010, 01:15:08 pm
guywithpasta: think you could make me a sprite by any chance? i was told i was in this, but i don't have a clue where xP

Sure, just pick one (http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/frlgemtrsprites.html) and PM me any modifications you want.  For picking, remember that it's for 1. Color restrictions and 2. my base model.  If you want me to just change the colors of a sprite, also pick out the sprite with the color sceme you want.  (hope you made sence outta that.)
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on August 12, 2010, 01:51:20 pm
No bugs there, Kudo. I had a national dex pokemon in party and fought Rag.

So yeah, I'm at the elite...five now. First fight handed my ass to me; nothing except my Charizard held its own for long. I managed to win, but (without items) I only had my glorious Charizard remaining, who quickly got raped by SL's first pokemon. I'm going to fix a few things in Victory Road and then see where I can level my Venser a bit (all of my team besides Venser is weak to ice, most are weak to water, and rock rapes charizard).

I'll be home way later tonight, and I'll see what I can do with those tools you sent me, Kudo.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on August 12, 2010, 02:03:04 pm
Sounds like the E4 needs little tweaking so far. Excellent®.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on August 12, 2010, 02:26:32 pm
Remind me of how we were planning to add Kwiftee to the E4 to make the E5? I'll look into creating a room for him if you can create the trainer event.

EDIT: OH FUCK I GOT TO KAYIN

WILL POST STORY UPON ARRIVAL TO HOME
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: GuyWithPasta on August 14, 2010, 08:15:32 pm
WHAT HAPPEN?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on August 14, 2010, 08:46:40 pm
dsk's last pokemon basically just SUCKS DOWN FUCKTONS OF REVIVES AND SHIT.

Seriously, it's fucking ridiculous. But I've been working on getting my team higher; I'm in a run right now, on dsk's last pokemon with plenty of items left over for Kayin. I might just do it this time. I'll be on IRC if you want the play-by-play.

EDIT: I AM THE POKEMON

(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/9268/iwbtpwinrar.jpg)
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: GuyWithPasta on August 14, 2010, 10:16:12 pm
WOOHOO!  Alpha test complete!
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on August 14, 2010, 11:59:27 pm
Congrats! Now for Kudo's revisions and then the beta is ready for you and the outside testers?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on August 15, 2010, 11:28:55 am
Once Kudo works his magic, I think we might bounce it around for more testing and maybe add the bonus cave then. However, for those of you who weren't on IRC when I finished: there is currently (maybe) a fatal bug at the end of the game. See, since most of the time on emulators the actual 'save' feature doesn't work (it's worked for me before, but during IWBTP it did not so I used savestates), so when the game forces a save at the beginning of the credits and tries to reset at the end of the credits, it freezes and thus you cannot progress. The save doesn't apply, as the game will never reset again.

I'm hoping there's a fix for this somewhere; it should be a known issue amongst pokemon romhackers.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: platinum on August 15, 2010, 12:01:17 pm
i think all pokemon games have that problem on emulators. i tried running pokemon mystery dungeon red rescue team, and it would never save unless i used savestates.
yet when i'm playing other things, it'll work just fine.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on August 15, 2010, 12:30:52 pm
I've played pokemon ROMs and used the ingame save feature before; there is something that makes it functional or not. I'm hoping Kudo can shed some light on the situation; if not, I'll take a look around one of those pokemon romhacker forums or something.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on August 15, 2010, 10:07:26 pm
Fucks PMs, the save error is something I'm pretty sure is just the emulators with pokemon, I've heard of some that delete the game save after beating the game for some reason.

Now to make those changes with the EXP rate...

Kudo's Current To-Do list (post alpha test)
-Even more (finishing touches) to new attacks
-Fix the EXP rate (legendaries in the hands of random trainers are to be booted)
-Fix Trainer's pokemon, as to not give away the changed ones so early
-Fix Trainer's, the cameos and whatnot
-Sprites, a good lot of them. The hard part is implementing them, not making them.
-lrn2newtrainerscript, god if I could get this, we have our bonus bosses, and Kwiftee in the Elite Four Five.
-Misc. Edits, or shit I wouldn't just release to the public pre-release

May I remind you, the next tester (for the beta this time) won't be Venser nor myself...nor anyone in IWBTF (OR WILL IT?)
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on August 15, 2010, 10:17:52 pm
747th post, Kudo. Well done on learning how to fly.

EDIT: Also, Kudo, do you know how to fix that bug at the credits? If we can't fix it, then the bonus cave isn't feasible.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on August 15, 2010, 10:33:01 pm
747th post, Kudo. Well done on learning how to fly.

EDIT: Also, Kudo, do you know how to fix that bug at the credits? If we can't fix it, then the bonus cave isn't feasible.

Again, that's the emulator's deal, probably to not allow auto-resetting. Even if the game freezes, did you use the emulator's MANUAL reset to see if you could pick up the forced savefile?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on August 15, 2010, 10:37:49 pm
Yeah, manual resetting gave me a white screen. I'll take another look at it and see if I can get anything to work, but I'm pretty sure I tried everything I could think of.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on August 15, 2010, 10:49:58 pm
Yeah, manual resetting gave me a white screen. I'll take another look at it and see if I can get anything to work, but I'm pretty sure I tried everything I could think of.

Emulator save settings Automatic+Flash 128k?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: GuyWithPasta on August 16, 2010, 12:11:38 am
Yeah, manual resetting gave me a white screen. I'll take another look at it and see if I can get anything to work, but I'm pretty sure I tried everything I could think of.

Emulator save settings Automatic+Flash 128k?
Damn it!  I was just about to post that, too!  CURSE YOU, KUDO!
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on August 16, 2010, 12:25:20 am
It was on Flash 64k. Do I actually have to go beat the damned game again now just to test that, or is it not significant enough of a difference?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: GuyWithPasta on August 16, 2010, 12:33:06 am
It was on Flash 64k. Do I actually have to go beat the damned game again now just to test that, or is it not significant enough of a difference?
Uhhh... (http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_do_i_save_Pokemon_Leaf_green_on_the_VBA_Everytime_i_try_to_save_it_it_says_Save_ErrorPlease_exchange_the_Backup_Memory._What_is_this_and_how_can_i_counter_this_and_save_normally)
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on August 16, 2010, 12:52:25 am
Went though with a savestate made just before Kayin's fight. Same issue. It could be a result of using savestates at all, though...we'll have to see in the next test through. I won't use savestates at all (if I can avoid it).
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on September 01, 2010, 09:09:25 pm
Due to complications with school, a weekend choir retreat, and a recent breakup, IWBTP is canceled will have an update next week Saturday. Sorry to tease you all with this post.

: show
Did I honestly start a meme using this stupid shit known as spoiler syndrome?

: show
Yeah, I mean this.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on September 11, 2010, 03:40:32 pm
Oh, Kudo, that issue we talked about? Try messing with the save settings. Or check with someone on those romhacker forums; this can't be a rare issue unless it's something one of us fucked up incidentally.

...because fuck PMs.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on September 12, 2010, 12:14:45 am
SO I PROMISED AN UPDATE.

Currently working out an important issue (Venser, I currently have an alternative solution which I'll be able to use for testing, but it's not preferable). Also re-doing a LOT of the text with small references every here and there.

Actually, here's a teaser shot:
: show
(http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/8251/iwbtp91110.png)


Tomorrow I'll work out more of the stats and what each trainer has to fix up the stupid EXP curve as part of the to-do.

TL:DR (even though this is a short post): I bribe you all with a teaser shot with a game reference to avoid posting actual status.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on September 12, 2010, 01:05:06 am
Nice ToS reference.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Fidel CashFlow on September 12, 2010, 12:03:25 pm
I dun get the reference and it saddens me.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on September 12, 2010, 12:05:44 pm
Go play Tales of Symphonia, Nolan. It's well worth the (large) investment of time it takes to beat the game.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: OLDGREG on September 12, 2010, 07:25:18 pm
Oh god, that brings back memories, I've played through that game too many times to count.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: SGFAZ1 on September 15, 2010, 07:01:15 pm
When I read the title of this thread I immediately thought that it would involve every Pokemon in the game having Spike for an attack that would instantly kill you, and every berry in the game kills your Pokemon if they eat it.
I don't mean KO'd either. I mean they're dead. You could get a level 100 *insert awesome Pokemon here* and it would die permanently if an enemy used Spike. I am glad I was wrong. However I am still sad about things like this.

I decided to make Sylph Co. even more confusing by fucking with the portals and shit. Now it makes even less sense.

I could say many other things. But this is all I can say. Why?  :'(
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Ae Zi on September 15, 2010, 07:59:10 pm

I decided to make Sylph Co. even more confusing by fucking with the portals and shit. Now it makes even less sense.

