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Title: Secret items!
Post by: personaomega on February 01, 2008, 04:47:50 am
So.. how many has everyone here got? And which ones? Try to keep to hints, please, and try to put everything important behind spoiler tags. For instance, okay to say "I've got item 1, 2 and 3" (which I do), but if you wanna say /where/ these items are, spoiler tag, please. Then, those who wanna find it on their own can do so, ya know?

Anyways. Item one:
Hint:
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You always wanted him to do something with this room. This one, at least, is pretty safe to get.

Location:
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The game over room! Also, once you acquire the item, it creates a save immediately, so you don't need to get to the save point to still have it.


Far as I know, all the items past this point require a room that's actually pretty difficult and new. They're not easy to obtain... but then again, what in this game is easy?

Item two:
Hint:
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Head towards Mecha birdo, you'll see it.

Location:
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Once you get to the moon revealing the path to mecha birdo, jump to the area past it before you fall. You'll find your bounty here.


Item 3:
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It involves couches.

Location:
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Take the path after Mother Brain towards the teleporter to the mine cart ride. On your way there, after the snakey appearing brick room, you'll get to a set of wall jumps and spikes and moving platforms.. and couches. Hold jump while being propelled up and you'll be propelled even higher, into a new room containing your bounty. This will take some difficult timing, but it is indeed possible.


I don't have item 4-6 yet. I'm looking for hints to their general areas, so I know where to look. Actually locating them I doubt will be hard once I know where I'm supposed to look. I did a quick run through of the game. I checked the mine cart ride and the labyrinth, but found nothing. Checked /every/ exit, too. Far as I can gather, the other 3 are probably in the main section of the game. Where, however, I don't know. Just hope it's not in an area you can only access before beating the bosses, like the Metroid area or Castlevania area.

EDIT:

All 6 items have been found! Remaining 3 as follows.

Item 4:
Hint:
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You'll need to start a new game to get this one, because it's in an area that seals after beating the boss. Don't worry, items are seperate saves which you gain credit for on all save files and even new games.

Location:
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There's really only two areas that seal. The one in question is the mother brain area. Get to the first room in this area, and then just wait for a minute or so. An enemy will pop out of the wall. Go through the area it came out of. This area is difficult, but possible. Shoot the enemies to freeze them in place to use them as platforms.


Item 5: This item, by the way, is glitched in older builds. Make sure you have the proper game if you want this item.
Hint:
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It involves falling ceilings and being underground

Location:
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It's in the kirby area, right after you get past the rolling spikes and are underground. DON'T SAVE at this part. Because when you reload, the walls will reform, and you'll have to restart the entire area to get to it again. You need to get past the rolling spikes and also get to the other side in one go.


Item 6:
Hint:
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It's hidden within the fortress of the guy, somewhere, you've already found the other 5, this is the only place left.

Location:
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Specifically, it's found right before the final tower of the guy. You'll notice some cracks in the wall on your way over. You need to get at them from the other side by falling down one of the falling blocks and jumping off at the right time. Simply get on your floating platform from there, and enjoy the eggplants.


And there we have it! Enjoy the hunt, or enjoy the platforming difficulty alone, your choice!
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Kayin on February 01, 2008, 05:00:16 am
I'll just say it comes down to one in almost each major area. So they're spread out.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: personaomega on February 01, 2008, 05:47:24 am
Ow. I just wasted my time in the kirby area. I thought to myself... "Kayin, you're probably a jerk. You probably made it so that the area the little rolling spikes open up right before Kraidgeif where an item was.". You know the area. The one that seals up after you reload. So you' have to redo that area each time in order to get to it.. and it's hard to get to it. But damnit if I didn't try. And I tried until I actually managed to get to the other side. And to my disappointment, you weren't as mean as I was expecting. Back to item searching... actually, no, to bed. Item searching tomorrow. Still hoping to find these before other people do. Or at least, before other people post about it.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Akutsi on February 01, 2008, 06:59:34 am
I found one at the metroid place. (sorry my english)

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After that invicible brick room at the metroid place wait some time and there will come some bug at wall go in that hole where the bug came and there will be 1 secret item (The hole is left side of room)
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Chris S. on February 01, 2008, 10:17:48 am
About #3, personaomega:
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I can't make the last wall-jump to the left side of the room.  I lose speed about halfway there and then fall into the spikes.  I've made the jump relatively high off that wall, and I still don't get close to the ledge.  Is this jump possible?  Is there some trick to it?


Edit: damn forgot spoiler tag

Edit again: nevermind:
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I just magically double-jumped after a wall-jump, which is something I didn't think was possible and had even tried to do here a few times without any success.  So, ignore this.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Youesded on February 01, 2008, 11:18:43 am
I found one at the metroid place. (sorry my english)

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After that invicible brick room at the metroid place wait some time and there will come some bug at wall go in that hole where the bug came and there will be 1 secret item (The hole is left side of room)



But it's impossible to go to the metroid place after you beat mother brain.
The path seals up.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Chris S. on February 01, 2008, 02:01:22 pm
#5:

Hint:
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One of the former The Guy's is hiding something.


Location:
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Ryu Hayabasa's protrait in the Fortress of The Guy.  There's a cracked section in the lower right.  Jump into from the next screen over and you'll find a moving platform.  Step on the block keeping it in to release it and ride it under The Bridge of The Guy to the right.  Jump before it hits the other wall to reach the unreachable save point and the next secret room.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Akutsi on February 01, 2008, 02:02:54 pm
I found one at the metroid place. (sorry my english)

After that invicible brick room at the metroid place wait some time and there will come some bug at wall go in that hole where the bug came and there will be 1 secret item (The hole is left side of room)



But it's impossible to go to the metroid place after you beat mother brain.
The path seals up.

Start another save. Items comes every save what you make.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: personaomega on February 01, 2008, 02:06:39 pm
About #3, personaomega:
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I can't make the last wall-jump to the left side of the room.  I lose speed about halfway there and then fall into the spikes.  I've made the jump relatively high off that wall, and I still don't get close to the ledge.  Is this jump possible?  Is there some trick to it?


Edit: damn forgot spoiler tag

Edit again: nevermind:
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I just magically double-jumped after a wall-jump, which is something I didn't think was possible and had even tried to do here a few times without any success.  So, ignore this.


Actually, there is a method to it, if you were curious. As a note, you can double jump after a wall jump provided you hadn't beforehand. Holding onto a wall doesn't count as a ground, so your double jump counter won't reset.

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You just need to single jump up to the first booster platform, then kinda manuever your way up so that you get high enough, then simply double jump at the end of your final booster platform.


And I've found the 4th item. Ya.. Though I do appreciate the difficulty, Kayin, the metroid room /does/ seal. You've gotta make a new game in order to get the item, which at least means it's possible. I have a suggestion! Once you beat the guy, unlock all the bosses again, but include a hotkey to pass them! That way, if you wanna skip 'em, you can, and if you wanna re-fight them or explore there area, you can!
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Chris S. on February 01, 2008, 02:23:08 pm
[What was said in the last post]

Oh ... I was just assuming that the keypresses were not being registered every so often, or there was some sweet spot in the jump, or whatever.  That's actually pretty intuitive and I should have known, heh.

I agree about Tourian.  Maybe just unseal everything after beating The Guy and let the players free roam.  You can press backspace to get to the "Trophy Room" right?  I can't seem to get the ending to work, so I don't know.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Kayin on February 01, 2008, 02:29:13 pm
Sealing makes you have to be more clever. :D
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Dagnarok on February 01, 2008, 03:11:24 pm
Kayin knows what "clever" means??

Oh God we're all gonna die!!!

*needs to play IWBTG since he hasn't in so long!!*
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: finale on February 01, 2008, 03:40:17 pm
Dammit, I was happy having finally beaten it on Med. Now I have to start into the madness all over again.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Snakeman on February 01, 2008, 06:03:21 pm
Actually I think other save files affect what items you had.

I know this because after I got the one item from the
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game over room

I went on my old file (that was at the room of Divine Transportation) and there it was.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Youesded on February 01, 2008, 06:15:59 pm
HEY KAYIN HOW ABOUT A HINT ON THE LAST ITEM

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I've got the one from the guy, the metroid place, ghouls n goblins, game over room, and the tower (couch jumping)
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Getsuga999tenshou on February 01, 2008, 11:45:54 pm
SO how do iget these magical items theyre in the new release rite? i am using my new release and dont see any of these things!
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: dsk on February 01, 2008, 11:54:16 pm
That's why they're called "secret"
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: TheGoemon on February 01, 2008, 11:55:37 pm
They are scattered throughout the areas of the game, you have to be a little clever for some of them. Just any area that looks like it could continue on, give it a shot, and you might stumble yourself into an extra room with one of the items =)

The rooms they are in however...are pretty cruel haha.


I have 5 now..and I have had no luck finding number 6 so far.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Ghost on February 02, 2008, 01:57:39 am
To be frank, I think most of the people are lost for the last item.

