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Crap! / Re: Which ponies are morally superior?
« on: December 12, 2011, 03:45:36 am »
You don't post on the forum at all unless it involves something you're particularly interested in. It clearly has nothing to do with professionalism.
I call BS on that. Whenever a fiasco comes up involving a moderator (potentially) overstepping their bounds, you're nowhere to be found in the discussion.
If the topic is unlikely to interest me, I do not click on it.  Therefore, I am only aware of issues that occur in topics which may interest me.  Additionally, I have been known to not even look at the forum for months at a time.
Yes, clearly, you have me all figured out.

Crap! / Re: Which ponies are morally superior?
« on: December 12, 2011, 02:56:30 am »
Also, for every other MLP thread that gets made, I will replace one image in the actual MLP thread with a picture of a dead pony.
This was you posting that, yes?
If you interpreted me as serious, you have two issues: one, you're far too defensive about your interests, and two, you don't understand that this forum is generally comprised of jokes. Would I have actually done it? Probably not, except possibly once or twice for comedic value. It's not as if I'm trying to maliciously destroy your pony thread, I was merely attempting to make humor. If you don't think jokes are appropriate, you should probably take a good, long look at how seriously you're taking comments about replacing images in a thread on an online forum.
The crap forum is a place for general purpose humour such as lighthearted abuse of powers.  General Discussions is not.  The MLP thread is currently located in General Discussions.  This distinction is important.

As for me being too defensive about my interests?  I'd react the same way if you said it about the Minecraft thread- and I hate Minecraft.  This is about professionalism.

Crap! / Re: Which ponies are morally superior?
« on: December 12, 2011, 12:22:07 am »
We already have topics for many of the things you mentioned: humorous pictures, music, videos. Why does each of those things need to have a specific MLP version?
How about the fact everyone seems to go off their nut if anything pony related is seen outside of the MLP thread?

*talk about episode discussion sizes*
The point of a separate thread for actual episode discussion clearly is not immediately apparent.
The reason is this:
No one knows how to actually use spoiler tags correctly.  Nor when its appropriate to stop using them.

The final two divisions you suggest are comics and fanfiction. Comics are relatively few of the posts in the MLP thread, and I don't see any comic-related posts in the last six pages of the thread.
Thread consists of 1185 posts.  Try finding all posts related to comics.
Its not easy, is it?

I'm really not sure why quartiles are relevant. The determination of whether MLP has enough content to be its own subforum has nothing at all to do with how big it is compared to other threads; it has to do with absolute standards of "is it so large and diverse that the thread is too chaotic to understand?" and/or "is it big enough to garner its own subforum?" Neither of those things have anything to do with comparing its size to other topics.
It has a lot to do with comparing it to other topics, actually.  Comparing it to other topics (Which, for the most part, are easy to understand) it is over 16 times bigger than what you'd reasonably expect.
That indicates there is something fundamentally wrong going on here.  The same is true about the Minecraft thread.
Being that it is 16 times bigger, you could, quite rightly, assume that it is actually composed of 16 much smaller threads.
In reality, it may be more than that.  It may be less than that.  But its a damn good guess.

The direct insult, too, is really not necessary and just makes you appear childish and unable to support an argument with facts. If you're arguing that I'm trying to display my power rather than keep order, that's a different argument...and one you would find impossible to support, given that there's no evidence for it.
It was not an insult; It was an observation.
Also, for every other MLP thread that gets made, I will replace one image in the actual MLP thread with a picture of a dead pony.
This was you posting that, yes?

The point of threads is not "There is too much discussion going on"; the point of them is "There has been too much discussion over time, it is impossible to sanely find anything".  The point of the subforum is that most people get really pissy if they see even one more pony related thread (Case in point: THIS FUCKING THREAD), so by putting them in their own subforum they would only ever see one pony related thing: the subforum itself.  This is known as a compromise.

The simple fact is, to counter my post you actually had to go into the thread and look back at least six pages.
Which is exactly my point.
You had to exhaustively scan through a chunk of the thread, and you stopped when you couldn't be bothered anymore.

Laugh = Lose is much bigger, though doesn't have its own subforum.
Laugh = lose is literally one topic: You post pictures, people try not to laugh at them.  It cannot be split any more than it already is.

Minecraft is behind about 20 pages, but still is much bigger than your "F'ing huge" thread status, though it doesn't have its own subforum.

Why should My Little Pony? Either give Minecraft its own as well as My Little Pony, or neither. I say neither because although I LOVE Minecraft, it wouldn't be fair still. Besides, what happens when its popularity dies off? Do we keep the subforum? What about My Lame Pony? Do we keep that subforum when its popularity dies off?
I never said the Minecraft topic shouldn't be split.  In fact I believe it should, for the very same reasons I've already stated.  Its why I was using it as an example earlier, even if I did not outright state this.
As to what to do with the subforums later, you could always add a 'vault' category to the main page and move it and any other unused subforums there.  Then people can just cascade the list so they never see any of the unused sections again.
Or you could add [MLP] to the topic of all threads and then just merge it back in to GD.