I could say many other things. But this is all I can say. Why?  :'(

...Did you not notice that the title of this game has "I Wanna Be The" in front of it?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Johnstags on September 25, 2010, 12:52:23 pm
Interesting concept, and might be hard as hell. (Most likely it is)
Can't wait until this comes out, I know most of the things from reading the first 20 pages.
Good luck on the project.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on September 25, 2010, 01:03:50 pm
It won't be as hard as other fangames, not nearly so. I've been thinking recently we might release a 'The Pokemon' version, where everything is uberhard and the objective is to defeat 'The Pokemon', but if we ever get to that it'll be a while down the road. I'm not even sure how Kudo is progressing right now; we encountered a pretty fatal bug that has to do with the rom's save settings, and we need to fix it before we can do the second test run (even after Kudo makes all his changes).
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Johnstags on September 25, 2010, 01:08:20 pm
Alright.

Random Trainer:
Raichu, level 68, M
Thundershock
Thunderbolt
Attract
Tail Whip

Pidgeoto, level 65, F
Fly
Steel Wing
Roost
Wing Attack

Nidoking, Level 64, M
Ice Beam
Dig
Rest
Hidden Power

I'll take a SuperNerd as Trainer Class (Sprite)
Just call me John Stags
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Dagnarok on September 25, 2010, 05:04:51 pm
You do realize you could've just edited your first post instead of double-posing, right?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Johnstags on September 25, 2010, 05:14:51 pm
You do realize you could've just edited your first post instead of double-posing, right?
Sorry.
Fixed it up
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on September 25, 2010, 05:23:20 pm
Kudo wanted all submissions months ago. If he is willing to accept it, he might put that in, but I can make no promises.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: superstarjonesbros on October 13, 2010, 11:39:15 am
I wanna be Seximon

Lol and eww at the same time.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Ae Zi on October 27, 2010, 09:50:20 pm
Why isn't this sticky? I miss something?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: SilentLoner on October 27, 2010, 09:59:49 pm
I didn't really see any reason to have any games stickied anymore, especially one that's still not quite complete.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Ae Zi on October 27, 2010, 10:06:32 pm
I didn't really see any reason to have any games stickied anymore, especially one that's still not quite complete.

I see...
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on October 29, 2010, 12:26:51 am
I didn't really see any reason to have any games stickied anymore, especially one that's still not quite complete.

It's better off unstickied anyway.

...no I have no updates as of late so it looks like this project is officially on hiatus.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on October 29, 2010, 01:16:54 pm
COME ON KUDO

AT LEAST WHEN I DON'T DO ANYTHING PEOPLE HARASS ME AND THEN I DO IT
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: sans on October 29, 2010, 04:27:31 pm
COME ON KUDO

AT LEAST WHEN I DON'T DO ANYTHING PEOPLE HARASS ME AND THEN I DO IT

(http://static.tvfanatic.com/images/gallery/sexual-harassment-panda-picture.gif)

Did somebody say harassment?

On topic, I'm still looking forward to playing this game when it comes out. TBH I haven't played a single Pokemon game since the original Gold version came out, so this would bring me back to the good ol' days of the late 90's and early 2000's.

TL:DR; Harassing Kudo will make him work faster! Join in everybody!
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Ae Zi on October 29, 2010, 05:27:08 pm
COME ON KUDO

AT LEAST WHEN I DON'T DO ANYTHING PEOPLE HARASS ME AND THEN I DO IT

(http://static.tvfanatic.com/images/gallery/sexual-harassment-panda-picture.gif)

Did somebody say harassment?

On topic, I'm still looking forward to playing this game when it comes out. TBH I haven't played a single Pokemon game since the original Gold version came out, so this would bring me back to the good ol' days of the late 90's and early 2000's.

TL:DR; Harassing Kudo will make him work faster! Join in everybody!

COME ON KUDO
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on October 29, 2010, 06:04:48 pm
Kudo is such a cocktease. He has this amazing game just waiting to be finished and he procrastinates! D:

Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: SGFAZ1 on October 29, 2010, 06:11:26 pm
FINISH OR YOU WILL HAVE TO PLAY IWSYS FOR ETERNITY
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on October 29, 2010, 11:24:13 pm
JUST FOR THAT I'LL NEVER FINISH IT

Fine fine, I get the picture. (I'm basically dead on this forums excluding this thread's existence anyway).

HIATUS LIFTED. I'll seriously try to get some work done on it tomorrow. Looks like it'll be a good day for it.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Ae Zi on October 30, 2010, 01:20:08 am
Good work everybody :D!
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on October 30, 2010, 08:55:28 am
Remember kids, if you poke the developer long enough, you can get them to poop something out for you, ala Knights of the Old Republic 2!

We won. Thanks, Kudo. ^^
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on October 31, 2010, 02:29:54 pm
You think you won, but in reality you've lost.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: superstarjonesbros on October 31, 2010, 05:33:59 pm
What.
O noez, not Pokimanz!
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Fred-eye-inc on October 31, 2010, 06:23:15 pm
I can't tell if i cringe or smile at the idea <3



What.
O noez, not Pokimanz!
Why reply to a year old comment?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on November 01, 2010, 01:04:44 am
So I worked on it yesterday.

True Story.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Chef Excellence® on November 01, 2010, 05:22:18 am
So I worked on it yesterday.

True Story.

An Excellent® tale, Kudo!
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on November 01, 2010, 09:53:50 pm
So how long until completion would you estimate?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on November 02, 2010, 01:32:24 am
So how long until completion would you estimate?

At my rate, I'll set a deadline of polishing up the gameplay by Christmas.

Sprites I don't have a clue. But since it's an RPG, visuals ARE important.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on November 02, 2010, 09:04:38 pm
The real question is: do you have a solution to the fatal save bug?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on November 02, 2010, 11:29:22 pm
The real question is: do you have a solution to the fatal save bug?

No, just the loophole I discussed earlier, I'll still have to get back to that bug though.

Because fuck PMs.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: GuyWithPasta on November 04, 2010, 01:15:52 am
Yeah, manual resetting gave me a white screen. I'll take another look at it and see if I can get anything to work, but I'm pretty sure I tried everything I could think of.

Emulator save settings Automatic+Flash 128k?
Specifically this.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on November 04, 2010, 08:34:36 am
I already tried that, and nothing changed. If that would have worked I would have needed to be doing that from the beginning anyway.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on November 07, 2010, 12:00:29 am
So.... updates?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on November 07, 2010, 12:45:43 am
I've got nothing for you.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on November 07, 2010, 06:28:34 pm
*Hits Venser with a stick*

Kudo, anything?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on November 07, 2010, 09:04:31 pm
Nothing, well nothing you can see...
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on November 07, 2010, 09:29:24 pm
Oh...

Can I keep hitting Venser with a stick? :3
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on November 07, 2010, 09:33:32 pm
I have no objections to that.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on November 07, 2010, 10:47:45 pm
I object! D:
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: DraconicDescendant on November 08, 2010, 12:42:48 am
I just noticed that this game passed its 1st Anniversary of development. Cheers, guys.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on November 08, 2010, 12:53:50 am
Lets all celebrate by hitting Venser with sticks! :D

GOD PINATA! GOD PINATA! GOD PINATA!

How much you want to bet that candy, creation and trollosophy will come out?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: sans on November 10, 2010, 07:26:57 pm
I just noticed that this game passed its 1st Anniversary of development. Cheers, guys.

Happy 1st year of development! Here's a Venser Pinata!
(http://media1.px.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/XHKNRqJxXqFjsDiMiUbpqw/l)
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: i wanna be the king on November 11, 2010, 06:54:07 am
when i wanna be the pokemon are finished to download? I WAIT AND WAIT AND WAIT  >,> pls work faster^^
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on November 16, 2010, 11:24:08 pm
So Doctor, do you declare this game legally dead or on life support yet? I'm no expert, but IWBTP seems to have come down with a mild case of Duke Nukemitis.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Pokota on November 17, 2010, 11:14:03 am
Inflammation of the Duke Nukem? jk

Seriously, though, I'm tempted to start listing this as vaporware. A demo would be nice, at least ^^
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on November 17, 2010, 10:56:13 pm
College apps have been more of a priority now, and a demo would defeat the point seeing how the gameplay itself is essentially complete (aka the different teams of trainers you'll face, plenty of attacks, even changed pokemon stats. Sure some minor tweaks also help which I still do from time to time, but it's not notable to post here for those).

Although...to keep it alive I guess I'll toss out some Tri time on my schedule. We're still (weakly) in business.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on November 28, 2010, 02:07:08 am
We need some more updates, Kudo. You know we're losing interest when we're about to fall off the first page for the first time since the thread's inception.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on November 28, 2010, 06:35:19 am
Kudo, if you're getting too busy, you should just let Venser finish it. I hear he gets shit done if we harass him enough. ^^
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on November 28, 2010, 02:26:02 pm
But then I'd have to learn how to get sprites in, and I'd have to get the sprites, and I hate sprites! D:
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Fred-eye-inc on November 28, 2010, 02:28:14 pm
I love sprites :D Anyway how's development goin'?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on November 28, 2010, 02:45:37 pm
Still at an awkward point since it's stuff like movesets and whatnot. What am I supposed to say for an update, Miranda's new move? (aka, the minor tweaks I mentioned earlier). Remember kids, thread activity =/= game progress.

The priority for the game is simple: gameplay > graphics > extras. Other than Triopenis, I'll admit graphics are at a standstill due to weird palettes and crap.