I can't think of anything in the Kirby, Megaman, or Castlevania areas.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: TheGoemon on February 02, 2008, 02:01:42 am
I'm gonna put my theory for the last item in a spoiler tag just in case it's right.
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It might have something to do with the boss rush mode, check out when you finish, it says "Not fast enough, press F2 to try again"  it's not confirmed yet but i'm thinking shoot for under 10 minutes and minimize deaths.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: personaomega on February 02, 2008, 03:22:50 am
By the way, I already checked this area. It is, in fact, possible to get here, though it's somewhat hard to do. (hah). But there's no item. Why is there no item here, Kayin? You're mean enough to put it here. But it's not here. I feel cheated. ;.;
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Akutsi on February 02, 2008, 03:25:02 am
i have now Item 1,2,3,4,6 so 5 is missing.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Punchline on February 02, 2008, 03:42:53 am
What exactaly do you get for getting all the items?
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: xXBLOODXx on February 02, 2008, 03:43:37 am
Damnit Kayin...  If the item really is in Boss Rush, you cannot expect people to defeat all the bosses much faster than 30min.  You have the default best record at 30min, so if it really does give you a secret item, wouldn't it make sense for the game to give you the item if you beat the default record...?


( Only reason I'm agitated is because I got 28:11 )
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: MaxX on February 02, 2008, 03:51:15 am
You said the same thing twice.

"you cannot expect people to defeat all the bosses faster than 30min"

"You have the default best record at 30min, so if it really does give you a secret item, wouldn't it make sense for the game to give you the item if you beat the default record"

Yes, it does make sense for them to get the item if they beat the default record....which is 30mins....so why can't kayin expect people to defeat the bosses within 30......my head's going to explode.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: xXBLOODXx on February 02, 2008, 11:17:06 am
You said the same thing twice.

"you cannot expect people to defeat all the bosses faster than 30min"

"You have the default best record at 30min, so if it really does give you a secret item, wouldn't it make sense for the game to give you the item if you beat the default record"

Yes, it does make sense for them to get the item if they beat the default record....which is 30mins....so why can't kayin expect people to defeat the bosses within 30......my head's going to explode.

Meh, it was 2A.M. when I typed that.  I forgot to put "...defeat all the bosses much faster than 30min...".
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: TheGoemon on February 02, 2008, 02:29:00 pm
you can easily beat the whole group under 10 minutes if you're good...and given his evil intentions on every other part of the game....would it really surprise you :P
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: dsk on February 02, 2008, 03:14:33 pm
Someone already did with 10:47 with one death. Zero deaths is possible sub-10.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Snakeman on February 02, 2008, 06:08:33 pm
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I'll just say it comes down to one in almost each major area. So they're spread out.

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If that's the case, then theres:
1. Beginning world
2. The Guy's Palace
3. Tourian
4. Guy Industries Tower
5. Ghosts n Goblins segment.

So that would be the 6th would have to be in the greenland before Kraidgief, the Castlevania segment, or the Factory. But so far I've looked in all of those places and found nothing. <___<
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: SmashFiles on February 02, 2008, 09:14:08 pm
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(http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd297/Pivot7474/th_clip0065.jpg) (http://s226.photobucket.com/albums/dd297/Pivot7474/?action=view&current=clip0065.flv)


IS this the right spot for number 3?
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Getsuga999tenshou on February 02, 2008, 09:17:41 pm
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(http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd297/Pivot7474/th_clip0065.jpg) (http://s226.photobucket.com/albums/dd297/Pivot7474/?action=view&current=clip0065.flv)


IS this the right spot for number 3?

nope
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: SmashFiles on February 02, 2008, 10:09:22 pm
(http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd297/Pivot7474/th_clip0065.jpg) (http://s226.photobucket.com/albums/dd297/Pivot7474/?action=view&current=clip0065.flv)


IS this the right spot for number 3?

nope
is the one before that the right one?
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: SilentLoner on February 02, 2008, 10:24:27 pm
No, you need to go a bit further.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: personaomega on February 03, 2008, 04:04:28 am
Kayin: I've looked at a map several times now to deduce where the last item could be, but so far, nothing's come of it. I'm almost entirely certain that it's hidden somewhere in the Kirby area, but the only area I've managed to find that could be a secret area doesn't seem to want to let me through. I want, badly, to find it on my own, but the frantic search has quickly devolved into frustrated musings. Is there any way I could get a hint as to item number 5's location? I'd be happy with "You're on the right track in the Kirby area", if that's true. Or I'd like to be franticly searching in the right area, you know?
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: JamesB on February 03, 2008, 04:52:21 am
I'm in the same situation as just about everybody else right now:  I've got five of the six secret items and can't find the last one.  I've tried looking just about everywhere, seeing if I could notice any subtle graphical changes between this version and prior ones to deduce where that last item could be.

I'm currently exploring Kirby's area and thought I had it, but unfortunately didn't.  Then I checked this thread and saw that a lot of different people tried what I did.  Agh.  It seemed logical enough to put one there.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Kayin on February 03, 2008, 05:11:45 am
Kirby area is right. It is probably where you think it is. Now the trick is actually getting there.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: WinDEU on February 03, 2008, 09:46:58 am
If you're talking about...

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the area right after the race, where the save point is and you can just barely jump over the pit to where the spike vehicle destroys the right wall, then I've already been there. I've completely hugged the wall to see if you have to jump to get into a room, but with no luck.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Zekyr on February 03, 2008, 09:48:56 am
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How did you even get over there? I've tried about 30 times (this is where I thought it would be too) and the falling ceiling kills me every single try.

edit: nevermind, figured that part out. but yeah, nothing over there.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Fred on February 03, 2008, 09:52:42 am
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I tried that too... i was dead certain i found where it was 'til i hit the other side and nothing happened. xD
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: kenman on February 03, 2008, 10:26:03 am
*cough*

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(http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/4912/item5mf9.jpg)
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: dsk on February 03, 2008, 10:35:36 am
Congratulations!

YOU ARE FAG!

:D
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Akutsi on February 03, 2008, 10:47:45 am
*cough*

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(http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/4912/item5mf9.jpg)

How?!?
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: UltraJMan on February 03, 2008, 10:51:50 am
*cough*

(http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/4912/item5mf9.jpg)

How?!?

I agree with this, I can see the hidden path upon reloading and whatnot but you can't stick to the wall, and apparantly beating the thing in the race and getting across the gap doesn't do it either...
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Zekyr on February 03, 2008, 11:05:43 am
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On the tower one, I know how to get there, I can for the life of me figure out how to save the double jump til the end. Every path I try is taking the jump (yellow dot) used up before I get to the final jump, and I can't see a way to get up to the last jump without it. Any help?

(http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/584/huhrv4.png)

Edit: AHA. I found it out. For anyone else confused, jump on the bottom of the first, to the bottom of the second, back and forth til you make it to the top right one, thus saving your double jump. Whee.


Oh god now I have to figure out the one right before birdo. No freaking clue even how to start with that spike in the way, not even gonna try for a few hours.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Akutsi on February 03, 2008, 11:13:29 am
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On the tower one, I know how to get there, I can for the life of me figure out how to save the double jump til the end. Every path I try is taking the jump (yellow dot) used up before I get to the final jump, and I can't see a way to get up to the last jump without it. Any help?

(http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/584/huhrv4.png)

Oh god and I have no idea on the one right before birdo. No freaking clue, not even gonna try it yet.

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http://img167.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ninsetehdnzh7.jpg (http://img167.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ninsetehdnzh7.jpg)
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Jboy on February 03, 2008, 11:18:40 am
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Zekyr: Single jump onto the bottom edge of platform 1, all the way on the right.  Fire off of there toward platform 2, the only one you can reach.  Jump right from platform 2 and catch your momentum in the air, you can just barely pull yourself back on the correct side of platform 1 without hitting the spike.  Do that and grab the top of it.  Immediately fire left onto platform 2 again, fire right onto platform 3 (the topmost one), fire again over and catch the other side of platform 2.  Now, you'll be way too high to make it so let yourself slide down a ways before firing into platform 4 (leftmost one), up onto platform 5, then blast your way over and while you still have the height to make it, use the double-jump to complete the section.  Then you get to deal with the turrets! ^^


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I'm buggered about this kirby thing, I'm currently standing next to the wall at the end of the race where I was SURE it would be and I can't get through.  I also can't jump up to the top of the hole, so I'm hoping this isn't another 5-block, pixel-perfect jump like I had to try about 100 times to make into the room before MechaBirdo.  In fact, I opened the forums just specifically to see if anyone had it figured out yet...
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: UltraJMan on February 03, 2008, 11:27:46 am
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Zekyr: Single jump onto the bottom edge of platform 1, all the way on the right.  Fire off of there toward platform 2, the only one you can reach.  Jump right from platform 2 and catch your momentum in the air, you can just barely pull yourself back on the correct side of platform 1 without hitting the spike.  Do that and grab the top of it.  Immediately fire left onto platform 2 again, fire right onto platform 3 (the topmost one), fire again over and catch the other side of platform 2.  Now, you'll be way too high to make it so let yourself slide down a ways before firing into platform 4 (leftmost one), up onto platform 5, then blast your way over and while you still have the height to make it, use the double-jump to complete the section.  Then you get to deal with the turrets! ^^


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I'm buggered about this kirby thing, I'm currently standing next to the wall at the end of the race where I was SURE it would be and I can't get through.  I also can't jump up to the top of the hole, so I'm hoping this isn't another 5-block, pixel-perfect jump like I had to try about 100 times to make into the room before MechaBirdo.  In fact, I opened the forums just specifically to see if anyone had it figured out yet...