Crap! / Re: Which ponies are morally superior?
« on: December 11, 2011, 10:57:55 pm »
We could make a subforum for a lot of things. That doesn't mean we should.
I just took a sample of data from the first three pages of GD and worked some statistics on it.
Lets go with Quartiles.
In terms of post count, we have Q1 = 6, Median = 16, Q3 = 32, and the Interquartile range = 26.
Thus, any thread with more than 71 posts (32  + 1.5 * 26) should be considered F'ing huge.
...Which leads on to my main point: The MLP thread is 16 times larger than the "F'ing huge" cutoff.

As it stands, off the top of my head, I believe it could be split into a humorous picture thread, a comic thread, a music thread, a video thread, a fanfiction thread, and a thread for discussion of each episode of season 2 (which is ten -and counting-).

Forcing content which is only loosely related into the one thread inevitably just turns the thread into a disorganised mess; impossible to find any relevant information in any sane manner.
The job of a moderator is not to wave their penis around; It is to maintain order.  You have failed in this regard.

Crap! / Re: Which ponies are morally superior?
« on: December 11, 2011, 09:15:14 pm »
If you need administrators to forcibly stop you from looking at something you don't want to see, frankly, you have problems.
Go seek help.

Crap! / Re: Which ponies are morally superior?
« on: December 11, 2011, 08:49:46 pm »
Would it be okay if I made five different Minecraft threads each based on one thing I wanted to talk about?
Actually yes, depending on the circumstances.  Forums are meant as a way of categorizing on a high level, threads are meant to be used for categorizing at a low level.  You would not want to talk about Bukkit, Canary, or known griefers in a thread where everyone else is talking about the latest client update.
It bugs the hell out of the people who don't want to hear about it, and it bugs the hell out of the people who do want to hear about it when they have to wade through posts unrelated to Bukkit/Canary/whatever.
Don't like Minecraft?  Don't click on threads with Minecraft in the topic.
A lot of minecraft threads turning up all over the place?  Make a Minecraft subforum.

Replace Minecraft with Ponies for the exact same argument.

So now the question I really have to ask is this:
All of you who hate MLP, why are you clicking on threads which are quite clearly going to be MLP related?

Crap! / Re: I'm quite upset about the Virginia Tech shooting
« on: December 11, 2011, 09:26:47 am »
Another one?  VT must have some serious issues.

« on: December 11, 2011, 09:25:03 am »
You... Ran out of spoons?  Do you throw them away after using them or something?

Otherwise, you have to pay 10 cents for each bag they give you, and the bags are complete shit that tear apart instantly and those bastards know it.
Over here, we pay 15c and get heavy duty (reusable) plastic bags that I couldn't break if I tried.  I have used them to carry 6kg of crap at one point.  In the one bag.

Crap! / Re: Correlation does not indicate cause
« on: December 10, 2011, 07:19:34 am »
Jesus caused the holocaust
...I am so going to use that one next chance I get.

Crap! / Re: How do you change your username?
« on: December 09, 2011, 08:37:45 am »

General Discussion! / Re: My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic
« on: December 09, 2011, 07:52:22 am »
: So this thing turned up on EqD • show

My head nearly fell off when I saw that, and I just had to do a bit of researching on it.
Past Sins is a 22 chapter long, 553 page My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic fanfiction.

Crap! / Re: How do you change your username?
« on: December 09, 2011, 07:45:16 am »
Profile -> Account Related Settings -> Name

Game Design! / Re: Quick Questions on Game Design
« on: December 08, 2011, 09:46:11 am »
But anyway, I'd highly suggest making your own engine. If you aren't capable of doing that, you probably won't end up with a game that anyone wants to pay money for anyway.
Because nothing good ever came out of using other people's engines, amirite?

Crap! / Re: 'Tis my Birthday
« on: December 08, 2011, 06:49:52 am »

General Discussion! / Re: My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic
« on: December 03, 2011, 06:58:23 pm »
I could barely contain my laughter at the two ponies who's heads were literally pointing straight up (Like, 90 degrees).  They were pretty much the first thing in view of the first scene with Canterlot's ponies in it.

Also we got some Octavia, if only briefly.
There was also a bit of BlueBlood during the song.  We also found out the names of two more Wonderbolts.

: Yeah, this one is pretty accurate. • show


: Yeah, thats kind of stupid, Rarity. • show

Lets also not forget saving the lives of three of the Wonderbolts.  And winning the Best Young Flier competition.
And how all six of them saved Equestria itself.  Twice.

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