As for being busy...UC app is due in two days, and I plan to turn it in today. Take that as you will.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Fred-eye-inc on November 28, 2010, 02:49:04 pm
Graphics get confusing in rom hacks. Well good luck!
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Yule on November 29, 2010, 01:01:04 am
Is a reasonable time table of when those tweaks get done possible?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: i wanna be the king on November 29, 2010, 09:55:36 am
When the game is finish?  :kid:
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on November 29, 2010, 04:40:21 pm
You know, when I started this thread, I didn't imagine that the project would last over a year and involve many hours of work on both my part and Kudo's part. <_<

The main problem with setting a timetable is even if Kudo knew exactly when he would finish his current alterations, I still need to run through again to check and see if the curve is set correctly. If it's not, we have a whole host of other problems - and that's not even considering the fact that we have a major bug in the file that we can't seem to get rid of. Other bugs are possible when Kudo makes changes (although admittedly it's unlikely Kudo would introduce any bugs that would alter the game significantly, as the main part of his current job is graphical), but even so we may need to fix other bugs.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: platinum on November 29, 2010, 07:45:28 pm
people need to stop rushing you so much. the longer this project takes, the better it'll be.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on November 29, 2010, 08:29:29 pm
people need to stop rushing you so much. the longer this project takes, the better it'll be.

This, so much. A very wise statement, platinum.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on November 29, 2010, 10:42:25 pm
See, that's what I've been saying about Duke Nukem Forever. I'm sure that the finished game will be even better than the advanced beta copy Yahtzee got a hold of.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: OLDGREG on November 30, 2010, 12:50:39 am
See, that's what I've been saying about Duke Nukem Forever. I'm sure that the finished game will be even better than the advanced beta copy Yahtzee got a hold of.

That's going to be hard to top, I don't see how it could get any better than using your ears to shoot a gun.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on November 30, 2010, 11:43:15 am
I hear you can quad wield with your ears and hands.
On topic: Kudo is making new movelists? :O
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on November 30, 2010, 02:52:54 pm
...yes, even I can change that, it's not hard. Some pokemon will be completely different.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on December 08, 2010, 12:38:04 am
Because I figure I should at LEAST post something once a week here...

Generally tweaks that needed to be done from Venser's testing. Note that some trainer pokemon may have different moves than what may normally be learnable...

In other news, I ditched the legendaries I originally put in the Rocket's Hideout. I can announce this publicly because it's something removed, and because Fuck PMs.

*Realized there weren't teams prepared for E4 Rematches & any of the trainers on the islands. That shall change.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: platinum on December 13, 2010, 09:19:59 pm
up.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on December 13, 2010, 09:57:16 pm
Day early. Pointless post is pointless, I'll be back with actual news tomorrow.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on December 13, 2010, 10:40:51 pm
Well then, I shall ensure that you do not have to doublepost. Also, still interested in that fatal bug. If you can't find anything, I'll google the shit out of it and see if I can't come up with anything.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: platinum on December 13, 2010, 11:53:37 pm
google solves most life problems. even complicated homework.
still looking forward to a demo. hopefully before the forum is flooded with BS and this thread is forgotten.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on December 14, 2010, 01:19:30 am
still looking forward to a demo.
You're wasting your time then. This isn't like a normal fangame that may go room by room, thus allowing for various demos. Edits are done by concept, thus have some things that are basically done start to finish while other things haven't been touched upon yet. Ironically for all the time wasted in-between, too many things are DONE to release a demo, while at the same time it lacks too many essential elements to be called complete.

Also, still interested in that fatal bug. If you can't find anything, I'll google the shit out of it and see if I can't come up with anything.
Remember, we've got a backup method for that in case it's irreversible.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on December 14, 2010, 09:21:46 pm
Yeah, but that is annoying as shit and won't allow players to continue past the credits (assuming I remember the workaround correctly).
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: GuyWithPasta on December 15, 2010, 01:15:52 am
Didn't we confirm that a certain set-up change of the emulator will solve it?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on December 15, 2010, 02:43:13 am
Didn't we confirm that a certain set-up change of the emulator will solve it?
The opposite really, I recall going through those changes to no avail.

Yeah, but that is annoying as shit and won't allow players to continue past the credits (assuming I remember the workaround correctly).
True, more importantly, it hinders the ability to play on external devices.

And damn. There really is little to update about that I'd rather not give away. But still, toss out the window what you knew about base stats, I'm changing a few in the list of pokemon that aren't getting a total overhaul already (keeping their totals similar though)

Worked a bit on the rematches, I think I'll keep them generally normal and similar to the their old teams rather than bonus boss standards, you'll all need a place to grind anyway (this means solving the earlier mentioned problem is more of a must)
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on December 15, 2010, 02:30:06 pm
GWP, those changes did absolutely nothing.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Velocity on December 16, 2010, 02:53:34 pm
If you get this awesome thing working, feel free to shove me in anywhere. I know requests were ended a year ago, but I assume you aren't finished.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on December 21, 2010, 01:25:22 am
If you get this awesome thing working, feel free to shove me in anywhere. I know requests were ended a year ago, but I assume you aren't finished.

Not a problem, I'll throw it in the list.

Invoking Rule 3, Venser, did you change the Eevee-lutions a while ago, or did I? Either way, 1-151 are done for now. It's Winter Break and I plan on getting a shitload done on this thing for once.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on December 21, 2010, 02:09:19 am
I think I changed them. Or maybe you did the names; I know I did the type and stat changes to make them OP. I was also thinking of [CENSORED BECAUSE I CAN'T SAY THIS HERE]
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on December 21, 2010, 02:39:00 am
I know I did the type and stat changes to make them OP

I know I did the names, this is all I needed to know. AND THE EDITING CONTINUES.

A little update I guess. Today I polished something quite nice: learnable TMs. If I'm going to fix up the gameplay, might as well get every aspect of it. Shops have also been slightly changed (more expensive because I'm an asshole)
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on December 21, 2010, 02:47:17 pm
Holy shit actual progress on this what is this I don't even
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Yule on December 22, 2010, 01:55:35 am
Go Kudo, go!
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on December 22, 2010, 02:43:21 am
Today was 151-251. I've fixed my shit up so now I have a small schedule to follow over winter break. There wasn't much for Gen II pokemon to edit really, most of the planned stuff was put over Gen I.

Regardless, this meant that thing Venser raged over back on page 61 (http://kayin.pyoko.org/iwbtg/forums/index.php?topic=5766.900). Good times.

Here's a nicer edit: remember all those pokemon you have to TRADE to get? Fuck that, alternate evolutions for all. You're all on your own for figuring them out, though. And Venser, the portion of the game we reference you, I fixed those up with this to match types.

Final Edit for the day: Overhauled a good portion of the exp curve today...what I exactly did is up for you all to speculate. Getting rid of the random legendaries was done shortly after I got the rom back months ago, so you can cross that possibility off your list.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Yule on December 22, 2010, 12:50:21 pm
No trading? FUCK YEAH, that always pissed me off about the early gens.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Pokota on December 22, 2010, 01:19:44 pm
Especially when you started emulating them and realized that you can't cheeze your way through the Elite Four with a squad of Alakazams anymore.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on December 22, 2010, 02:04:23 pm
Yeah, we discussed that before. I'm thinking we may even look into making the evolutions quite a bit different from what they once were...we'll see. Now that we know how to edit all this stuff very quickly, it really is pretty simple to do. It wouldn't add much to our workload to rework the stat totals and movepools a little bit of the pokemon we aren't already changing, just to keep things fresh.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: GuyWithPasta on December 22, 2010, 08:12:32 pm
SOOOO.......MUCH.........PROGRESS!
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on December 31, 2010, 03:03:08 am
It looks like my small little rush is over. BUT, I still plan on updating more often than I did in the past. Today I'm glad to announce that I finished up 251-the end, namely the endgame stuff didn't have their types changed (Fixed). I've planned another factor to edit next week to wrap up the actual gameplay aspects, but nothing more than review I've mentioned many times before.

You can now expect the game to be delayed another year as I figure out how the hell sprites work. No, not really.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on January 08, 2011, 10:51:49 am
Remember when this was updated? I don't ether.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on January 12, 2011, 11:36:30 pm
Cut me some slack, finals next week and college apps due, I swear I'll be able to get back to this considerably soon. D:
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on January 15, 2011, 01:34:59 pm
Well, we're now considering (since this is taking so long anyway) that we might just fuck you all and do the bonus cave before we make the first release. I figure we might as well do it right. Kudo still has to do all the sprites and such though, so I dunno how long it'll be.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on January 16, 2011, 01:12:58 am
Yes, although the topic was more or less brought up because I'm in the process of going over all the trainer battles again. This means plenty of those silly cameos. Besides, Venser reminded me of the whole 6 mods deal so the E4 is definitely going to undergo some changes.