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You're not the only one stumped by this damned Kirby one, I beat the thing in the race and that didn't work, I tried jumping up the hole, that didn't work. I'm just standing in that room stumped on what the hell to do...
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: dsk on February 03, 2008, 11:52:57 am
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I find people talking in spoilers funny :D
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Fred on February 03, 2008, 12:08:43 pm
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it is funny :D
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: SmashFiles on February 03, 2008, 12:14:52 pm
*cough*

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(http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/4912/item5mf9.jpg)


hmmm... that looks like a graphic change, its in the room, the room after the race... but how did you get there... O_O
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Snakeman on February 03, 2008, 02:51:23 pm
Hmmm, I think I know where it is, but I'm going to try it and see if it works. If it doesn't, then this just confuses me to no end.
EDIT: Yeah, it didn't work. This just confuses me greatly.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: TheGoemon on February 03, 2008, 03:10:57 pm
Haha..I got bored and figured i'd see if there was a change on medium- impossible at the room we're all stuck in... NOPE  : )...
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: SmashFiles on February 03, 2008, 03:52:00 pm
I dont think he really found it, i think he just MADE that picture. though im probably wrong.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Zekyr on February 03, 2008, 03:57:44 pm
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Zekyr: Single jump onto the bottom edge of platform 1, all the way on the right.  Fire off of there toward platform 2, the only one you can reach.  Jump right from platform 2 and catch your momentum in the air, you can just barely pull yourself back on the correct side of platform 1 without hitting the spike.  Do that and grab the top of it.  Immediately fire left onto platform 2 again, fire right onto platform 3 (the topmost one), fire again over and catch the other side of platform 2.  Now, you'll be way too high to make it so let yourself slide down a ways before firing into platform 4 (leftmost one), up onto platform 5, then blast your way over and while you still have the height to make it, use the double-jump to complete the section.  Then you get to deal with the turrets! ^^


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Yeah, I got lucky and figured the path out finally to get up there. The turrets were zero problems. If you just fall down holding right you pass by all of them right to the secret item, no need to time jumps or kill turrets or anything. While everyone else is busy trying to figure out how to get to the kirby room, I'm now attempting to figure out wtf I'm supposed to do in the one before birdo. That first spike stumps me. Am I supposed to fall off the platform and use double jump to get back on? Is that even humanly possible?
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: SmashFiles on February 03, 2008, 04:00:08 pm
Zekyr: Single jump onto the bottom edge of platform 1, all the way on the right.  Fire off of there toward platform 2, the only one you can reach.  Jump right from platform 2 and catch your momentum in the air, you can just barely pull yourself back on the correct side of platform 1 without hitting the spike.  Do that and grab the top of it.  Immediately fire left onto platform 2 again, fire right onto platform 3 (the topmost one), fire again over and catch the other side of platform 2.  Now, you'll be way too high to make it so let yourself slide down a ways before firing into platform 4 (leftmost one), up onto platform 5, then blast your way over and while you still have the height to make it, use the double-jump to complete the section.  Then you get to deal with the turrets! ^^


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Yeah, I got lucky and figured the path out finally to get up there. The turrets were zero problems. If you just fall down holding right you pass by all of them right to the secret item, no need to time jumps or kill turrets or anything. While everyone else is busy trying to figure out how to get to the kirby room, I'm now attempting to figure out wtf I'm supposed to do in the one before birdo. That first spike stumps me. Am I supposed to fall off the platform and use double jump to get back on? Is that even humanly possible?

Yes, it is.
But I must warn you.
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Watch out for falling bricks
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: syllogism on February 03, 2008, 04:12:07 pm
Actually that screenshot is legitimate, however I've no idea how you are supposed to get there. Personally I was playing on Very Hard , died in the tetris section (near the end, the next tile was going to be the Dr. mario pill) and somehow got transported into that room and into that specific spot. The tunnel above leads to the last save point before kraidgief, but you can't climb back up.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: SmashFiles on February 03, 2008, 04:13:40 pm
Actually that screenshot is legitimate, however I've no idea how you are supposed to get there. Personally I was playing on Very Hard , died in the tetris section (near the end, the next tile was going to be the Dr. mario pill) and somehow got transported into that room and into that specific spot. The tunnel above leads to the last save point before kraidgief, but you can't climb back up.

... i am going to try the tetris room, die on the next to last tile, and see if it works  :D

EDIT: Mind telling me where you were standin?
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: syllogism on February 03, 2008, 04:24:19 pm
Actually that screenshot is legitimate, however I've no idea how you are supposed to get there. Personally I was playing on Very Hard , died in the tetris section (near the end, the next tile was going to be the Dr. mario pill) and somehow got transported into that room and into that specific spot. The tunnel above leads to the last save point before kraidgief, but you can't climb back up.

... i am going to try the tetris room, die on the next to last tile, and see if it works  :D

EDIT: Mind telling me where you were standin?

I think I was trying to jump on the final L block, then some lines got destroyed and the next tile/block killed me, but I wasn't really paying attention.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Kyper on February 03, 2008, 04:43:35 pm
My magic 8 ball tells me that all signs point to yes this room...
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(http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/2079/hollowtopra1.png)
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Delvin on February 03, 2008, 04:51:59 pm
Yeah, that's what like everyone here has been trying to do. How did you get that returning passage visible by the way? And where did the spikes that are normally there disappear?

The problem is, this doesn't work. Maybe there's a glitch or something? Like the spikes are supposed to break the entrance wall in the next room but they don't. I've also been there and hugged every inch of the right-hand side passage after the spikewall smashed it to pieces.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: SmashFiles on February 03, 2008, 04:52:42 pm
My magic 8 ball tells me that all signs point to yes this room...
: show
(http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/2079/hollowtopra1.png)

Woah, howd that happen?
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: xXBLOODXx on February 03, 2008, 04:58:17 pm
*cough*

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(http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/4912/item5mf9.jpg)


T_T

Could you just tell us already?  Or at least send me a PM if you don't want to spoil it for everyone...
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Kyper on February 03, 2008, 05:00:22 pm
How did you get that returning passage visible by the way?

Heh, the game crashed as I entered the room. But for some reason, it kindly revealed the fake bricks to me.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: SmashFiles on February 03, 2008, 05:01:35 pm
*cough*

(http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/4912/item5mf9.jpg)


T_T

Could you just tell us already?  Or at least send me a PM if you don't want to spoil it for everyone...
It was a glitch, the way he got there, was dieing a specific way in the tetris room, involoving the last block before the megavitamin.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: xXBLOODXx on February 03, 2008, 05:04:49 pm
*cough*

(http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/4912/item5mf9.jpg)


T_T

Could you just tell us already?  Or at least send me a PM if you don't want to spoil it for everyone...
It was a glitch, the way he got there, was dieing a specific way in the tetris room, involoving the last block before the megavitamin.

The person who glitched isn't the same person who I quoted...
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: SmashFiles on February 03, 2008, 05:05:39 pm
*cough*

(http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/4912/item5mf9.jpg)


T_T

Could you just tell us already?  Or at least send me a PM if you don't want to spoil it for everyone...
It was a glitch, the way he got there, was dieing a specific way in the tetris room, involoving the last block before the megavitamin.

The person who glitched isn't the same person who I quoted...
But they both accessed the same glitch, because they both ended up in the same place.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: xXBLOODXx on February 03, 2008, 05:07:56 pm
*cough*

(http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/4912/item5mf9.jpg)


T_T

Could you just tell us already?  Or at least send me a PM if you don't want to spoil it for everyone...
It was a glitch, the way he got there, was dieing a specific way in the tetris room, involoving the last block before the megavitamin.

The person who glitched isn't the same person who I quoted...
But they both accessed the same glitch, because they both ended up in the same place.

What the hell?  Why do you think the other person glitched?  It could just be coincidence that the screenshot was taken near the spot the glitch occured.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: SmashFiles on February 03, 2008, 05:10:20 pm
*cough*

(http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/4912/item5mf9.jpg)


T_T

Could you just tell us already?  Or at least send me a PM if you don't want to spoil it for everyone...
It was a glitch, the way he got there, was dieing a specific way in the tetris room, involoving the last block before the megavitamin.

The person who glitched isn't the same person who I quoted...
But they both accessed the same glitch, because they both ended up in the same place.

What the hell?  Why do you think the other person glitched?  It could just be coincidence that the screenshot was taken near the spot the glitch occured.
They were in the same place, both in the impossible part, because when you really get there there are a few more platforms and walljumps. In that version, they were missing some stuff.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: xXBLOODXx on February 03, 2008, 05:14:22 pm
*cough*

(http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/4912/item5mf9.jpg)


T_T

Could you just tell us already?  Or at least send me a PM if you don't want to spoil it for everyone...
It was a glitch, the way he got there, was dieing a specific way in the tetris room, involoving the last block before the megavitamin.

The person who glitched isn't the same person who I quoted...
But they both accessed the same glitch, because they both ended up in the same place.

What the hell?  Why do you think the other person glitched?  It could just be coincidence that the screenshot was taken near the spot the glitch occured.
They were in the same place, both in the impossible part, because when you really get there there are a few more platforms and walljumps. In that version, they were missing some stuff.
What impossible part?  How do you know it wasn't just coincidence?  And if you mean "impossible" because the wall is sealed on the left side, that just means he saved and restarted which cased the wall to go back to how it is supposed to be.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: SmashFiles on February 03, 2008, 05:16:00 pm
*cough*

(http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/4912/item5mf9.jpg)


T_T

Could you just tell us already?  Or at least send me a PM if you don't want to spoil it for everyone...
It was a glitch, the way he got there, was dieing a specific way in the tetris room, involoving the last block before the megavitamin.

The person who glitched isn't the same person who I quoted...
But they both accessed the same glitch, because they both ended up in the same place.