Sprites come after that. Which if I checked properly...should be the last part before we can release the damn thing. (Although, there's still that stupid bug which I can't ignore, there must be some way to deal with it. And there's already a work-around)
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: GuyWithPasta on January 16, 2011, 06:06:43 pm
I'm still up for personalized sprites, send any my way if you need help.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on January 16, 2011, 06:17:30 pm
Well, we're now considering (since this is taking so long anyway) that we might just fuck you all and do the bonus cave before we make the first release. I figure we might as well do it right. Kudo still has to do all the sprites and such though, so I dunno how long it'll be.
I came so hard.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Silver on January 16, 2011, 06:28:18 pm
I was excited for this and then it went out of my radar. Now I want it and it's still not complete. Dammit.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Ae Zi on January 16, 2011, 06:56:23 pm
Still can't wait for this.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on January 17, 2011, 12:12:26 am
Well, we're now considering (since this is taking so long anyway) that we might just fuck you all and do the bonus cave before we make the first release. I figure we might as well do it right. Kudo still has to do all the sprites and such though, so I dunno how long it'll be.
I came so hard.
We're a lot better at doing this than when we first started. I don't actually think it'll be that hard, it's just one new thing for me to learn (creating an area; I already know how to do the warps and area alterations), and Kudo has to figure out how to create events (and there are a lot of guides around for that). It'll cost us some extra time, but not a terrible amount.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on January 17, 2011, 01:49:20 am
The testing will be the hard part! rapeface.jpg
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on January 17, 2011, 02:24:42 am
No, the hard part will be fixing the fatal bug that doesn't allow the game to start. We still don't have a solution for it.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on January 17, 2011, 02:57:07 am
What did you change with the startup from the original rom?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on January 17, 2011, 03:39:05 am
Nothing. The rom just no longer runs at startup. I'm pretty sure it's a save issue (the workaround Kudo discussed involves using an external save originally made during my run through), but changing the save settings has no effect. The next thing to try is to see if we can clear any save data from the actual file itself (that is, internal saves), which might fix the problem. I don't know how to go about it, though.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on January 23, 2011, 12:54:08 am
As mentioned in my relevant to interests thread. I did work a good bit on revising the trainers and what not. However, I don't have all the bonus-boss teams so they're not all in yet. Tomorrow I'll re-revise them if I don't end up going out.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on January 23, 2011, 01:07:29 am
page 69, kinky.
/disregardsreference
It only marks how lazily-dedicated me and Venser are to this silly project. But god DAMN will it get done.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on January 23, 2011, 01:14:58 am
Let me know if you want to create some bonus boss teams. I'm intrigued by our lack of restrictions there, let's see what we can do...
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on January 23, 2011, 01:21:56 am
Let me know if you want to create some bonus boss teams. I'm intrigued by our lack of restrictions there, let's see what we can do...

My team will be 6 of that rape thing dsk used. No, I've got some ideas already for a few of them (what with the custom moves...)
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on January 23, 2011, 01:24:25 am
My team will be 6 of that rape thing dsk used.
FUCK YOU DON'T EVEN JOKE ABOUT THAT

anyway yeah I'll spend some time thinking about it

I'll send you anything I come up with.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: superstarjonesbros on January 24, 2011, 02:49:26 pm
"Aargh why Pokémon!"
-DCX666
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on January 25, 2011, 04:54:07 pm
So did the "fix" on the bug work out?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Sarah on February 17, 2011, 01:14:55 am
Hey, I kinda forgot about this. Still wanna try it. :)
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on February 17, 2011, 06:41:56 pm
...I was just thinking about contacting Kudo, I haven't heard from him in a while. Not sure how far along he is (probably not any further than he's mentioned in this thread, we both tend to be pretty busy).
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: YoSniper on February 17, 2011, 07:20:27 pm
Why is this listed under "Other Games" when the title clearly suggests "fangame?"
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: GuyWithPasta on February 18, 2011, 08:38:52 am
Why is this listed under "Other Games" when the title clearly suggests "fangame?"
Because "fangames" are in the origional, Megaman-esque style.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on February 19, 2011, 01:01:09 am
Because the title is a joke and does not really reflect the actual game.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on February 20, 2011, 12:35:09 am
Because the title is a joke and does not really reflect the actual game.

Yeah, we're actually professional game designers communicating through a forum making a game so fucking awesome that someone like you wouldn't be able to comprehend it. Perhaps you've heard of us, the game's REAL name though?
: show
Duke Nukem Forever


Anyway, other than being caught up with a whole bunch of shit in real life, I noticed that I made a mistake when I changed all the trainers' pokemon in the tool. I disregarded repeat names, which were actually the rematches for the Vs. Seeker. So I'll fix the trainers so they flow properly with their new pokemon. This time I'll be using another method to make sure I get everything.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on February 21, 2011, 05:09:15 pm
Let me know when you playtest my rematch.

: show
(http://paradoxdgn.com/junk/avatars/trollface.jpg)
Also, spoiler syndrome.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Yule on February 24, 2011, 11:29:02 pm
Because the title is a joke and does not really reflect the actual game.
Yeah, because some fangames get worked on. >_>
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: sans on February 25, 2011, 04:00:29 pm
Because the title is a joke and does not really reflect the actual game.
Yeah, because some fangames get worked on. >_>
(http://jeffpicard.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/rim-shot-johnny-utah.jpg)
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Yule on March 07, 2011, 01:14:21 pm
Because the title is a joke and does not really reflect the actual game.
Yeah, because some fangames get worked on. >_>
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on March 08, 2011, 07:59:31 pm
I'll freely admit that even if it were in my hands and not Kudo's, I wouldn't be getting anything done. I just have too much shit to do. Way too much.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on March 12, 2011, 12:33:52 am
Work shall resume when I start seeing some acceptance letters...or rejection letters.

In other words, tomorrow or the 15th. School and work (as in my part-time job) have been eating up a lot of time. To give a good example of how much time, I haven't even touched English Pokemon Black & White.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Sarah on March 13, 2011, 05:59:44 am
Work shall resume when I start seeing some acceptance letters...or rejection letters.

In other words, tomorrow or the 15th. School and work (as in my part-time job) have been eating up a lot of time. To give a good example of how much time, I haven't even touched English Pokemon Black & White.

[jerk]Hope you get rejection letters so you have more time.[/jerk]