What the hell?  Why do you think the other person glitched?  It could just be coincidence that the screenshot was taken near the spot the glitch occured.
They were in the same place, both in the impossible part, because when you really get there there are a few more platforms and walljumps. In that version, they were missing some stuff.
What impossible part?  How do you know it wasn't just coincidence?  And if you mean "impossible" because the wall is sealed on the left side, that just means he saved and restarted which cased the wall to go back to how it is supposed to be.
no no, if you look at it, than youll see, its impossible to get where they are, with the little platforms that are on the right side. you would have to super mega jump to get there THATS why its impossible.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: xXBLOODXx on February 03, 2008, 05:20:05 pm
*cough*

(http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/4912/item5mf9.jpg)


T_T

Could you just tell us already?  Or at least send me a PM if you don't want to spoil it for everyone...
It was a glitch, the way he got there, was dieing a specific way in the tetris room, involoving the last block before the megavitamin.

The person who glitched isn't the same person who I quoted...
But they both accessed the same glitch, because they both ended up in the same place.

What the hell?  Why do you think the other person glitched?  It could just be coincidence that the screenshot was taken near the spot the glitch occured.
They were in the same place, both in the impossible part, because when you really get there there are a few more platforms and walljumps. In that version, they were missing some stuff.
What impossible part?  How do you know it wasn't just coincidence?  And if you mean "impossible" because the wall is sealed on the left side, that just means he saved and restarted which cased the wall to go back to how it is supposed to be.
no no, if you look at it, than youll see, its impossible to get where they are, with the little platforms that are on the right side. you would have to super mega jump to get there THATS why its impossible.
No... those platforms would be moving up and down... similar to this:
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(http://i25.tinypic.com/eg1dgm.jpg)
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Kenny-- on February 03, 2008, 05:20:48 pm
But they both accessed the same glitch, because they both ended up in the same place.

Confirmed.
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The glitch in the Tetris room does take you exactly on the spot where the person was standing on the screenshot. I just got the item #5 without saving on v.hard and died on the Tetris room.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: SmashFiles on February 03, 2008, 05:21:41 pm
But they both accessed the same glitch, because they both ended up in the same place.

Confirmed.
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The glitch in the Tetris room does take you exactly on the spot where the person was standing on the screenshot. I just got the item #5 without saving on v.hard and died on the Tetris room.

where in the tetris room
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Kitty on February 03, 2008, 05:25:54 pm
DON'T QUOTE LIKE 10 POSTS.
SERIOUSLY.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: xXBLOODXx on February 03, 2008, 05:27:06 pm
omg... the tetris thing did work...

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(http://i26.tinypic.com/a8byf.jpg)
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Kenny-- on February 03, 2008, 05:27:58 pm
But they both accessed the same glitch, because they both ended up in the same place.

Confirmed.
The glitch in the Tetris room does take you exactly on the spot where the person was standing on the screenshot. I just got the item #5 without saving on v.hard and died on the Tetris room.

where in the tetris room

Item #5: (The glitched way)

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Begin a new game on any difficulty level (except on Impossible since the R wont work.). Don't save at any point and die at any point of the Tetris room.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: finale on February 03, 2008, 05:38:56 pm
Idea: how about getting into the exit of the Tetris room, then waiting for the pill to fall?
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: xXBLOODXx on February 03, 2008, 05:41:48 pm
Idea: how about getting into the exit of the Tetris room, then waiting for the pill to fall?

That doesn't do anything.  I let it fall every time and nothing special happens.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Ghost on February 03, 2008, 05:48:49 pm
Besides that glitch, I think another glitch is the fact that trying to go the actual way doesn't work.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: TheGoemon on February 03, 2008, 06:32:21 pm
Well, it makes me happy that my initial assumption about it being in the room after the spike wall\race was correct, but I still didn't like having to use a glitch to get in lol.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: SmashFiles on February 03, 2008, 06:59:04 pm
Is there any way to do it other than making a new game?
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: xXBLOODXx on February 03, 2008, 09:05:57 pm
To clear any confusion about how to get item #5, I made a video showing how to do it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkgQOXjYuWA

EDIT:

This is NOT showing the real way.  Just the glitch way.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: SmashFiles on February 03, 2008, 09:10:30 pm
Okay, now im completely stumped, i finally did what i was trying to do, go all the way from the beggining, to the other side of the room after the race. Another thing, if your standing on the ledge where the save is, if you jump up and a little to the right, all the way to the ceiling, you go through it, but it doesnt do anything. So thats just the way out... no help


P.S. I also wish Kayin would come and tell us if that glitch is the actual way to do it, or if it really is glitched.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: kenman on February 03, 2008, 10:54:57 pm
I really doubt Kayin intended people to just teleport right next to the item instead of going through the actual level before it.

It makes more sense to intend it like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j89QGng8-g4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j89QGng8-g4)
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: SmashFiles on February 03, 2008, 11:12:47 pm
I really doubt Kayin intended people to just teleport right next to the item instead of going through the actual level before it.

It makes more sense to intend it like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j89QGng8-g4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j89QGng8-g4)
Could you tell us how you got there?
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: UltraJMan on February 03, 2008, 11:37:17 pm
Guys, we were doing it right about beating the thing in the race... problem is the wall was bugged, Kayin fixed it though... so go get the new update!
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: xXBLOODXx on February 03, 2008, 11:53:30 pm
How is this new mode going to work, Kayin?

Is it just going to be a file we add and it scans to see if you have all the item files?

Or is it going to be in a completely new version of the game?  That being said, would we have to get all the items again, or would we just be able to drag & drop the little item-#.save files?
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Chris S. on February 04, 2008, 12:04:58 am
Well, Kayin's been adding on to the game by simply providing up-to-date executables, more or less.  I think it's possible that the "new mode" will simply be another extension, much like the 6 hidden items were just another addition to IWBTG proper.  Just download a new IWBTG*.exe, put it in the directory with your old save folder (provided it's compatible; otherwise, start over), and continue from there.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: HomicidalBaby on February 04, 2008, 12:58:12 am
I need help for an item

location
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metroid place, after invisible blocks


problem
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i got into the room but how do you get across the lava??
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: finale on February 04, 2008, 01:24:49 am
Shooting the hanging enemies before they explode(and the crawling one as well) will freeze them, letting you use them as platforms.

So, it looks like we've made some kind of scary gun?
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: personaomega on February 04, 2008, 01:42:55 am
I'm gonna edit the first post to have info on all of the items, now. Thanks for all the help in finding them! I'm happy to have gotten 4 of them on my own, and 1 with only a small hint. (I consider the kirby one on my own, because I only didn't find it before because it was glitched)
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Rad on February 04, 2008, 01:53:39 am
which version are these on?
because ive looked on one of the versions and i didnt find squat.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: personaomega on February 04, 2008, 02:00:32 am
which version are these on?
because ive looked on one of the versions and i didnt find squat.

They're on ver 1.0.0. Except for item 5, which is on B2. Look at the announcements forum.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: SmashFiles on February 04, 2008, 08:30:35 am
Shooting the hanging enemies before they explode(and the crawling one as well) will freeze them, letting you use them as platforms.

So, it looks like we've made some kind of scary gun?
Did your items, actualy mold together?
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: finale on February 04, 2008, 10:27:15 am
No, but, I mean, look at them- barrel, magazine, sight- they're parts of a gun.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Snakeman on February 04, 2008, 04:12:20 pm
Looks like a large rifle to me, guys. One larger than the Gun Pass, so this new mode will be epic.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Jboy on February 05, 2008, 06:23:22 am
So far I see a magazine, a grip, a scope, a barrel, something that looks like it fell off Megaman's hand, and a stock...

3 to 1 says you don't actually get to USE the new weapon in the slightest, except maybe to shoot down a wall after which it is stored for safekeeping somewhere far away where you never get to see it again.  Can't possibly expect the game to GIVE you anything, honestly?   :kid:

Very amusing, definitely like the new rooms.  The Ghosts'n'Goblins room is by far the most hair-rippingly difficult, can't wait to see what it's leading up to  :D
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Chris S. on February 05, 2008, 10:39:33 am
something that looks like it fell off Megaman's hand...

I say its a giant-cherry launcher.  It's about time The Kid got his chance to rain deliciously fruity terror on ... er ... spikes?  Yeah, the gun upgrade seems odd, since there's not much to shoot besides bosses, turrets, and saves.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: finale on February 05, 2008, 12:06:22 pm
Maybe it shoots savepoints?
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: QBall on February 05, 2008, 12:16:10 pm
I can't imagine it being used in game, it would be unfair to people new to IWBTG2 to make them play the first one, plus since when does this game ever get easy? Perhaps if you get all the items, it makes the second game HARDER, ie: the first boss steals your gun and uses it on you (for veterans only!) :D

Anyways, I can't find the "secret item" before mecha birdo, that cliff is too high. Or am I looking wrong?
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Dagnarok on February 05, 2008, 12:30:20 pm
If it's going to do anything, it'll shoot giant bullets (like the ones from the Guy fight), but they'll have a pink bow on em. :P
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Fred on February 05, 2008, 03:06:58 pm
Anyways, I can't find the "secret item" before mecha birdo, that cliff is too high. Or am I looking wrong?

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No, that is the correct place. Just jump before the moon destroys the platform. :D
Oh, and it's possible to save once you have reached the cliff. You'll need it...


Don't know if it was necessary to 'spoiler' it, but anyway :D
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Zekyr on February 05, 2008, 06:05:24 pm
Yeah, I'm gonna kill someone soon if I can't get that room done. I've gotten the other 5, I just can't even make it past the first spike. Is there a video of this or is it just inhuman timing? I know there's even more waiting to bone me in the room but I haven't even managed to get past that first spike and to be honest I'm afraid to, after 300 deaths I think I'll kill myself if I die after I get past it. Which I will.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Chris S. on February 05, 2008, 06:41:33 pm
I can't imagine it being used in game, it would be unfair to people new to IWBTG2 to make them play the first one, plus since when does this game ever get easy? Perhaps if you get all the items, it makes the second game HARDER, ie: the first boss steals your gun and uses it on you (for veterans only!) :D

If IWBTG was a man, and he looked up the word "fair" in the dictionary, he would find nothing between "faint" and "fairy," both of which he would use often when describing his prey.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Fred on February 06, 2008, 01:03:37 pm
Nah, you probably can't use it. It probably won't even shoot bullets, if it even shoots. It is more likely that it does something completely random and out of place thing for a cool looking gun. ;D

Like... uhh... Throwing a spike at a cherry to create a secret portal? ...Nah... i just suck at making things up, i'll be quiet now. :-X
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: dsk on February 06, 2008, 01:11:42 pm
Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy anyone?
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Yonin on February 06, 2008, 04:27:06 pm
I can't find the metriod one, help please :-[
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: N-Mare on February 06, 2008, 06:18:11 pm
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It's were you drop down right after the room with the invisible blocks. If you wait for a couple of seconds you'll see a enemy crawling out of the wall, you should go in there and the rest is up to you. Just to let you know, you can't get to the secret item if it's your second playtrough. 


Yeah, I've finally gotten them al =D
I'm pretty excited what this will unlock.
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It would be awesome if you could use the gun (At least..I guess it's a gun.) in a new game mode
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Punchline on February 06, 2008, 09:37:19 pm
The mini-spike cherry gun.


My god we should have known.

AND WHAT IF WE SHOOT IT


KILL OURSELVES?!
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: SmashFiles on February 06, 2008, 09:43:05 pm
The mini-spike cherry gun.


My god we should have known.

AND WHAT IF WE SHOOT IT


KILL OURSELVES?!
That would almost be as hilarious as
The Kid:
Die Monste... WHOZAWHAT!
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: smfx on February 07, 2008, 06:17:34 pm
I know I am kinda bragging, but I got the Metriod one! I also took a screen shot to show my strategy on it, anyone do it a different way? (yes it is on medium, just cause I already beat the game on hard and wanted to get there quickly)
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(http://i25.tinypic.com/2hn4djk.jpg)
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: SmashFiles on February 07, 2008, 06:37:48 pm
I know I am kinda bragging, but I got the Metriod one! I also took a screen shot to show my strategy on it, anyone do it a different way? (yes it is on medium, just cause I already beat the game on hard and wanted to get there quickly)
: show
(http://i25.tinypic.com/2hn4djk.jpg)

... howd you get them to stop that far away!?
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: smfx on February 07, 2008, 07:33:00 pm
Far away from what? My method was to let the first one fall, shoot it. Then I jump, trigger the second, let it fall, then double jump and shoot it. I then get on that, jump, push hard to the left, then double, shot, and turn around all in one motion pretty much, and you just barely make it back on the ledge(hopefully the little guy there doesn't kill ya.) Then jump shoot the last guy, double jump back to third, then on him, then jump to ledge, get the item, and have a sexy party. *dances with girls running around*
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Delvin on February 08, 2008, 02:55:59 pm
I could never shoot the last bat near the top of the room, so I found another approach.

Beginning was similar but then I jumped to the bottom left corner with the last bat following. A quick turn and a shot and I could climb the left edge to the item.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: shadebaramos on February 09, 2008, 10:28:31 am
is it possible to share secret items like you share saves  like when you get a item in the save file theres item1 and lotsa numbers is it possible to share items?
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Kenny-- on February 09, 2008, 01:28:19 pm
is it possible to share secret items like you share saves  like when you get a item in the save file theres item1 and lotsa numbers is it possible to share items?

Yea, you can just make the item files too if you know the names. The game detects an empty file named Item*-****.save as an item on the game as long as it has the right name.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: zuzufan09 on February 10, 2008, 01:41:28 am
How do I do the jumping to get item#3?

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I don't know if this should even be in spoiler but oh well.  I can get to the boost platforms and I see people going on the first one, then jumping back off and then in mid-air turning back and grabbing on to the top of the platform.  Now when I try it I just go flying to the second one and when I try to do it on that one I go into the spike.  So how am I supposed to get higher onto the platforms that I am already on?
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Chris S. on February 12, 2008, 11:32:53 am
I jump to the first wall, launch to the second one, then launch back in the direction of the first one.  At that point, I can stop myself in midair and fall down to grab the top of the first wall.  No turning around is necessary.  From there, you can wall jump all the way up to the third no problem, and so on...
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: smfx on February 18, 2008, 10:42:48 pm
Finally all done, till next version of course ;D
(http://i31.tinypic.com/16ld4lk.jpg)
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: jpatt on February 29, 2008, 02:02:48 pm
ive been searching for the secret items for a while now. i got to the game over room and there was nothing there. also i got to the ghost and goblins one or whatever and there was nothing there.  i am running the beta version. ive tried it on medium hard and very hard...are the secret items only on a new version or something?
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: SilentLoner on February 29, 2008, 03:44:33 pm
Do you have Version 1.0.0 Revision B2.4? If not, try downloading that. I think they may appear in one of the earlier versions, but there is a glitch in the older version that prevents you from reaching one of the secret items through normal means.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: 7inchflame on March 01, 2008, 09:50:42 pm
i remember that in the older versions the game over room was just blank so yah download a newer version
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: YouKnowWho on March 03, 2008, 11:15:58 pm
Alright, I'm having a little bit of trouble getting item number five.  I just need to get into the room that it's in.  I want to do it without using that silly glitch as well.

So after the spike-wall race you make it into Kraidgief's lair, and you don't hit the save.  The spike-wall breaks the wall at the other side of the room, but then what?  Do I have to miraculously get over there?  I've tried to, but the ceiling crashes onto me.  If someone could explain, I would greatly appreciate it.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: 4narchi5t on March 03, 2008, 11:56:02 pm
This helped me get there: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJ7VnP-kjr8&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJ7VnP-kjr8&feature=related)

3:45 is when he gets to #5. Unfortunately for me there's no save point there if you're playing on very hard.

It helps to practice jumping over the spikes on a different save.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: YouKnowWho on March 04, 2008, 01:16:23 am
This helped me get there: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJ7VnP-kjr8&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJ7VnP-kjr8&feature=related)

3:45 is when he gets to #5. Unfortunately for me there's no save point there if you're playing on very hard.

It helps to practice jumping over the spikes on a different save.

Aha, thanks a lot!  I was thinking about trying to do that too, and now that's just confirmed the technique.  Thanks again!  :D

EDIT: Another question:  is there a way other than going through the entire palace of the guy to get to the last item?  I'm inside  the palace, but I really don't want to go through it again  :'(
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Kitty on March 04, 2008, 07:31:26 am
You've gotta do it again, sorry.

On the plus side, you should be good at it by now =P
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Dagnarok on March 04, 2008, 10:31:29 am
Said the Cat in the Hat. :P
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: YouKnowWho on March 04, 2008, 06:35:33 pm
You've gotta do it again, sorry.

On the plus side, you should be good at it by now =P

Ah well, it gives me something to do, I suppose.   ::)

Thanks for the help. :D
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: TheThought on March 07, 2008, 04:54:56 pm
Do I need to go through the entire Path to the Guy to before the Final Tower of the Guy again just to get the final item?

Since I beat the game before the items were implemented.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Tenebrais on March 07, 2008, 05:40:05 pm
Yes, you do.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: kenny pearce on April 03, 2008, 11:24:27 pm
wat r the tasks or rooms u must do to get some of these items???? ???  :spikes: :spikes: :spikes: :spikes: :spikes: :spikes: :spikes: :spikes: :spikes: :fruit: :fruit: :fruit: :fruit: :kid: :kid: :kid: :kid: :kid: :kid: :kid: :kid: :kid:
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: dsk on April 04, 2008, 05:44:17 am
Read the thread much?
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: DaGuy on April 04, 2008, 07:05:17 pm
can anybody put together the items to make a gun? (just the images, not actually in the game) mine is below
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Yule on April 04, 2008, 07:06:31 pm
Lol, DaGuy that looks like a demented bazooka.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Rad on April 04, 2008, 07:10:40 pm
there's actually a thread about making somethign out of the items.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Yule on April 04, 2008, 07:14:32 pm
In the General forum.
Might be on the second page though.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Dagnarok on April 04, 2008, 07:16:33 pm
Nope (http://kayin.pyoko.org/iwbtg/forums/index.php?topic=771.0) :P
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: dsk on April 04, 2008, 07:19:08 pm
<3 Rag.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: YouKnowWho on April 04, 2008, 07:31:48 pm
Wild thread appears!

http://kayin.pyoko.org/iwbtg/forums/index.php?topic=771.0

Have fun. ::)
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Dagnarok on April 04, 2008, 07:33:02 pm
Copycat. :P
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: andrupchik on May 01, 2008, 06:37:18 pm
: show
Zekyr: Single jump onto the bottom edge of platform 1, all the way on the right.  Fire off of there toward platform 2, the only one you can reach.  Jump right from platform 2 and catch your momentum in the air, you can just barely pull yourself back on the correct side of platform 1 without hitting the spike.  Do that and grab the top of it.  Immediately fire left onto platform 2 again, fire right onto platform 3 (the topmost one), fire again over and catch the other side of platform 2.  Now, you'll be way too high to make it so let yourself slide down a ways before firing into platform 4 (leftmost one), up onto platform 5, then blast your way over and while you still have the height to make it, use the double-jump to complete the section.  Then you get to deal with the turrets! ^^


Also:
: show
I'm buggered about this kirby thing, I'm currently standing next to the wall at the end of the race where I was SURE it would be and I can't get through.  I also can't jump up to the top of the hole, so I'm hoping this isn't another 5-block, pixel-perfect jump like I had to try about 100 times to make into the room before MechaBirdo.  In fact, I opened the forums just specifically to see if anyone had it figured out yet...