No, seriously, it'd be nice to have it but take your time - you've got priorities. :p
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Yule on April 05, 2011, 10:17:20 pm
Stickied so it doesn't get lost.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Pokota on April 05, 2011, 10:53:10 pm
For those who might find this amusing...
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[22:29] * feepbot welcomes Pokota (1 / 4): <Pokota> Rhiow: please take your rampant pervertedness to #fetishfuel
[22:30] <NamelessFragger> *reads join quote* As if anyone in #tropers would heed that.
[22:30] <JackMackerel> Lul
[22:30] <theenglishman> as I have mentioned before, I feel sorry for Bieber
[22:30] <theenglishman> or rather
[22:30] <theenglishman> Bieber ten years from now
[22:30] <Section42L> I kinda feel sorry for BrokenCYDE ten years from now too
[22:30] =-= Kia-AFK is now known as Kia_Purity
[22:30] <NamelessFragger> "<scribblehamster> Apparently, if Xbox doesn't get an exclusive first release for at least a few days or weeks, they don't let you release on their console at all." How do they get away with this shit?
[22:30] <Section42L> When they inevitably realize that shit may get them chicks, but it simply ain't cool
[22:31] <Section42L> Then people will continue mocking them for it forever anyways
[22:31] <Tako> http://www.qdb.us/2396 What the?
[22:31] <feepbot> QDB: Quote #2396
[22:31] <NamelessFragger> What is this, I don't even-
[22:31] <JackMackerel> Wb, Kia.
[22:32] <theenglishman> feeling better kia?
[22:32] * theenglishman *concerned fac*
[22:32] * theenglishman *concerned face*
[22:33] <Kia_Purity> a bit, yes
[22:33] <Tako> Yay!
[22:33] <Section42L> ASCII art within IRC
[22:33] * theenglishman huggles Kia_Purity
[22:33] <Section42L> I have to admit there's some skill behind that
[22:33] <Section42L> I applaud the man, I tell you what :)
[22:34] <theenglishman> cause I was like
[22:34] <theenglishman> baby
[22:34] <theenglishman> baby
[22:34] <DavidChaos> Who the hell is BrokenCYDE?
[22:34] <theenglishman> baby
[22:34] <theenglishman> whoa
[22:34] <theenglishman> like baby
[22:34] <theenglishman> baby
[22:34] <theenglishman> baby
[22:34] =-= Mode #tropers -v+b theenglishman *!*theenglis@38.117.69.71 by TropeBot
[22:34] <theenglishman> whoaa~
[22:34] <theenglishman> IT WAS WORTH IT
[22:34] <Section42L> DavidChaos: You don't wanna know, this will tell you everything that you want to know
[22:35] <Section42L> "Brokencyde - Hideous white boy hip-hop/screamo garbage with auto tuner. Just HIDEOUS, GODFUCKINGAWFUL music. Imagine the sissiest keyboard music in the world, with these idiots screaming over it as if it were death metal. They go by the names "Se7en," "Phat J," "Mikl" and "Antz," like geniuses would. If this band actually has fans, then it is time for music
[22:35] <Section42L> itself to die."
[22:35] * Kia_Purity hugs back
[22:35] <Section42L> (Thanks, {{Mark Prindle}} _
[22:35] <Section42L> )
[22:35] <TropeBot> http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MarkPrindle
[22:35] <theenglishman> can you still see my posts, guys? :/
[22:35] <Section42L> Yes, so I have no idea how you're still here
[22:35] <Section42L> I guess they know you're not ban-worthy :P
[22:35] <DavidChaos> I now want to hear this.
[22:35] <DavidChaos> So that I can be offended by it.
[22:35] <Section42L> .youtube BrokenCYDE Freaxxx
[22:35] <Section42L> Yes, that's how the song is seriously spelt
[22:36] <theenglishman> I am banhammer-proof apparently
[22:36] =-= Mode #tropers +v-b theenglishman *!*theenglis@38.117.69.71 by TropeBot
[22:36] <theenglishman> ^_^
[22:37] <theenglishman> KIRBY DANCE! <('.'<) ^('.')^ (>'.')> v('.')v <('.'<) ^('.')^ (>'.')> v('.')v <('.'<) ^('.')^ (>'.')> v('.')v <('.'<) ^('.')^ (>'.')> v(^.^)^
[22:37] <JackMackerel> lol
[22:37] <Section42L> .yt BrokenCYDE Freaxx
[22:37] <Section42L> @yt BrokenCYDE Freaxxx
[22:37] <Section42L> @youtube BrokenCYDE Freaxxx
[22:37] <Section42L> A little help here?
[22:37] <theenglishman> .google youtube brokencyde freaxx
[22:37] =-= EmpoleMew is now known as WashingMewchine
[22:38] <feepbot> theenglishman: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5GNwCITd9g YouTube - Brokencyde - Freaxx Music Video :D
[22:38] <Section42L> Thanks :)
[22:38] <theenglishman> .help
[22:38] <theenglishman> or you could use that
[22:38] <theenglishman> .mansion
[22:38] <feepbot> theenglishman: It's a Purple Business from the Contemporary era. Its mood is Hard. It has Strategic Preparations and Traces of Memories.
[22:38] <Section42L> .test
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[22:38] * feepbot welcomes Doc_Random (6 / 6): [19:48] <+Doc_Random> I'm part of an epidemic of [19:48] <+Doc_Random> teen drinking
[22:39] <Section42L> .help YouTube
[22:39] <theenglishman> feepbot, are you describing a mansion or a porn star?
[22:39] <Doc_Random> They can both have hairy bushes, sometimes.
[22:39] <Section42L> It doesn't have Google anymore :(
[22:39] <DavidChaos> That, and I enjoy ripping into people in YouTube videos.
[22:39] <Section42L> I mean YouTube
[22:39] * Babar pokes some tropers
[22:39] <Section42L> .anidb Lovely Complex
[22:39] <feepbot> Section42L: Lovely Complex: official title ラブ★コン/ラブ★コン/Bezvadná dvojka/Lovely Complex |
[22:39] <feepbot> Section42L: Type: TV Series, 24 episodes | Year: 07.04.2007 till 29.09.2007 | Categories:
[22:39] <feepbot> Section42L: Comedy, Coming of Age, Daily Life, High School, Manga, Romance, School Life, Shoujo, Slapstick, Super Deformed
[22:39] <feepbot> Section42L: | Rating: 8.39 (2870) (weighted) |
[22:39] <feepbot> Section42L: http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=5053
[22:39] <Section42L> Cool 8-)
[22:40] <theenglishman> animes
[22:40] <feepbot> theenglishman: It's anime.
[22:40] <theenglishman> SHUT UP
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[22:40] * feepbot welcomes Zakdos (1 / 2): <Zakdos> isn't it sex? what do you want to remember? that's what porn is for
[22:41] <Section42L> animes crazy
[22:41] <feepbot> Section42L: Just "anime".
[22:41] <Doc_Random> Animus. The jungian kind. Feepbot doesn't pick on that the last time I remember, I believe.
[22:41] <Section42L> feepbot is an animes
[22:41] <feepbot> Section42L: Anime is its own plural.
[22:41] <theenglishman> annie mays
[22:41] <theenglishman> HA
[22:41] <theenglishman> FOOLED YA THERE FEEPBOT
[22:41] <theenglishman> YOU STUPID BOTTY BOT
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[22:41] * NamelessFragger suddenly remembers about some apparently RPG Maker-made game that appears to be IWBTG: The JRPG, in the sense of "THE OVERWORLD IS TRYING TO KILL YOU"
[22:42] <theenglishman> NamelessFragger: it's called 7th Saga
[22:42] <Section42L> Animes is a French term, so we should all stop using it to refer to Japanese animation now, or at least realize its proper context in Japan as referring to all animation ever
[22:42] <feepbot> Section42L: It's anime.
[22:42] <Section42L> Sorry, that just bugs me, okay? :P
[22:43] <DavidChaos> Y'know, these guys would probably be more popular if not for the awful screaming shit.
[22:43] <NamelessFragger> theenglishman: Hmmm...down to the invisible save points, land mines, black balls that try to kill you, "Yes/No/Die" Schmuck Bait prompts, and more? (Along with "random" battles that are actually EASIER than walking around the overworld safely?)
[22:43] <DavidChaos> Just the one guy in the group, really.
[22:43] <theenglishman> NamelessFragger: more or less
[22:43] <theenglishman> I Wanna Be the Bishie
[22:43] <theenglishman> the JRPG version of IWBTG
[22:44] <JackMackerel> Hott.
[22:44] <theenglishman> JackMackerel: is there ANYTHING that doesn't arouse you in some way?
[22:44] <JackMackerel> No, I just use the word "hott"
[22:45] <Tako> The should be a Beat 'em Up varsion of IWTBG, and call it "I wanna be the Haggar"
[22:45] <Doc_Random> He's hypersexual.
[22:45] * DavidChaos hears another BrokenCYDE song.
[22:45] <theenglishman> HAGGAR
[22:45] <theenglishman> HERMY? WHERE HAGGAR!
[22:45] <Doc_Random> Or sees the world as hypersexualized.
[22:45] <duvel> tako no no, final fight is too well designed to fit
[22:45] <duvel> you'd want like, x-men arcade
[22:45] * DavidChaos rips ears off.
[22:45] <JackMackerel> .addquote JackMackerel <+theenglishman> JackMackerel: is there ANYTHING that doesn't arouse you in some way?
[22:45] <feepbot> JackMackerel: Please don't selfquote!
[22:45] <duvel> final fight had good design and was playable. x-men arcade was rape unless you had a partner, and then it was just bearable
[22:46] <Tako> I wanna move da blob!
[22:46] <JackMackerel> ;_;
[22:46] <theenglishman> there's also the eroge version
[22:46] <theenglishman> I Wanna Bang the Gal
[22:46] <JackMackerel> Heheh, it's "hard".
[22:46] <Pokota> Ugh...
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[22:47] <Pokota> Please never say that to anyone from IWBTF
[22:47] <Pokota> they WILL defictionalize it
[22:47] <Tako> There shoud be a spongebob version "I wanna BEEEE THE MARBLE!"
[22:47] =-= OddaCuL8r is now known as OddaC
[22:47] <theenglishman> or the Team Fortress 2, I Wanna BONK! the Doc
[22:47] <Babar> hey OddaC
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[22:47] * feepbot welcomes Hazuki (14 / 18): <Jackerel|Writingstuff> {{STALKER}} and a Touhou crossover >_> <Hazuki> Shadow of Cirnobyl?
[22:47] <theenglishman> *Team Fortress 2 mod,
[22:47] <JackMackerel> Wb.
[22:47] <Hazuki> thanks
[22:47] <Zakdos> I Wanna Dodge intrincate repetitive bullet patterns for an hour while wondering why nobody put autofire on this damn game <-- Danmaku version
[22:47] <JackMackerel> @theenglishman - Bonk the doc, or *bonk* the doc?
[22:48] <JackMackerel> .google I wanna be the shrine maiden
[22:48] <feepbot> JackMackerel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOSq6VVJT3I YouTube - I wanna be the Shrine Maiden (part1)
[22:48] =-= Starless_Jack is now known as Eggie
[22:48] <theenglishman> or the aforementioned I Wanna Be The Goy
[22:49] <NamelessFragger> What...the...hell? http://www.stfj.net/art/2009/loselose/
[22:49] <feepbot> lose/lose
[22:49] <Tako> And now the new bread version "I Wanna be the Rye"
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[22:50] <theenglishman> NamelessFragger: I've heard of that before
[22:50] <JackMackerel> @NamelessFragger - How the Hell did they get to view that without their video exploding>
[22:50] <theenglishman> it's a consensual virus
[22:50] <Tako> Final Boss=System32?
[22:50] <DavidChaos> And the gay version: "I Wanna Beat That Guy"
[22:50] <theenglishman> the Final boss is explorer.exe
[22:50] <Strife89> Only play that one in a virtual machine.
[22:51] <JackMackerel> @DavidChaos - YOu need to add an "off" at the end.
[22:51] <NamelessFragger> Strife89: Wise advice.
[22:51] <NamelessFragger> Tako: I was wondering the same thing.
[22:51] <theenglishman> or the Russian Reversal Zork edition: I Wanna Eat the Grue
[22:52] <theenglishman> .quote gru
[22:52] <feepbot> <+GenericUser> eventually it'll be short grunts of "THIF" and "ASSFAT"
[22:52] <theenglishman> .quote gru
[22:52] <feepbot> <+theenglishman> I hear Zork had some changes when they made a Soviet localization. "It is pitch dark. You are likely to be beaten by a GRU."
[22:52] <BonSequitur> Whew.