What the hell??? Everybody explains it as if it were so simple, but the double jump NEVER works for me in this instance! I noticed several instances in the game where the double jump simply will not work, like the Ryu part (I actually have to stop in mid air, turn around, and THEN jump again for it to actually register) and the invisible block room two screens behind the Game Over room (on the first block, I have to stop, get on the VERY edge, and pray that it will work!). Why is it so anal for me? Every other secret item was pretty easy for me to get. And I've been using only one jump to get on the sticky wall, so I'm pretty sure that I'm doing it exactly as you instructed. I wish I knew how to make a video to show you.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: andrupchik on May 01, 2008, 06:48:07 pm
: show
On the tower one, I know how to get there, I can for the life of me figure out how to save the double jump til the end. Every path I try is taking the jump (yellow dot) used up before I get to the final jump, and I can't see a way to get up to the last jump without it. Any help?

(http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/584/huhrv4.png)

Edit: AHA. I found it out. For anyone else confused, jump on the bottom of the first, to the bottom of the second, back and forth til you make it to the top right one, thus saving your double jump. Whee.


Oh god now I have to figure out the one right before birdo. No freaking clue even how to start with that spike in the way, not even gonna try for a few hours.

Sorry for the double post, but I should have quoted this post in the first place. See that yellow dot to the left that indicates the post-sticky-wall double jump? Well, I can't even do that! I've tried it a billion times, but it's impossible for me to double jump after a sticky wall, and I'm only using one jump to get to it! Why?


EDIT: Okay, I just figured out why it doesn't work. I use a joypad, and when I switched it to keyboard, it worked!!! Only problem is that now it's impossible because I can't control the kid worth shit using the keyboard (how the hell do you guys do it?). Is there any way that I can somehow use the joypad without this retarded problem??

EDIT AGAIN: I just jumped the whole way on this keyboard (god-damn hard), but the double jump didn't work again on the last part. It only seems to work once in a while when I test it on the first sticky wall. So unfair..
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Supa on May 01, 2008, 07:26:40 pm
You have to save the second jump until the last part. And the bump is well...not so good.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Kitty on May 02, 2008, 08:46:15 am
No, but this thread probably should've been stickied long ao anyway.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: andrupchik on May 02, 2008, 11:26:33 am
You have to save the second jump until the last part. And the bump is well...not so good.
I did. It still doesn't work for me.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: andrupchik on May 02, 2008, 11:49:36 am
I FINALLY figured it out!! I've been wall jumping incorrectly the entire time. I've been letting go of the jump button and pressing it again for every wall jump, but I wasn't aware that you actually have to hold the jump button the entire time, only letting go when you want to perform the double jump (all you have to do is press a directional button while holding the jump button and he jumps off the wall automatically!). Jesus, this makes wall jumping so much easier. I actually assumed that the wall jumping was just like in Megaman X, so I've been doing it exactly like I've always done. I wonder if I've been wall-jumping incorrectly in that game as well...
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Supa on May 02, 2008, 06:20:02 pm
How in the world did you get pass the Kirby spike chase if you didn't know how to wall jump? o.0

: show
Btw, you have to jump up onto the first yellow stripe, jump to second, jump to the right, PULL BACK by holding left the second you leap off the second wall. Try to stick to the top of the first wall then jump to the second, if you are high enough, you will make it to the third and it's pretty straightforward from there. Thus, you will save your second jump and use it at the appropriate time. Here's a video to show what I mean:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJ7VnP-kjr8

I think it is the fourth item shown in the video, at 2:27.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: andrupchik on May 04, 2008, 11:40:51 am
I told you how, I've been pressing the jump button and letting it go every time I wall jump. I got through the rest of the game just fine without using that extra double jump on all the wall jump areas.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: desktopdoodlz on May 05, 2008, 10:44:19 pm
ive gotten all of the 6 secret items on medium mode,... but they dont show up in the room that theyre supposed to... can someone tell me what i did wrong?..,...if i did something wrong...
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Supa on May 05, 2008, 11:38:56 pm
Check if all 6 item files are in the save folder.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: desktopdoodlz on May 05, 2008, 11:40:50 pm
...yupp, all 6 of em,.... if i have to get them again,... imma be PISSED OFF!!!,...
here, send me yours and ill see if its just my corrupted files (ive already earned them,... so its not cheating)
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Supa on May 05, 2008, 11:53:26 pm
Start a new game (any difficulty), go to the room, and see if it shows up.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: desktopdoodlz on May 05, 2008, 11:57:30 pm
EDIT:
nope,.. no luck
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Supa on May 06, 2008, 12:24:10 am
Strange... what is the file extension's abbreviation on the item files?
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: desktopdoodlz on May 06, 2008, 01:46:04 am
...ummm, its  .save 
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Supa on May 06, 2008, 02:26:38 am
Give me the file name of one of your items.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: desktopdoodlz on May 06, 2008, 02:29:04 am
item1-f765.save

ill send it to you
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Supa on May 06, 2008, 03:45:57 am
Try this.

Tell me when you've got it.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: desktopdoodlz on May 06, 2008, 03:47:47 am
nope... :(
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Supa on May 06, 2008, 04:03:00 am
Then something's wrong with your game.

Try downloading the latest version (http://iwbtg.webserver1.snip.net/iwbtgbeta(slomo).exe). (Download it anyways and rewrite the old exe.)
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: desktopdoodlz on May 06, 2008, 04:05:09 am
alright
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Kolhell on May 13, 2008, 12:11:17 pm
found a trick that makes picking up the metroid one a lot easier
: show
if youre fast enough you can run through the gap before the little dude comes out, and if you keep going you can trick the #2 gargoyle into moving left instead of right.  this makes it pretty easy to shoot and get back to the platform, and if you do it correctly you will have a fraction of a second to shoot the spiny dude on the ledge before crashing into him.  you have to get lucky and freeze the gargoyle with its wings out to be able to get on top of him, but this allows you to make it across the gap by using only gargoyles number 2 and 3.


on a side note... anyone else notice that running full speed through the game without thinking tends to result in a lot of the tricky timings to just work out?  lol...
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: desktopdoodlz on May 13, 2008, 06:59:00 pm
on a side note... anyone else notice that running full speed through the game without thinking tends to result in a lot of the tricky timings to just work out?  lol...

YESSSSSS! ! ! ! ! !
after about... 3000 deaths, i just ran full speed and did the whole Ghosts n' Goblins levels without dying, i did the screen before Mecha Birdo in ONE TRY! ! ! !
...but dont just run through the first time, find out all the tricks,... and THEN run through
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Supa on May 13, 2008, 07:16:44 pm
Yeah uhm, I'd rather go carefully  :P You just can't afford dying on V. Hard.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: ybbald on May 15, 2008, 11:38:32 am
For the couch item, I can't get started on the cables. My single jump can barely reach the first cable and then if I manage to jump off of it, I can never reach the second one high enough to jump off of it.
Title: secret items?
Post by: AMATURE on May 24, 2008, 11:26:05 am
really since secret items are so hard to get in spike filled rooms,arent they some sort of power up?
Title: Re: secret items?
Post by: Rad on May 24, 2008, 11:38:09 am
they dont do anything yet.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: desktopdoodlz on May 24, 2008, 02:58:15 pm
keyword being yet
*cringes at the thought of what kayin will do*
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: ybbald on May 24, 2008, 04:08:22 pm
keyword being yet
*cringes at the thought of what kayin will do*
I bet you need to get to some special assembly room that you have to go through hell to get to.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: TheGuydude69 on May 25, 2008, 03:50:41 am
Don't give the man ideas!   >:(
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: desktopdoodlz on May 25, 2008, 04:36:12 am
Don't give the man ideas!   >:(
ARE YOU KIDDING!?, kayin probably has like some elite group of people that hate the world around them giving him ideas on how to make us suffer...
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: ybbald on May 25, 2008, 09:53:26 am
Don't give the man ideas!   >:(
ARE YOU KIDDING!?, kayin probably has like some elite group of people that hate the world around them giving him ideas on how to make us suffer...
*looks at dsk*
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: ybbald on May 27, 2008, 02:35:37 pm
For the third tiem, I can't come back on at the top of the first cable to bounce up to the second and third liek oyu guys show. But I've found I can do it by bouncing back and ofrce repeatedly, slowly moving up like this:
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/Ybbald/item3.png
The pic shows me bouncing off 2 times before goign up to the 3 cable, but I usually have to do it 5-6 times.
Just thought I
d spot this in case anyone else has this same problem
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: desktopdoodlz on May 29, 2008, 09:15:43 pm
STOP DOUBLE POSTING YBBALD!
lol, i did that to,... but i jumped of the first one like... 10 times, im always to scared to go after 3 times...
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: ybbald on May 29, 2008, 09:21:10 pm
STOP DOUBLE POSTING YBBALD!
lol, i did that to,... but i jumped of the first one like... 10 times, im always to scared to go after 3 times...
IF there is a time difference of 2 days, it's not double posting. If I were to edit that in, no one would know there was something new because the thread was not bumped.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: desktopdoodlz on May 29, 2008, 09:24:05 pm
true...
but now that its been succesfully bumped up shouldnt you edit it now before dsk pwns your ass?
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: dsk on May 30, 2008, 05:47:52 am
STOP DOUBLE POSTING YBBALD!
lol, i did that to,... but i jumped of the first one like... 10 times, im always to scared to go after 3 times...
IF there is a time difference of 2 days, it's not double posting. If I were to edit that in, no one would know there was something new because the thread was not bumped.
Actually, the bumping thing is only valid if the thread is in the second page, and if you have something really important to add. Seeing this thread as a sticky, there's no need to bump it.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: ybbald on May 30, 2008, 11:26:40 am
Actually, the bumping thing is only valid if the thread is in the second page, and if you have something really important to add. Seeing this thread as a sticky, there's no need to bump it.
But people still wouldn't know there was a new post unless you made a new post.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Dagnarok on May 30, 2008, 11:32:24 am
Only if the edited post wasn't the most recent post made (on that thread).  If it was, the word "new" would display beside the title of the thread in the board (only).  So the only way you wouldn't see it is if you either:

1) Never went back to the board
2) Managed to not see the "new" icon/button while in the board

I believe that if someone else posts after though, the "new" icon/button takes you to that person's post and goes past yours completely.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: dsk on May 30, 2008, 11:58:10 am
Ok, back on topic now. Sticky threads don't need bumping.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Mars on June 01, 2008, 02:49:55 pm
Ok, so Im in the Game Over screen. Im not quite sure what to do now. The item isnt there and I tried everything I could (which isnt much when you can only jump and shoot)

EDIT: Theres a new version, thats my problem. Never mind.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Rad on June 01, 2008, 05:44:36 pm
goodman!
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: IcedInferno on June 03, 2008, 07:01:43 pm
I FINALLY figured it out!! I've been wall jumping incorrectly the entire time. I've been letting go of the jump button and pressing it again for every wall jump, but I wasn't aware that you actually have to hold the jump button the entire time, only letting go when you want to perform the double jump (all you have to do is press a directional button while holding the jump button and he jumps off the wall automatically!). Jesus, this makes wall jumping so much easier. I actually assumed that the wall jumping was just like in Megaman X, so I've been doing it exactly like I've always done. I wonder if I've been wall-jumping incorrectly in that game as well...

MOST helpful post on the forums right there.  I had gotten through the kirby chase without knowing this, I'd gotten everywhere else, I was just pressing down the jump button RIGHT before I had to walljump!  It took me forever to figure out why the game was robbing me of my second jump, but I finally got the secret item!  :) :D :)
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Nukasa on June 12, 2008, 08:28:06 pm
How do I really get to the tower of The Guy again after I've already beat him? I figured I wouldn't have to repeat a boss fight, but trying to get to the last item, I'm ending up having to fight Dragon Force again. Is there a faster way to get there so I can collect up the item and be done with this nightmare? :kid:
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: dsk on June 12, 2008, 09:05:50 pm
The Guy portrait in RoDT teleports you to the palace entrance.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Nukasa on June 12, 2008, 09:25:13 pm
RRoD? Not sure what that is.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Kitty on June 12, 2008, 10:05:54 pm
I think he was trying to abbreviate the Room of Divine Transportation.
And he's wrong. Yes, you have to beat the Dragon and then nearly all of the Guy's palace to get to that item.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: ybbald on June 13, 2008, 12:10:17 am
I think he was trying to abbreviate the Room of Divine Transportation.
And he's wrong. Yes, you have to beat the Dragon and then nearly all of the Guy's palace to get to that item.
*nods*
RODT Guy warp takes you to the top of the final tower
Take the dracula warp. Then you just have to beat the mine cart ride, the dragon and most of the castle again.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Kitty on June 13, 2008, 12:14:14 am
He's already at the dragon, ybbald.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: ybbald on June 13, 2008, 12:38:58 am
He's already at the dragon, ybbald.
but, but... the minecart ride is FUN! He should do it again just for fun
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: desktopdoodlz on June 13, 2008, 10:43:44 pm
FUN!?!?!!?,...
that hell hole is your idea of fun!?,... lol, jokes, its acctualy easy after youve done it once
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Dudlet on June 19, 2008, 06:42:50 am
Ive gotten all secret items but what are they suposed to be.To make a bigger wep. or just to showoff that you have gotten all secret items?
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Purple_Shrimp on June 19, 2008, 07:04:09 am
The latter.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: hakfu on July 02, 2008, 04:21:46 am
ARGHHHHHHHHHH

I read from the forums where the secret items are and watched a video from youtube. Ive gotten 4 items now, but after a LOOONG session of trying to survive the destroying thing that follows you, then make the spikes fall down to get the next screen where the item is. I can't go there! (No im not saving, and there is no wall infront of me, I just can't go thru the edge of the screen) Arghh, ive spent 1h getting there, and now it all is wasted. Why oh why are you so cruel Kayin...

Whats the matter with this thing?
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Dagnarok on July 02, 2008, 09:32:19 am
lol Kirby claims another victim. :P

You have the newest version, right?
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Zaraki on July 03, 2008, 02:25:59 am
He's already at the dragon, ybbald.
but, but... the minecart ride is FUN! He should do it again just for fun
I totally agree with Tran!! I think that Minecart Ride is the best part of the whole game!
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Yule on July 03, 2008, 10:16:29 pm
Nah, gotta give it to the Kirby area, its unique.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Dagnarok on July 03, 2008, 10:19:30 pm
Kirby kills more than ducks ever will!!

:P
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Yule on July 03, 2008, 10:20:56 pm
Kirby kills more than ducks ever will!!

:P
Thats a little random even for the topic.
Wtf Rag. :P
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Dagnarok on July 03, 2008, 10:28:47 pm
Umm... you know... the minecart music... DUCKtales?

Actually I should point out that it had nothing to do with the topic itself. XD
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Yule on July 03, 2008, 10:35:08 pm
I know that, just the way it was presented.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Dagnarok on July 03, 2008, 10:39:13 pm
lol.  The weirder the better. ;p
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Yule on July 03, 2008, 10:47:06 pm
Just like human sacrifice.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: ybbald on July 11, 2008, 08:25:04 pm
Just like human sacrifice.
We can sacrifice the kid. It's not like a few extra deaths will hurt him.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: desktopdoodlz on July 11, 2008, 11:29:26 pm
the blood on our hands is the wine, we offer a sacrifice...


OOHH, Retarded idea coming along...

kayin, i heard you like tool... dont you think it would be awesome to have various rock songs as BGM?!, id love to listen to Schism while playing iwbtg......



(and the song at the begining of this was not a tool song)
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: hakfu on July 13, 2008, 02:29:22 am
lol Kirby claims another victim. :P

You have the newest version, right?

Umm, playing with 1.0? Thought that the newer version doesn't have secret items at all?

Edit;  I mean, I have all the other secret items, all bosses down, including The (former) Guy
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: SilentLoner on July 13, 2008, 12:42:12 pm
The newest version is Ver 1.0.0 Revision B2.4. You should be able to get all of the secret items in that version.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: desktopdoodlz on July 13, 2008, 12:45:29 pm
just download this one
http://rapidshare.com/files/124880765/iwbtgbeta_slomo_.exe.html (http://rapidshare.com/files/124880765/iwbtgbeta_slomo_.exe.html)
thats the version 1.0.0
slomo
it should have all the secret items
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Elman on July 28, 2008, 03:06:30 am
I'm stuck in the 2nd Secret Item area. Any tips would help :P

I'll keep trying... I'm gonna dream of that stupid spike!
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Rad on July 28, 2008, 04:53:32 am
there's a secret item thread...
just what you should be looking for.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Elman on July 28, 2008, 10:42:41 am
Uh... Isn't it this topic? Or did I post it somewhere else?

Anyway, I can barely make the first jump :( Is there any trick to do it? Or you just have to double jump in the very highest pixel of your jumping trajectory? >_< I wish I could save up there...

EDIT: Nevermind... I managed to save there by jumping, shooting and then double jumping back there :P Risky, but it worked :D
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: zebdal on July 28, 2008, 10:44:35 am
what is the 2nd item area.
they don't have precise numbers.
what is the item you want?
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Elman on July 28, 2008, 03:23:07 pm
what is the 2nd item area.
they don't have precise numbers.
what is the item you want?

They have numbers according to the first post, don't they?

Anyway, I meant the G&G one. After I managed to teleport to the entrance, it just took some practice. I got it ^^
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: thewhiterider on July 29, 2008, 11:37:14 pm
does anything cool happen when I get all or one of these items? I found one and am considering going for it, but it looks freaking hard. Like even for IWBTG standards. Or would it be better to beat the game and come back later and get them?
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: SilentLoner on July 29, 2008, 11:45:01 pm
As of now, no. I think Kayin has mentioned that they will unlock something in the next version of the game, though it may be a while before that comes out.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: SuperLuigi on August 20, 2008, 11:15:54 am
I got secret item #1. Now, how do I use it?
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Dagnarok on August 20, 2008, 11:16:39 am
You don't?