[22:52] <Strife89> "Although touching aliens will cause the player to lose the game, and killing aliens awards points, the aliens will never actually fire at the player. This calls into question the player's mission, which is never explicitly stated, only hinted at through classic game mechanics. Is the player supposed to be an aggressor? Or merely an observer, traversing through a dangerous land?"
[22:52] <Babar> hey bon how's it going
[22:52] <JackMackerel> Heyoo, bon.
[22:52] <Tako> Preaty big story for a virus. =P
[22:53] <DavidChaos> StarCraft Version! "I Wanna Construct the Pylons!"
[22:53] <Babar> more vespene gas?
[22:53] <Zakdos> 'mon version: I wanna catch'em all
[22:53] <JackMackerel> Lol.
[22:53] <theenglishman> NOT ENOUGH MINERALS
[22:53] <BonSequitur> I'm really enjoying 0x1dUnfamiliar Fishes.
[22:53] <theenglishman> MY WIFE FOR HIRE!
[22:53] <NamelessFragger> The aliens don't shoot at the player, but some of them do try to RAM the player!
[22:53] <theenglishman> TOSS THE ZERG
[22:53] <Tako> SNK version "I wanna be tha Gai"
[22:53] <Babar> BonSequitur: new webcomic?
[22:53] <Tako> *The
[22:53] <theenglishman> NamelessFragger: >_>
[22:54] <BonSequitur> lolno
[22:54] <BonSequitur> Book.
[22:54] <Babar> oh
[22:54] <Strife89> NamelessFragger: Heh. :P
[22:54] <theenglishman> Tako: or the Fallout version, "I Wanna Kill the Yao Guai"
[22:54] <DavidChaos> Naruto Version: "I Wanna Be the Hokage".
[22:54] <theenglishman> .quote yao guai
[22:54] <feepbot> theenglishman: No quotes for yao guai!
[22:54] <DavidChaos> Pronounced Ho-cage.
[22:54] <Strife89> .quote Strife89
[22:54] <feepbot> Strife89: No quotes for Strife89!
[22:54] <Strife89> Feh
[22:54] <theenglishman> Yaoi Guys >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yao Guai\
[22:54] <BonSequitur> It's a non-fiction Sarah Vowell book about the Americanization and colonisation of Hawaii.
[22:54] <theenglishman> .quote yaoi
[22:54] <feepbot> <Eggie> {{Practically Canon}} <TropeBot> Trope PracticallyCanon doesn't exist. Closest match: Yaoi Guys http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/YaoiGuys
[22:54] <DavidChaos> .quote yaoi
[22:54] <Tako> .quote tako
[22:54] <feepbot> <Eggie> {{Practically Canon}} <TropeBot> Trope PracticallyCanon doesn't exist. Closest match: Yaoi Guys http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/YaoiGuys
[22:54] <feepbot> <Meiriona> SO TINY AND ADORABLE <Tako> Thanks, I try to take care of it <TK> It's a shame my mom won't let me or dad have one.
[22:54] <theenglishman> .quote yaoi
[22:54] <feepbot> <Eggie> {{Practically Canon}} <TropeBot> Trope PracticallyCanon doesn't exist. Closest match: Yaoi Guys http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/YaoiGuys
[22:54] <theenglishman> .quote yaoi guys
[22:54] <feepbot> <Eggie> {{Practically Canon}} <TropeBot> Trope PracticallyCanon doesn't exist. Closest match: Yaoi Guys http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/YaoiGuys
[22:55] <NamelessFragger> HOLY SUDDEN BOT ABUSE
[22:55] <Strife89> Stopstopstop
[22:55] <theenglishman> .trope I'll stop in a minute. Geeze, mom, you're so touchy!
[22:55] <feepbot> theenglishman: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ptitledoyhdqmn
[22:55] <Strife89> "I'll Kill You!"
[22:55] <Strife89> Whut
[22:55] <theenglishman> I KEEL YOU DRAKE
[22:56] <Tako> Waku Waku 7 Version "I wanna be the Rai"
[22:56] <Strife89> theenglishman: I think feepbot sent you a very strong message ;P
[22:56] <Tako> Kirby Version "I wanna be the Hiiiiii"
[22:56] <theenglishman> the appliance repairman version: I Wanna Fix the Dryer
[22:56] <Tako> Or KLD1 on extra with one HP
[22:56] <Strife89> Tako: Nice one
[22:57] <NamelessFragger> .addquote feepbot <theenglishman> .trope I'll stop in a minute. Geeze, mom, you're so touchy! <feepbot> theenglishman: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ptitledoyhdqmn <Strife89> "I'll Kill You!" <Strife89> Whut
[22:57] <feepbot> NamelessFragger: Quote added (64)
[22:57] <Strife89> I can see Kirby saying that in my head
[22:57] <JackMackerel> Wat?
[22:57] <Strife89> NamelessFragger: Ohhey :P
[22:57] <Tako> DK64 version "I wanna be one hell of a guy"
[22:58] <Strife89> Ook ooo ooo OOK
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[22:58] <NamelessFragger> Tako: Back then, I was surprised that Nintendo let "hell" slip in an N64 game like that...then they censored it in Brawl's DK Rap rendition.
[22:58] <LowBatteryLife> "I wanna be a pretty cool guy"
[22:58] <JackMackerel> Bbl, gonna run home.
[22:58] * Tako still has his DK64 cart =D
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[22:58] * Strife89 never had such a cart.
[22:58] <theenglishman> Tako: the Conker's Bad Fur Day version, I Wanna Throw My Shit at the Guy
[22:58] <Strife89> ... Actually, I never owned an N64. :(
[22:59] * NamelessFragger doesn't have his original cart, much less the box and manual, but got another cart from a thrift store
[22:59] <Strife89> Although my cousin had one while I was living with him
[22:59] <theenglishman> I AM THE GREAT MIGHTY POO
[22:59] <theenglishman> AND I WILL THROW MY SHIT AT YOU
[22:59] <Strife89> Only way I ever had to play OoT on the real thing
[22:59] =-= WashingMewchine is now known as EmpoleMew
[22:59] <NamelessFragger> Strife89: I'd offer you mine, except I only have one. Maybe if I get another one that's easier to RGB-mod...
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[22:59] * feepbot welcomes TylerP223 (2 / 7): <TylerP223> Damn R34... why must you ruin everybody's collective childhood for the benefit of furries and people that think their toaster is sexy
[22:59] <Strife89> theenglishman: I watched that on YouTube once. Couldn't stop laughing. :)
[22:59] <TylerP223> ...
[22:59] <TylerP223> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZ_bhwCgtXg
[22:59] <TylerP223> Jesus
[23:00] <Strife89> Truly, TGMP is the best. Boss. Ever.
[23:00] <theenglishman> Yes?
[23:00] <feepbot> YouTube - Pokemon Vietnamese Crystal Part 1
[23:00] <TylerP223> Professor ELF gets Signal
[23:00] <Strife89> And I've never even fought him.
[23:00] =-= Esser-Z is now known as Esser-Bed
[23:00] <TylerP223> Good god this is the most hilarious thing I have EVER seen
[23:00] <TylerP223> And worse translation job ever
[23:00] <NamelessFragger> TylerP223: This wasn't what I was expecting. I can only wonder how horribad that translation is...if it can top Telefang's.
[23:00] <TylerP223> Keep watching
[23:01] <TylerP223> Wait till the clock shows up and Proffesor ELF's text
[23:01] <LowBatteryLife> It's pretty fantastic. Team Rocket is transleted as GROUP OF MISSLE BOMB
[23:01] <NamelessFragger> For that matter, what would a Pokemon-themed I Wanna Be The Guy be titled?
[23:01] <theenglishman> Strife89: I found most of the humour in CBFD to be stupid and juvenile and unfunny, except for Great Mighty Poo, which is stupid, juvenile, and funny
[23:01] <theenglishman> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0w5neFPat1w
[23:01] <EmpoleMew> I Wanna Catch Em All
[23:01] <feepbot> YouTube - Conker's Bad Fur Day - The Great Mighty Poo
[23:01] <TylerP223> I Wanna be Arceus
[23:01] <NamelessFragger> "I Wanna Be The Master (That No One Ever Was)"? "I Wanna Be The Arceus"?
[23:02] <theenglishman> I WANNA BE
[23:02] <theenglishman> THE VERY BEST
[23:02] <Tako> No Pokemons IWBTG is "I wanna be the very best"
[23:02] <Pokota> Nameless: Try "I Wanna Be The Pokemon"
[23:02] <theenglishman> LIKE NO ONE EVR WAS
[23:02] <theenglishman> TO CATCH THEM IS MY REAL QUEST
[23:02] <theenglishman> TO TRAIN THEM IS MY CAUSE
[23:02] <Pokota> (There's apparently a hack by that name in production)
[23:02] <theenglishman> I WILL TRAVEL ACROSS THE LAND
[23:02] <theenglishman> SEARCHING FAR AND WIDE
[23:02] <TylerP223> I wanna be CrystalLlamaJesusmon
[23:02] <theenglishman> TEACH POKÉMON TO UNDERSTAND
[23:02] <EmpoleMew> fail, it's "real test" go back to nostalgia school
[23:02] <theenglishman> THE POWER THAT'S INSIDE~
[23:02] <EmpoleMew> and it's "each pokemon"
[23:02] <EmpoleMew> see me after class
[23:02] <NamelessFragger> Pokota: Too generic.
[23:02] <Pokota> I'm not the one that came up with the name
[23:02] <Pokota> I think it was Venser
[23:03] <Tako> Street Fighter version "I wanna be the Family man"
[23:03] <NamelessFragger> Tako: Damn, guess my memory's tried to squash and suppress that damn song.
[23:03] <theenglishman> anyway
[23:03] <theenglishman> I'm off to bed
[23:03] <TylerP223> Digimon Version: I don't want to be exported
[23:03] <theenglishman> EmpoleMew: I LIKE MY MONDEGREENS BETTER >:(
[23:03] <Pokota> http://kayin.pyoko.org/iwbtg/forums/index.php?topic=5766.0
[23:03] <feepbot> I Wanna Be The Pokemon
[23:03] <TylerP223> Dude, I have THE 2.B.A.Master album on my laptop
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[23:04] * feepbot welcomes Nyperold (1 / 2): <NamelessFragger> Malkyrian: It doesn't make much sense...but hatred rarely is rational. I don't think I'll dive back down into the image boards just to study the hatred for any patterns. <Nyperold> People exercising their freedom from being punched in the mouth.
[23:04] <theenglishman> I would play an I Wanna Bang the Gal eroge
[23:04] <Tako> Azumanga Daioh version "I WANNA BE A BIRD!"
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[23:04] <theenglishman> the hardest H-game visual novel ever!
[23:04] <TylerP223> Along with the soundtracks to the first three movies
[23:04] <Pokota> eng: Didn't we already do that?
[23:04] <TylerP223> The album by OCRemix
[23:04] <Pokota> "I Wanna Be The Pimp"
[23:04] <theenglishman> *shrug*
[23:04] <NamelessFragger> Pokota: I bet this ROM hack is going to have a lot of GARY MOTHERFUCKING OAK encounters.
[23:04] <theenglishman> the waitering version
[23:04] <theenglishman> I Wanna Serve the Drinks
[23:05] <theenglishman> okay now I'm off to bed for reals
[23:05] <theenglishman> g'night kids!
[23:05] <LowBatteryLife> Hold up.
[23:05] * NamelessFragger facepalms at one of the early posts in that thread
[23:05] <Pokota> More like "You're given a Lv. 1 Wynaut at the start. The first gym is Dark type. Have fun."
[23:05] <LowBatteryLife> The pokemon version of IWBTG is "I wanna be Gary Oak"
[23:05] * theenglishman snore
[23:05] <Strife89> GARY MUTHAFUCKIN OAK
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on April 09, 2011, 02:24:40 pm
I just reread this whole goddamn thread wishing that elves would finish the game while I was reading.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on April 16, 2011, 11:20:22 am
...I'll contact Kudo as soon as I can, but let's be honest here: there's no way I'm finishing this until I have more time, as in the summer. As long as Kudo isn't going to be a massive douchewhistle and we can actually get some work done then, I seriously expect a finish around midsummer.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on April 17, 2011, 04:21:35 pm
Here's your "sorry, we did nothing reply" Actually, I was hoping you guys could forget about it for a bit so I could release an update when you least expected it. Currently, the project is on the same phase as it was before, gameplay polishing. Progress is (extremely) slow due to the continuing interruptions (aka schoolwork. English Projects. English Projects everywhere).

I seriously expect a finish around midsummer.

I'm going to give myself until the end of May for what I'm working on now, and some of the sprites. I still haven't found any solution to the startup & save problem, but at least this will be computer emulator playable.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Silver on May 16, 2011, 04:16:43 pm
Also needs to be brought to attention. What be going on?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on May 17, 2011, 12:15:23 am
Due to some other issues regarding getting into college, my parents took away my computer (which had all the stuff for IWBTP on it) so progress is forced to a stop right now until a couple of weeks or so, maybe more. (However, if I find the chance, aka enough time my parents are out, I can ninja the files onto my hard-drive and work on them else-where sparingly.)
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Tim on May 22, 2011, 03:07:07 am
Can I be in it with a clefairy team with all of the clefairies to know metronome.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on May 22, 2011, 03:29:46 am
Can I be in it with a clefairy team with all of the clefairies to know metronome.
I'm pretty sure it's WAY past the deadline. o_o
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on May 22, 2011, 01:12:57 pm
I'm pretty sure Kudo is even lazier than I am.

But yeah, that's up to Kudo but you are indeed way past the deadline...that thing in the OP is from last year. <_<
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Mort, the Lonely on June 17, 2011, 04:08:19 pm
I can't remember whether it was Vesner or Kudo I pm'd it, but I remember being told I was gonna be in the game.

I think I more appropriate title would be 'I Wanna Be The Pokemon: Forever'.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: SilentLoner on June 17, 2011, 05:07:04 pm
I think I more appropriate title would be 'I Wanna Be The Pokemon: Forever'.
...So, who will be taking over this game later on?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on July 12, 2011, 01:37:24 pm
DNF has come out. Why hasn't this? D:<
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on August 16, 2011, 01:32:42 pm
I know that this is terrible news, but Kudo and I have given up on finding a fix for the seemingly irreversible bug that was somehow introduced into our copy of the rom.

So we're beginning again. With a whole fresh copy.

It's going to be a while.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Fidel CashFlow on August 16, 2011, 01:42:03 pm
>See a post in IWBTP
>Jizz when I see that it was a post by Venny boy.
>FOR THE LOVE OF FUCK. WHAT THE DICKS MAN.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Pokota on August 16, 2011, 10:02:27 pm
Just remember to do unit testing this time; every time you make a new change, TEST IT THOROUGHLY!
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Sarah on August 17, 2011, 05:10:26 am
I know that this is terrible news, but Kudo and I have given up on finding a fix for the seemingly irreversible bug that was somehow introduced into our copy of the rom.

So we're beginning again. With a whole fresh copy.

It's going to be a while.

(http://files.sharenator.com/ffffuuuu_RE_New_board_game-s513x387-78848-580.jpg)
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on August 17, 2011, 07:55:03 am
Urge to nuke everything rising!
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on August 19, 2011, 09:21:25 pm
Hey, at least we're paying attention to it!

On the bright side, I'm so much better at map editing than when I first did it it will be a breeze compared to last time.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on August 20, 2011, 02:16:03 am
I'd like to switch around my team if that's okay.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on August 20, 2011, 08:22:27 am
Kudo might allow that, but probably not. We already switched a few things on your team to make it more...in line with the changes we made. You'll appreciate the changes, I'm sure, but we can't exactly tell you without spoiling some of the unannounced changes.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on August 21, 2011, 02:23:11 pm
Alright.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Mort, the Lonely on November 06, 2011, 03:50:01 pm
The fan club in Viridian City.

Make it a Pony fan club ran by silver.

Instead of a bike ticket, he gives you an inflatable Rainbow Dash doll.

You go outside and swap it with a furry Pokemaniac for a Bike Ticket.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on November 06, 2011, 09:54:47 pm
Vermillion City's Pokémon Fan Club you mean? Brilliant idea, I would implement it immediately if it wasn't for the fact that...

: show
...he's already there.


Kidding (although Silver IS already implemented), I'm a nostalgia fag so this hack will be more based off the older days of the forum- like when this stupid project started. Sorry, IWBTP will be a pony-free zone but I do have some plans of adding more recent events of this forum into the hack later on...Sevii islands anyone?

Now start discussing conspiracy theories over whether or not I'm doing shit.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on November 07, 2011, 01:33:19 pm
Don't worry, we know you're not!
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Mort, the Lonely on November 08, 2011, 07:45:02 am
A cool reference to the old game could be having the Professor Oak fight that you had to glitch to get.

Also, Evan in the pokemon league, with a team of lvl 50 Electrodes that only know Explosion, and one Vaporeon that spams Toxic.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on December 14, 2011, 03:52:12 am
Reworked my resources recently and fixed a few figments,

And fuck alliteration, it is like fucking Christmas all up in here with progress that I'll be too vague to bother explaining except to Venser.

Also, if my curve plans work out (which you can bet won't), I'll have something playable relatively soon- minus sprites, but that's still lowest on my priorities.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on December 14, 2011, 04:26:05 pm
But that does mean that I get to play it, so I can laugh in all of your faces when I can.