And likely won't for some time, until Kayin starts up on IWBTG again.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Zaraki on August 23, 2008, 01:17:51 pm
You don't?

And likely won't for some time, until Kayin starts up on IWBTG again.
Is there any offical picture what will the gun look like?
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: dsk on August 23, 2008, 01:45:01 pm
How do you know it's a gun, and no.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Koppis on August 23, 2008, 04:05:41 pm
Thare was a thread about it.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Zaraki on August 27, 2008, 12:53:39 am
ThEre was a thread about it.
Yup. There was actually some relly good pics of it, maybe even the real one, we need Kayin to answer this.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Koppis on August 28, 2008, 02:18:13 pm
I don't think he will really...
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: MenosTorpe on October 14, 2008, 01:56:47 pm
I must admit to being a coward and/or cretin. I'm here because I can't get Item #3.

The solution obviously seems to be single jumping to the first platform, getting to the next highest, then back to the first to get enough height for the rest of it (thus keeping my double jump for the long stretch). But for some reason I seem to lose my jump whenever I touch the first platform a second time. For a while I thought I was accidentally hitting jump twice somewhere, but I don't think I am.

Is my method itself wrong? Has anyone else had similar trouble with this?
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Koppis on October 14, 2008, 02:03:11 pm
No, it should work like that.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Loustien on October 19, 2008, 11:03:44 pm
I must admit to being a coward and/or cretin. I'm here because I can't get Item #3.

The solution obviously seems to be single jumping to the first platform, getting to the next highest, then back to the first to get enough height for the rest of it (thus keeping my double jump for the long stretch). But for some reason I seem to lose my jump whenever I touch the first platform a second time. For a while I thought I was accidentally hitting jump twice somewhere, but I don't think I am.

Is my method itself wrong? Has anyone else had similar trouble with this?

Been having that problem for a couple of days. Stumbled upon the solution myself. For me, I had to hold the spacebar down untill the doublejump. This does change up your jumping method, but for me it works. So basicly after your jump, you dont let go of the spacebar, and go away from the wall to jump, like on the first platform, go left to jump left, then go right to get onto the third and so on. Minijoygasm as I touched that platform.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Seas of Cheese on October 27, 2008, 07:22:42 pm
Okay, I finally beat this game for the first time.  Now I want to go through and get the 6 items.  However, I can't seem to find a way to get back into the Metroid section.

Is there any way to get back to that area?  If I start a new game and get the Metroid item without saving and then hit Q, will that work?
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Yule on October 27, 2008, 07:23:36 pm
The item saves across still I think.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Dagnarok on October 27, 2008, 07:26:17 pm
That they do.
Title: Secret item help
Post by: Yum! Universe on November 02, 2008, 11:24:25 pm
Is there some where that I can get the files for the hidden items. I got a new computer and I can't find my secret item files. I really don't want to go through that hell again, so can someone help me?
Title: Re: Secret item help
Post by: ybbald on November 02, 2008, 11:35:34 pm
http://kayin.pyoko.org/iwbtg/forums/index.php?topic=625.0
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Yum! Universe on November 10, 2008, 05:20:32 pm
That didn't really answer my question.  :-\
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: ybbald on November 10, 2008, 07:37:13 pm
Here's the first four. You can only post 4 attachments per post so post again so I won't double post. Dsk's so uptight he'd probably yell at me even if I had a good reason to double post.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: dsk on November 10, 2008, 07:49:40 pm
I won't, for a good reason.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: ybbald on November 10, 2008, 08:08:45 pm
The world! It is ending!
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: dsk on November 10, 2008, 08:15:41 pm
See what I did there?
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: ybbald on November 10, 2008, 08:40:46 pm
Doomed us all to the apocalypse?
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: dsk on November 10, 2008, 09:11:33 pm
I posted, so your next post wouldn't be a double.

On topic now.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: NIN_NIN on November 25, 2008, 12:49:05 am
I have a dumb question, what are these things used for anyway? Probably nothing at the moment, but just curious.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Arkhanno on November 25, 2008, 12:50:14 am
Learn how to use the search function.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: desktopdoodlz on November 25, 2008, 10:21:17 pm
damn you all fail, kayin has better things to do....
the secret items have no purpose YET...

and i doubt they ever will have a use
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Lion on January 16, 2009, 05:31:32 pm
I don't think they will ever have a purpose. Didn't Kayin say he was done working on this game?
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: SilentLoner on January 16, 2009, 05:42:14 pm
A while back, he said that he wants to eventually continue working on IWBTG:

Nah, eventually I wanna fix up IWBTG a bit and fix some of the problems involved with upgrading it to a newer version of MMF2. But this is not a priority and I have to wait for the new version to come out. Then I actually have to care enough. So one day, if all goes right, there will be a new version with new content involving the items and the game will be stable(r) and not run (quite as much) like crap.

I think he also mentioned in another post that he probably won't continue working on IWBTG until he's finished with his latest project, though.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Lion on January 16, 2009, 05:44:23 pm
Oh, alright, I thought I had read a post that said he was done with it.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: BillyTheBanana on February 02, 2009, 07:41:00 am
Not sure if this has already been suggested, but do we know for sure that there are only six items? Seems like there's enough room on the right of that platform to fit a narrow seventh.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: SilentLoner on February 02, 2009, 12:44:54 pm
I'm pretty sure Kayin himself said that there were only six.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: I wanna stay the kid on February 05, 2009, 06:41:02 am
well here i am in the game over room... BUT THERE IS NO ITEM?????
is this a bug or do i have to beat the game for the secret items?
thx for any help
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Arkhanno on February 05, 2009, 09:41:07 am
I did the same thing. You jumped into the item as you went into the room. Go check the Room of Divine Transportation to see the item.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: I wanna stay the kid on February 05, 2009, 11:04:05 am
I already tried but the item isnt there
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Arkhanno on February 05, 2009, 11:48:21 am
Well, make sure that you have the latest version of the game, then start a second file (You don't have to keep it) and go to the secret item and try to get it again. The secret items are saved in a separate save file, so they are universal for your game.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: I wanna stay the kid on February 05, 2009, 12:14:21 pm
well i think i have the newest version because i downloaded it two weeks ago
i tried it with all 3 slots (2 on medium 1 on hard) but still there is just nothing
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: dsk on February 05, 2009, 12:31:51 pm
The secret items are saved in a separate save file, so they are universal for your game.
Have you tried, you know, READING?
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: KoNr on February 17, 2009, 11:33:53 pm
ok so i finally got all the secret items, and god dammit Kayin, you sure made me mad when i fell for the falling blocks in Master Higgins Room lol. what a suprise
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: thekillagorilla on March 02, 2009, 04:23:36 pm
I got all 6 items, AND THEY DONT DO ANYTHING

Nice Challange by the way
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Cripple on March 30, 2009, 10:06:45 pm
In the ghouls n goblins area, is there a certain method used to jump up past the moon? I seem to not be able to jump high enough just barely...
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: OLDGREG on March 30, 2009, 10:12:34 pm
its just trial and error it usually takes me around 20 tries to get up there, and then if you jump down shoot and then jump up quick you can save from up there also
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: Cripple on March 30, 2009, 10:36:03 pm
Alright, I managed to make it 4 or 5 times, only to die on the next map and have to do it over... So I tried to hop over, shoot the save, and land back on the ledge... Something screwed up and now when I load my save, I'm falling below the screen towards mecha birdo... Lol, through the spike maze of hell again... Oh well, I'll get it sooner or later.  :kid:
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: The Halfway Kid on April 25, 2009, 08:40:50 pm
I realy think that kayin should make an update with the game and make it so that if you do have all the items you get like a bonus boss or changeble character, or somthing like that...no offense Kayin, or anybody else...just my opinion
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: da kid on June 20, 2009, 11:26:59 am
thanks dude i was havin touble with the couch jumping secret item!
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: da kid on June 20, 2009, 03:24:19 pm
now ive got all 6 they where quite easy but not hard it took me over 3-4 days for me the torin was the hardest for me then i managed to get it then i tryed going for the graveyard one it too was a bit hard but it took over 30-55 trys but not torture then i wanted to go for the kirby area witch was seriously easy as pie then i went for the first level one i even decided to get this one on impossible witch i did then i went for the giy industries one the hardest for me personally then i went for the last one on the guys fortress not onna lie i cheated on that secret item by useing a great classic freind of mine breakout.

 ;D
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: liquidCorgster on June 21, 2009, 10:14:13 am
I like how da kid made this thread again.

. . .
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: da kid on June 21, 2009, 10:19:45 am
yeah well i just a video of all this so people understand where everthing is.
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: OLDGREG on July 03, 2009, 07:25:14 pm
Now ive got all 6, they were quite easy and not that hard. It took me over 3-4 days. For me the torin was the hardest, but then after a lot of tries i managed to get it. Then I tried going for the graveyard one, it was also a bit hard and it took over 30-55 tries, but it wasn't torture. Then i wanted to go for the kirby area which was seriously easy as pie. Then i went for the first level one, I even decided to get this one on impossible (which i did). Then i went for the guy industries one, the hardest for me personally, then i went for the last one on the guys fortress. I'm not gonna lie i cheated on that secret item by using a great classic freind of mine's breakout.

 ;D

ok fixed his comment because I had no idea what the fuck he said
Title: Re: Secret items!
Post by: MinionPig32 on April 14, 2013, 12:20:10 pm
I haven't the items of metroid and after snake room. How i can freeze the enemies in order? And i can't make the jump in the final couch.