Then again, this is IWBTP time, so I'll probably get that playable version in about 6 months.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Fidel CashFlow on December 15, 2011, 01:00:53 am
Part of my college program focuses on creating sprites, I could maybe lend a hand with that?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Koppis on March 01, 2013, 07:53:01 am
Hey. Bump... and stuff.

*shows interest*
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on March 01, 2013, 03:10:24 pm
Negative progress. Seriously, each time I go back to it, less of it works.

Although I've been bribed to do something about that within the next 2-3 months.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: sans on March 01, 2013, 10:56:55 pm
Negative progress. Seriously, each time I go back to it, less of it works.
Although I've been bribed to do something about that within the next 2-3 months.

: You know you want to, Kudo • show
(http://www.dunbarsystems.com/Images/enlarge/croissant1-enlarge(07czf3).jpg)(http://cpub.s3.amazonaws.com/images/business/b_2012030821472565688)
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kloud on April 09, 2013, 08:06:25 pm
I wanna play this, is it still being worked on? the long awaited iwbtp lol
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Evan20000 on April 16, 2013, 11:54:24 pm
Given that it's in negative progress-mode, I think every post in this thread delays it even further.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Dagnarok on July 05, 2013, 11:27:42 pm
Given that it's in negative progress-mode, I think every post in this thread delays it even further.

THEN WE POST IN THIS THREAD SO MUCH THAT THE NEGATIVE PROGRESS FLUXES UPON ITSELF AND BECOMES POSITIVE!!
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Pokota on July 06, 2013, 07:43:20 am
You know that only works in cyclical cycles, right?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: sans on July 29, 2013, 12:41:12 am
So... how goes that file transfer from your old work computer, Kudo?

Just curious, is all...
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on July 29, 2013, 01:31:38 am
Well, with my work schedule lately, I've been busy with New Leaf and SMTIV scolding little children to learn there maths all day, so as usual, I constantly forget and the negative progress goes further.

That's why I'm here to tell you I've actually done the file transfer. Surprise! Now to test each and every one of these damn things to figure out which has what. Thankfully, I've actually got time on my schedule tomorrow to do so, but I can throw copies at you without testing them (like last time) if you want.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: shitty name fixed on December 31, 2013, 03:47:55 pm
So...this is still being worked on?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: MetaKK on December 31, 2013, 04:04:45 pm
Yeah. It's not like showing interest in an abandoned project/one on hold might just get the maker back on it with enough effort. Let's just be a dick about it.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: shitty name fixed on December 31, 2013, 06:39:46 pm
It's been years since an update and it's a running joke here how infrequently Kudo and Venser work on it and how unlikely it is to ever happen. Did you read the thread?

The last page is literally jokes about how it's never gonna happen.
I ain't readin 73 pages fuck that das sum ol' bullshit
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Pokota on January 01, 2014, 09:47:41 am
but I can throw copies at you without testing them (like last time) if you want.

you're busy, we're considerably less so. Post them all and let God us sort them out.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on January 02, 2014, 10:26:37 pm
but I can throw copies at you without testing them (like last time) if you want.

you're busy, we're considerably less so. Post them all and let God us sort them out.

Surprisingly, that's one of the few things I DID do. Mkid has em'.

At some point I should probably choose the best one, tweak it a little, and make that public. Although the thing's dated as fuck (many references, long forgotten), I can't even remember all the gym leader replacements anymore...and looks really sloppy since there was never any sprite work. Dare I say it'd be like just another fangame.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on January 02, 2014, 10:43:44 pm
I'm okay with it as long as I get to slay the absolute fuck out of Venser at some point.

As creators of the game, we had planned on only doing self-inserts at the very end: with the rest of the bonuses (member rematches), stuff we didn't get to since the main game was still a mess. Therefore, neither Venser nor myself appear anywhere in the game.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: ForestFalcon on January 03, 2014, 12:35:41 am
Are Magikarps going to be more or less effective in this game?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: sans on January 03, 2014, 05:07:01 pm
Surprisingly, that's one of the few things I DID do. Mkid has em'.
Speaking of, you still want that old one I fixed? I can hop on Skype after work and send it your way.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on January 04, 2014, 02:13:58 am
Surprisingly, that's one of the few things I DID do. Mkid has em'.
Speaking of, you still want that old one I fixed? I can hop on Skype after work and send it your way.
Yeah sure, that'd probably be best as a base for anything else I toss on it.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on March 29, 2014, 11:29:27 am
Hey, I remember this. What a great idea that never worked out.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on December 07, 2014, 03:51:32 am
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53432719/iwbtpbannertrans.png)

Features


: Basic Walkthrough • show

Man, needing a walkthrough? What a scrub. Really let's get down to this, it might answer some questions.

PALLET TOWN (name not final)
Just like in Firered, get scolded by Professor Neo and pick a starter.

Starter stats: Guaranteed to be level 1 with no attacking moves.
Lose to the rival- Guaranteed to be level 10 with super effective moves. Man, what a cheater.

Let's see, you've got no attacks, free hold berry, or the like. You might want to grab that potion out of your PC before leaving, and then the one from the pokemart dude. They're your two heals for the trips between Pallet and Viridian. Can't beat anything along the way? Of course not, RUN. Save between grass patches if you must- you expected no bullshit in a IWBTG fangame? For shame.

VIRIDIAN CITY (name not final)
Go to the mart and grab NEO's PARCEL, then head for the hills back home. Training is futile, but now's a good time to use the pokecenter if you took a hit. It's jumbled & screwed up, but should work.

Ledge hop your sorry ass back to Pallet Town and get the pokedex. Keep in mind things may not be so simple in the final release...

Great, now you've got pokeballs- the real game begins here, if you're ballsy- try to catch something on Route 1 despite your completely inability to whittle HP down. Get back to Viridian, go past Old Man Weedle and pick up that item that's been taunting you.

You receive: 3 Rare Candies, TM10 (Tackle) (It only says 1 Rare Candy, but check the inventory- you'll have 3). Placed there to make your starter a usable Pokemon- from here you can grind and proceed normally.
Nuttier players will save the Rare Candies and try to level their starter using the TM in conjunction with whatever they catch with their pokeballs. That sounds really goddamn bothersome but I'm not the boss of you.

You don't need a walkthrough from this point on, just know that past the first gym leader there's nothing new left.

: Some changes... • show

Pokemon seen in the demo:
Loopy(Normal/Flying) -> Biplane(Normal/Flying) -> Miranda(Electric/Flying)
Cabbage(Grass/Water).

Moves seen in the demo: QUOTE TRAIN (Rollout, except Normal type. No longer a need to worry about it steamrolling your plane & probably-fire starter with type-advantage- just need to worry about it steamrolling). I may have left a few other moves found mostly in the full version, but without (super easy) data mining, you probably won't come across them.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Valkema on December 07, 2014, 10:43:04 am
(http://puu.sh/dkJvV/01a476fc64.png)
this is a game
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Pokota on December 07, 2014, 04:18:31 pm
Softlock in the Pokemon Center while stalking to Nurse Joy.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kudo. on December 07, 2014, 05:43:02 pm
Updated post with a little bit of info on the demo. This is primarily testing grounds to see your reactions to the changed game-start "balance." Otherwise, plans all the way up through the E4 are more or less complete.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Fatih on December 09, 2014, 12:01:12 am
holy shit its continued
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kloud on December 12, 2014, 09:59:08 pm
omg, a demo finally comes out and.I can't even play it x.x I'm moving tomorrow, and I'm hoping there's a PC there. If there is I'm playing it asap! So much hype <3

Also, I'm back to1k posts pro wins! Now to get back too 1337, idk if I'll ever make it doubt I can last this long
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Infinite on December 12, 2014, 10:34:01 pm
And suddenly IWBTP is relevant.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Pokota on December 12, 2014, 10:57:19 pm
Finished? Not yet.

Relevant? Who cares?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Kloud on December 15, 2014, 02:09:59 am
I'm trying to play this on my phone, is this at all possible? Let me know now so I don't waste time trying to apply the patch the the fire red rom
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Pokota on December 15, 2014, 11:50:43 am
...are you using my Pokemon Yellow Randomized patch or simply running the randomizer? There's a HUGE difference between the two.

And depending on your phone, yes. I have a cheap-ass Krogerphone that I can run GBC games on.


DISREGARD THAT, I CAN'T FORUMS.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Venser on December 16, 2014, 12:47:23 am
I'm trying to play this on my phone, is this at all possible? Let me know now so I don't waste time trying to apply the patch the the fire red rom
Yep, that's how I was initially doing the testing back in the day. Should still be perfectly possible.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: liquidCorgster on January 25, 2015, 09:29:05 pm
Holy shit.

I feel like I'm not going to get most of the jokes, though. It's been way too long.
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Musefan9589 on March 15, 2015, 09:52:44 pm
What do I do after applying the patch?
Title: Re: I Wanna Be The Pokemon
Post by: Pokota on March 16, 2015, 06:51:00 am
Lose.